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Boomer 12-30-2019 05:41 PM

Dear OP,

i hope you will get an MRI if you have not already had one.

Somewhere in this from-a-while-ago thread I wrote about the possibility that a synovial cyst could be causing your issue. Synovial cysts will not show up on an x-ray and can cause excruciating pain, compressing nerves to the point where even walking can become agonizing.

retiredguy123 12-30-2019 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1706053)
Dear OP,

i hope you will get an MRI if you have not already had one.

Somewhere in this from-a-while-ago thread I wrote about the possibility that a synovial cyst could be causing your issue. Synovial cysts will not show up on an x-ray and can cause excruciating pain, compressing nerves to the point where even walking can become agonizing.

I agree with the MRI. It will very likely show you what is causing the pain. A chiropractor will tell you to keep coming back again and again and keep charging you money. And, if you happen to get better, he will claim that he cured you, even though what really cured you was your own body and time, not the chiropractor. Just my opinion.

rjcataniajr 01-17-2020 03:23 PM

Chiropractor question:
 
CHIROPRACTOR QUESTION:

Need to see a chiropractor and went to see Compton to make an appointment. I had all the notes from MRI of lower back along with disk. They told me there is a $228 evaluation fee. I never heard of this before and neither did my insurance company , Florida Blue. Do all the chiropractors have this type of fee? Florida Blue agent said they and most other insurances only cover "manipulation".

Your thoughts?...and thank you

CFrance 01-17-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rjcataniajr (Post 1710385)
CHIROPRACTOR QUESTION:

Need to see a chiropractor and went to see Compton to make an appointment. I had all the notes from MRI of lower back along with disk. They told me there is a $228 evaluation fee. I never heard of this before and neither did my insurance company , Florida Blue. Do all the chiropractors have this type of fee? Florida Blue agent said they and most other insurances only cover "manipulation".

Your thoughts?...and thank you

I went to Dr. David Kuhn. He's got two offices, one on 301 in Wildwood and one off 441 somewhere. No consultation fee, and if you have an MRI he will set it all up with Medicare. He really helped my Sciatica after two physical therapists just made it worse.

VILLAGERBB 01-23-2020 04:20 PM

Update
 
I have been trying to figure out the best way to stay in alignment by not putting a lot of pressure on my back or feet when I stand and lie down in bed; This curse is exhausting but little by little I pray it will end soon. Thank you for your comments.


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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1706047)
Thanks for the update. I really hope you are able to get relief from your pain. But, mark me down as highly skeptical that a chiropractor can permanently cure any medical condition.


Boomer 01-28-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VILLAGERBB (Post 1712074)
I have been trying to figure out the best way to stay in alignment by not putting a lot of pressure on my back or feet when I stand and lie down in bed; This curse is exhausting but little by little I pray it will end soon. Thank you for your comments.

Hi VILLAGERBB,

Please forgive me if I appear to be badgering you by repeatedly saying to please get an MRI.

You have been in pain for a long time. A nerve compressed from the spine can cause excruciating pain that can feel like electric shocks, lightning bolts, bugs crawling, bees stinging, and can eventually make walking difficult and sleep impossible.

I once read something on a neuro’s website that said after a nerve has been compressed for a long time and the source of the compression is removed, it can take a long time for the nerve to find its way back to normal. It was compared to what can happen to carpet fibers when heavy furniture is moved. Sometimes those carpet marks bounce back, but sometimes not all the way or it takes a while.

True story:

One day, in — dare I say it — Costco — a conversation was overheard. A man was saying to another man, “Yeah. I FINALLY got an MRI and found there was a cyst in my spine pressing on my sciatic nerve.”

I have known of others, too, who ended up with a synovial cyst. I am not anything medical, but as I understand these cysts, they are made of synovial fluid that hardens. Not sure, but it might come from the back pouring out extra synovial fluid, trying to make a better cushion as we get shorter with age. (I don’t know for sure, just a theory.) Sometimes the cyst can be aspirated, but that does not always work, especially when it has had time to turn into what is basically a rock. The surgery to remove them can be done out-patient through a tiny incision. Of course, anything near the spinal cord comes with risk, as does any surgery. It’s the old “Risk vs. Benefit” thing.

