Reality. There is a limited supply relative to demand.

Sadly, this post says to heck with everyone BUT me.

I would not want to be the one having to make these decisions.

?????what...that the ice cream is a full half gallon?

I disagree to a certain extent. My children have had COVID as well as my grandchildren and they have only missed a couple days of work and school. It was not even as serious to them as a flu would have been, had they caught that instead. This is a fallacy that working people have to be inoculated before going back to work. Even though, that is probably where half of the virus is transmitted. The other half by infection at home, in my opinion.
On the other hand, it does not matter where seniors become infected, IF they become infected they can DIE, period. I am not saying this because I am a senior. I originally had no intention of getting the shot, but changed my mind because of my wife. The young are shrugging it off unless they have serious underlying illnesses. Seniors are dying, regardless of illness due mostly to age related weakness.
So, I say take care of those that are filling the hospitals and let the youth cope with a couple days off of work or school.

Personally I go with Big Foot.

If you don’t like it go somewhere else.

Yes NACHOMAMA I totally agree with that statement. First responders, those in public view who serve us are first. We can wait, trouble is waiting is not a normal thing here

Because the 66 plus-year-old is more likely to become positive. The more people are positive, the more become hospitalized and overcrowd the hospitals. They run up huge bills that can NEVER be paid by the individuals. Plus some die. All this does is destabilize healthcare and its financial base. It eventually adversely affects all of society.

And what of the virus? With many positive over 65 cases, the virus has an increased environment to duplicate in - and mutate. Summary........there really is a case to be made for vaccinating the over 65 age group early. The same could be said for the over 75 which, I believe was the original intent of the CDC. But, state Governors decided that they knew better than the Science experts at the CDC. What a surprise, who knew?

They don't have the option's that most have. Most are below poverty and if they do not pick/ process food then we would have more starving. Then there is the science that darker skinned folks are dying at a much higher rate.....Yes, the strawberry pickers along with everyone in fields and factories should come before you to heal this country.
Do you really believe your life is more valuable? Why?
Do you wear a mask? Stay home, take all precautions? Thank God you have those options.

Many times in the news there have been stories about how people in Black and Hispanic communities have a higher rate of deaths due to COVID. These communities have a history of being underserved by the medical industry. The federal government has a responsibility to ensure “equal protection”; therefore, it is reasonable for them to collect data one the number of Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics are being vaccinated.

Please quote the person you are directing your comments to. I have no idea who you are replying to here. Who "knows it"?????

Gee, I thought "What is the name of your first pet" is the number one security question. Just kidding.

Reply to msilagy
 

OP here...
I did not say I agreed or disagreed with Winn Dixie's eligibility requirements. I only pointed out the huge difference between the governor's "Seniors First" policy and what Winn Dixie is stating when you want to get the vaccine from them.

As for the waiver, it is clearly a Winn Dixie document with their logos on it. You hold them harmless by signing it. As far as I know, correct me if you signed a similar legal document when you got YOUR shot, no other location (including Publix) makes you sign a waiver and ASKS FOR YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER on the form. That is an identity theft problem just waiting to happen.

As for collecting racial data, the goverment doesn't require it, and I feel that THAT DATA can be collected AFTER you react to the virus (like being hospitalized or dying) or reacting to the vaccine (like headache or stroke), not BEFORE.

I am not a selfish person. Never said I wanted to be first in line. And you don't know if I am a senior OR middle aged worker who has already been struck by the virus and luckily survived.

Please don't shoot the messenger.

Skip

About time some one is offering to the people who have to go to work! Those people are who can easily spread the virus.

The rest of the story is the Feds guidelines are recommendations only. They specifically say State guidelines take precedence. Therefore, 65 + first and 2nd shots held in reserve here in FL. Right on!

First, save lives, then control the spread. The humanitarian thing to do, in my opinion.

We would not necessarily have less food or other goods or services. That would stay the same because of demand staying constant. The rich owners would have to pay a livable wage to their workers. The owners would just get less profit and they would have less wealth to brag about at their country clubs. Also, the owners would have to invest capital in machines to pick, distribute, and control goods and services that way. It would take change, which requires work and imagination.

Personally I don’t like anything from Winn Dixie.

Lots of people can have different opinions as to what group should go 1st or early - but, only the CDC has the medical and scientific experts that work FULL-TIME to come up with guidelines. Those guidelines should be followed.

What about my children? Me, me, and mine first right?

Those who work are exposed everyday, do you know if they are positive, NO, do they know they are positive, No, or Yes, and if so will probably continue to work, to put food on their table.
Enter your age group, who gets a paycheck and has the choice to not be exposed to anyone, unless they choose to, who doesn’t have to worry about their children going hungry. I worked for over 5 months during the initial start, was it had to see a 80yo with previous health issues die, sure.

Was it harder to see the 35yo with 4 kids die, yes 100 times harder. But I am guessing you would think different. Most of the loss we experienced was under 50, but I didn’t sit in front of my television, I chose to return to work to do the most good. Media, and real time is two different views.

But no worries on the younger healthcare gens taking your vaccine spot, many have said no.

Nonsense. The retiree can stay at home, and none of us will suffer in his absence. He wants the vaccine so he can go out and play.

Also, and this is actual science, the 66 year old is *not* more likely to become positive than of the 59 year old doing a critical job. He may, due to age and flab, be more likely to croak - but that’s why he should play it safe and stay home until the folks performing essential duties have been stuck.

Mine have been vaccinated, yep before most. It was mandatory, or resign. If they had a choice all would have refused.