I hope you will find out the source of your sciatic pain so you can then decide how to proceed, based on an actual diagnosis of the root of the cause of your pain.

I wish you well.

Sincerely,
Bossy Boomer

retiredguy123 01-28-2020 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1713587)
Hi VILLAGERBB,

Please forgive me if I appear to be badgering you by repeatedly saying to please get an MRI.

You have been in pain for a long time. A nerve compressed from the spine can cause excruciating pain that can feel like electric shocks, lightning bolts, bugs crawling, bees stinging, and can eventually make walking difficult and sleep impossible.

I once read something on a neuro’s website that said after a nerve has been compressed for a long time and the source of the compression is removed, it can take a long time for the nerve to find its way back to normal. It was compared to what can happen to carpet fibers when heavy furniture is moved. Sometimes those carpet marks bounce back, but sometimes not all the way or it takes a while.

True story:

One day, in — dare I say it — Costco — a conversation was overheard. A man was saying to another man, “Yeah. I FINALLY got an MRI and found there was a cyst in my spine pressing on my sciatic nerve.”

I have known of others, too, who ended up with a synovial cyst. I am not anything medical, but as I understand these cysts, they are made of synovial fluid that hardens. Not sure, but it might come from the spinal discs trying to make a better cushion as we get shorter with age. (I don’t know for sure, just a theory. Sometimes the cyst can be aspirated, but that does not always work, especially when it has had time to turn into what is basically a rock. The surgery to remove them can be done out-patient through a tiny incision. Of course, anything near the spinal cord comes with risk, as does any surgery. It’s the old “Risk vs. Benefit” thing.

I hope you will find out the source of your sciatic pain so you can then decide how to proceed, based on an actual diagnosis of the root of the cause of your pain.

I wish you well.

Sincerely,
Bossy Boomer

I agree. OP, you need a real medical doctor to diagnose your condition. If you actually have sciatica, an MRI will show you what is causing your pain. A chiropractor cannot cure sciatica.

rjn5656 01-29-2020 07:31 AM

Chiroproctor up north helped me immensely.

CFrance 01-29-2020 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjn5656 (Post 1713701)
Chiroproctor up north helped me immensely.

Me too, after two physical therapists made it worse.


There are good & bad chiros just as there are good and bad doctors. Dr. David Kuhn is one of the good ones.

VILLAGERBB 01-30-2020 04:28 PM

To those who recommend an MRI...I will mention it when I see my Primary Care Dr. in March. Her PA diagnosed me and then had two other medical consultants in the room at the time they determined Plantar Faciitis and Sciatica. I've since called to update her regarding my painful condition but the only thing she recommended was muscle relaxers/tylenol/ibuprofen. I don't want to walk around like a zombie. Folks have recovered from worse (I know) so I am hopeful I will do the same and help others too- SOON!

CFrance 01-30-2020 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VILLAGERBB (Post 1714113)
To those who recommend an MRI...I will mention it when I see my Primary Care Dr. in March. Her PA diagnosed me and then had two other medical consultants in the room at the time they determined Plantar Faciitis and Sciatica. I've since called to update her regarding my painful condition but the only thing she recommended was muscle relaxers/tylenol/ibuprofen. I don't want to walk around like a zombie. Folks have recovered from worse (I know) so I am hopeful I will do the same and help others too- SOON!

I found my PCP to be useless in terms of my sciatica. Same thing--attack the symptoms and not the cause. I finally asked for an MRI. The radiologist who read it said Oh, nothing out of order. I got it on a cd & took it to a chiro, who read it, immediately found the problem and showed it to me on the screen. I have no faith in Lake Imaging--won't even go there for my mamo.


I took the cd to Dr. Kuhn (did not care for the first chiro), and the rest is history--or should I say pain free.

Boomer 02-01-2020 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1713587)
Hi VILLAGERBB,

Please forgive me if I appear to be badgering you by repeatedly saying to please get an MRI.

You have been in pain for a long time. A nerve compressed from the spine can cause excruciating pain that can feel like electric shocks, lightning bolts, bugs crawling, bees stinging, and can eventually make walking difficult and sleep impossible.

I once read something on a neuro’s website that said after a nerve has been compressed for a long time and the source of the compression is removed, it can take a long time for the nerve to find its way back to normal. It was compared to what can happen to carpet fibers when heavy furniture is moved. Sometimes those carpet marks bounce back, but sometimes not all the way or it takes a while.

True story:

One day, in — dare I say it — Costco — a conversation was overheard. A man was saying to another man, “Yeah. I FINALLY got an MRI and found there was a cyst in my spine pressing on my sciatic nerve.”

I have known of others, too, who ended up with a synovial cyst. I am not anything medical, but as I understand these cysts, they are made of synovial fluid that hardens. Not sure, but it might come from the back pouring out extra synovial fluid, trying to make a better cushion as we get shorter with age. (I don’t know for sure, just a theory.) Sometimes the cyst can be aspirated, but that does not always work, especially when it has had time to turn into what is basically a rock. The surgery to remove them can be done out-patient through a tiny incision. Of course, anything near the spinal cord comes with risk, as does any surgery. It’s the old “Risk vs. Benefit” thing.

I hope you will find out the source of your sciatic pain so you can then decide how to proceed, based on an actual diagnosis of the root of the cause of your pain.

I wish you well.

Sincerely,
Bossy Boomer

Quote:

Originally Posted by VILLAGERBB (Post 1714113)
To those who recommend an MRI...I will mention it when I see my Primary Care Dr. in March. Her PA diagnosed me and then had two other medical consultants in the room at the time they determined Plantar Faciitis and Sciatica. I've since called to update her regarding my painful condition but the only thing she recommended was muscle relaxers/tylenol/ibuprofen. I don't want to walk around like a zombie. Folks have recovered from worse (I know) so I am hopeful I will do the same and help others too- SOON!


Aaaaaaaaugh! Oh, BB, I must finally confess. It was ME! ME! I! I was the one with the synovial cyst and had I not been an advocate for myself, I hate to think where I could have ended up.

(The conversation overheard in Costco as mentioned above was heard by Mr. Boomer. I wasn’t there —- probably a good thing because I would have needed to restrain myself to keep from interrupting the stranger’s conversation so we could commiserate. :) )

Anyway, I am fine now. Later I probably will regale you with the details, but for now, I have to stop procrastinating — and get the tax stuff together.

ColdNoMore 02-01-2020 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1714619)
Aaaaaaaaugh! Oh, BB, I must finally confess. It was ME!. ME! I! I was the one with the synovial cyst and had I not been an advocate for myself, I hate to think where I could have ended up.

(The conversation overheard in Costco as mentioned above was heard by Mr. Boomer. I wasn’t there —- probably a good thing because I would have needed to restrain myself to keep from interrupting the stranger’s conversation so we could commiserate. :) )

Anyway, I am fine now. Later I probably will regale you with the details, but for now, I have to stop procrastinating — and get the tax stuff together.


The underlined above, is actually the best advice anyone with medical issues, or has loved ones with issues...could ever receive. :thumbup:

Which is a great segue into why we are truly living in wondrous times, with the vast knowledge available...at our fingertips.

VILLAGERBB 02-03-2020 03:29 PM

Boomer...your support definitely gives me hope. I agree with you that an MRI seems to be the next step. Why are doctors so reluctant to recommend this procedure?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1714619)
Aaaaaaaaugh! Oh, BB, I must finally confess. It was ME!. ME! I! I was the one with the synovial cyst and had I not been an advocate for myself, I hate to think where I could have ended up.