A 49 year old nurse would probably want the 66 year old retire to go first so she has one less patient

Thats all federal guidelines NOT the guidelines for the state of Fl. Many should fully understand the news articles before posting them and scaring people. Do you actually think Winn Dixie will operate under seperate guidelines than everywhere else??? Think about it!! Its the same there as anywhere else in Fl, so to the rest of the readers.......jump on an appt as soon as it opens! And Oh My God, you have to reveal your race!! Horrors!! 99% of any forms or apps has that question. Whats the big deal? You answer all the personal questions on the form about your health and youre horrified to list your race?? Do you actually think a computer generated appointment will seperate the apps according to race? Is that the insinuation?

My wife was one of those that was jumping through the hoops for the vaccine , finally connected in Orange County , personally I am in good health 80 years old and may not get the shot ,still considering . When my “Doc”
has it I might get one at his office.

Everyone signs their rights away wherever they get it.

I believe Winn Dixie got it right. If those had been the vaccination guidelines across the country from the beginning, our infection rate would be much lower now. We, Seniors, can control our points of contact and how much we want to go out and control our level of exposure much more than all those who are working in jobs with contact with lots of people every single day. If they are vaccinated first, that protects Seniors and everyone else from possible infection. The only reason, in my opinion, that our Governor made "Seniors First" is that we vote at higher percentages than younger people. We need to put health before politics in a global pandemic. Even people in Nursing homes are better protected if their younger staff are vaccinated and tested first. That is a bubble that contacts can be controlled. Kudos to Winn Dixie!

Despicable to have to wait our turn. The Villagers are God's Chosen People. "Me first, me first" is our battle cry!

I would add to that the fact that vaccinating the elderly will keep more hospital ICU beds free.

This is one of those conundrum situations. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Are you actually serious?

Everyone should be able to get the vaccination IF they want it, but when there is still a shortage they have to choose the most vulnerable first. The most vulnerable are the seniors, period. The young simply shrug the virus off easier than the Flu, IF they are not medically handicapped. If the first responders are young, then they could wait a bit to get their shots until there was sufficient quantity to go around. They might get sick and miss a couple days of work. Same with many medical professionals, UNLESS there is a threat that they might pass on the virus to patients. To say that someone working in a restaurant or a discount store NEEDS the vaccination in order to work is being disingenuous. To say that teachers need to be inoculated before teaching is also exaggerating. How many of these folks get the Flu shot every year? A few months ago, everyone was screaming about the hospitals being overwhelmed by COVID patients and people dying. Now, everyone wants the shot so that they can go back to work or do whatever it is they do. Are they going to die without it? Doubtful. Retired does not mean someone else is more valuable. It means that retirees have worked long enough to EARN the right to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Retired or aged or senior does not mean they deserve to die, just because they are in a younger generation's way. Take care of those that have paved the way for YOU and then take care of those less vulnerable. I am not saying that folks that are prone to illness and have a low immunity should have to wait, but the stats prove that the aged are dying from the virus at a much higher rate when exposed.
When I said that anyone that is worrying about others not wearing a mask should stay home, I was told that I don't care about my fellow man if I did not care about folks wearing a mask. Now, you folks are saying if you are old you should stay home and let the young go to work and school with an inoculation. Funny how that works, huh?

I spent hours and days/weeks trying to get my spouse a vaccination for the virus and finally succeeded. There were hundreds of thousands competing for the spot. I finally got her an appointment this week and spontaneously succeeded in getting me one also. I had originally though of waiting until the VA offered them, as I have not been worried about contracting the virus. I seem to have a very good immunity system, so I have not been concerned for myself. I had to make an hour and half trip one way to get her the shot so I went ahead and got mine also. Now the VA is offering their Vets COVID vaccinations. Go figure.
The point is that the only way to get this country back to normal is to reduce the hospitalizations and deaths. You don't lower that rate by giving the shots FIRST to everyone but the seniors. The seniors are filling up the hospital beds and dying. The young can weather a couple of days of discomfort. Very few have had serious effects from the virus.

Someone said something about giving the vaccination to those that are in close proximity of customers or patients with the reasoning that they would not be passing it on to others if they have been vaccinated. That interesting because I read that they do not know if an immune person can pass it on or not. That is the reason they want everyone to continue to wear masks, so they don't pass it on to others. If wearing a mask protects others, and you do not have the virus then why else would you continue to wear a stupid mask? I am not wearing the mask to protect myself if I am immune. If I am protecting you because you do not have the vaccination yet, then I shouldn't need much of a mask because something against your face is going to stop droplets from being expelled, regardless of how thin the material is, right? Just a thought.
If I am getting this serum put into me to make me immune, then I am not going to wear a mask to protect others. Why? Because you should worry about wearing a mask to protect yourself.

Seniors First
 

I believe in several weeks they will be competing for your business (shots) just as in FLU shots. This will happen once vaccine is more available.

The vaccines don't give immunity. The percentages refer to efficacy. The vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting very sick or dying. But you can still get infected after vaccination and at least with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines you can pass the virus on to others. So please keep your masks on!

All true and older Americans do get sicker with CV and then get into the hospital and then more die. Those are the statistics AND science. When the hospitals are clogged then all age groups get less or sometimes denied care. It just makes sense to do the older population 1st after hospital workers. And just check that England did it that way and have had the world's biggest decrease in positive cases. England PROVES what I have been saying as opposed to just someone's individual opinion.

That made no sense to me?

Exactly, that's what I had said.

Anything and everything has a downside. The good must be weighed against the bad in any decision either personal or group or national.

Correct up to the point about NOT wearing a mask. Scientists say wear one until CV is 98% irradicated. That is enough for me.

Several things about CV are still unknown - including how long the efficacy lasts - estimates are from 3 months to several years?????