(The conversation overheard in Costco as mentioned above was heard by Mr. Boomer. I wasn’t there —- probably a good thing because I would have needed to restrain myself to keep from interrupting the stranger’s conversation so we could commiserate. :) )

Anyway, I am fine now. Later I probably will regale you with the details, but for now, I have to stop procrastinating — and get the tax stuff together.


retiredguy123 02-03-2020 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VILLAGERBB (Post 1715269)
Boomer...your support definitely gives me hope. I agree with you that an MRI seems to be the next step. Why are doctors so reluctant to recommend this procedure?

Have you seen a neurologist or an orthopedic surgeon? I cannot imagine that they would not want you to have an MRI.

Boomer 02-08-2020 04:54 PM

Long story, but if it helps someone else, it is worth taking the time to tell it
 
.........

Debbeeg 02-08-2020 05:34 PM

Try Etheridge Chiropractic. Dr Ethedrige took mine completely away after years of pain & Botox injections!

VILLAGERBB 02-08-2020 07:37 PM

Thank you
 
Boomer...as always - thank you. I hope one day to start a group for folks who suffer with this condition. All the pain will be worth it if I can help others.


VillagerBB, I obviously have no way of knowing if your longtime pain is from the same thing. Also, letting someone cut near your spinal cord is a scary choice, I know. That was the personal choice I made when I felt like I had no other. Your situation might be completely different. I would never give medical advice. I am just sharing my personal story in case it might help. But, I hope you will choose to ask about an MRI. It seems like it is time to try to know the cause, not just the effect.[/QUOTE]

Boomer 02-08-2020 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=VILLAGERBB;1716564]Boomer...as always - thank you. I hope one day to start a group for folks who suffer with this condition. All the pain will be worth it if I can help others.


Mine was not a permanent condition. As my full-page saga said, I was fixable, still fixed. It has been almost 9 years since the neurosurgeon fixed me and I am ever thankful. Mine was not something I could fix myself. Had that thing occupied more space for even longer, who knows what could have happened.

This thread started many months ago. You have been in pain for a long time. I hope you can get more help from your doctor soon. I wish you well.

VILLAGERBB 02-17-2020 06:59 PM

Brad and bob - youtube physical therapists
 
These guys seem a bit goofy but they know what works!:thumbup: Proceed with caution.


Quote:

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1663145)
It may sound funny but I found these guys on you tube.
Absolute Best Exercise for Sciatica & Herniated Disc- McKenzie Approach. - YouTube

I had sciatica really bad and these guys really helped. When I do get the pain now it's very minor. When it used to get really bad I saw somewhere that you should sit on a tennis ball. You need to work the ball to find the right spot. That really worked well when driving. I feel your pain!
Steve


CandB 02-26-2020 02:34 PM

Tens unit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VILLAGERBB (Post 1663127)
What do you use to stop the nerve pain (especially in the calf muscle)? Pressing on the nerve helps a lot. Has anyone had any luck using a TENS pulse machine?

I have been using the Tens Unit for a couple of years now and for me it works great on those painful and stiff areas. Depending on your areas in need of stimulation to releve pain and stiffness you can check out the web for best pad placement. Happy to share my info on use if you want to cantact me

VILLAGERBB 03-31-2020 02:09 PM

Next stap
 
Went to my Primary Care Dr.; I had an x-ray (lower L3/L4) age degeneration...I am scheduled for a MRI in April...and bone density. Both will probably be rescheduled due to CV. In the meantime have been trying to align thru exercise. Back, hips and feet are daily sources of pain but thanks to BobandBrad I am learning so much about alignment and the possible cause of my pain. My thanks to all who continue to post on this forum!:)


Quote:

Originally Posted by VILLAGERBB (Post 1714113)
To those who recommend an MRI...I will mention it when I see my Primary Care Dr. in March. Her PA diagnosed me and then had two other medical consultants in the room at the time they determined Plantar Faciitis and Sciatica. I've since called to update her regarding my painful condition but the only thing she recommended was muscle relaxers/tylenol/ibuprofen. I don't want to walk around like a zombie. Folks have recovered from worse (I know) so I am hopeful I will do the same and help others too- SOON!


karostay 03-31-2020 02:33 PM

Sure it's not back related ?


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