[pickleball119]

Seems like a decent idea to me and the idea has been floating around for quite a while ( I think Bernie Sanders talked about it ).
Would like to start a discussion on this forum regarding that subject.
To my knowledge, many countries have it and it works.
Yes--I have heard horror stories about it and have heard it is NOT working in Canada. BUT--I have talked with Canadian citizens that are happy with it.
Seems to me like it would work a lot like medicare--and I don't have a problem with that.
Yes--it would be a "government run" program and I have heard the complaint calling it by that "bad name" of socialized medicine. I'm not sure socialized medicine is such a bad thing.
One thing I do know is that EVERY citizen SHOULD be covered by good health insurance.
My guess is I am going to hear from a lot of people
with different opinions--but it should be a learning experience for all of us.
I was recently told by a retired doctor that, in his opinion, it "is the way to go".
Your thoughts?

[KSSunshine]

Originally Posted by pickleball119

Seems like a decent idea to me and the idea has been floating around for quite a while ( I think Bernie Sanders talked about it ).
Would like to start a discussion on this forum regarding that subject.
To my knowledge, many countries have it and it works.
Yes--I have heard horror stories about it and have heard it is NOT working in Canada. BUT--I have talked with Canadian citizens that are happy with it.
Seems to me like it would work a lot like medicare--and I don't have a problem with that.
Yes--it would be a "government run" program and I have heard the complaint calling it by that "bad name" of socialized medicine. I'm not sure socialized medicine is such a bad thing.
One thing I do know is that EVERY citizen SHOULD be covered by good health insurance.
My guess is I am going to hear from a lot of people
with different opinions--but it should be a learning experience for all of us.
I was recently told by a retired doctor that, in his opinion, it "is the way to go".
Your thoughts?

Around August 31 or early September 2016, the Vancouver Newspaper had a rather long feature article discussing the problem with the Canadian system. The issue was that the Canadian system morphed into a two-tiered system. Citizens who could afford it, purchased private health insurance, in essence allowing for Doctors in Canada that would take their private insurance granting them priority access to medical services. Some purchased health care insurance that would allow them the option to come to the USA for their medical care. This left the Canadian citizen who couldn't afford private insurance with long waits for what we take for granted (if we have health insurance or Medicaid. Not sure about Medicare just yet.). Years before (about 2000-03), I worked with a Toronto family whose child had a significant disability, but had purchased private insurance that they would utilize in Detroit.
Additionally, a family (I worked with the wife) was transferred to Calgary, but found the health care system so bad, that the wife refused to stay unless the company provided USA insurance that they could cross the border to get their family's medical care in Montana. Not saying either way about how that could be better implemented in the USA, but trying to illustrate that the Canadian system works for some and not for others. Nice to hear that you know people who it works for!

[MikeV]

Nope,


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[Challenger]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Political!

If we can discuss important issues because so one calls them political ,this forum becomes a gossip column.

Social Security was "bad mouthed" for years with attempts early on to repeal. Few would favor repeal today. Health care is a vital issue which deserves as much public discussion as possible without artificial restraints.

[njbchbum]

Will everyone pay for their insurance or will there still be Medicaid?
Will charity care and uncompensated care funds be eliminated or remain in the program?
Who will set the price for health insurance and services - government or health providers?
Who will administer the program - government or outsourced by contract?
What happens when the single payer program runs short of $$ - just raise our taxes?

[JoMar]

Not sure of the health of the Canadians you talked to but those in our age bracket that live there (including a family member) usually travel to the US when a significant or emergency procedure is needed. The taxation to support the program is significant. There is no incentive since all health care compensation is regulated so doctor to patient ratios are low (not enough doctors) and waiting lists do exist. I suspect, like everything political, it depends on your agenda and "what works for you". Long way to get to my position......Nope

[mtdjed]

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[clekr]

Are you willing to pay the 50 + tax rate that goes along with it?

[GoodLife]

I was recently told by a retired doctor that, in his opinion, it "is the way to go".
Your thoughts?

This should have been your first clue.

[EPutnam1863]

My sister, when she broke her hip, was in a ward where she was the only female, and her 7 roommates were male. She lives in Canada.

Her doctor refused to prescribe sleeping pills for her because he was afraid he would get into trouble.

She asked for a female doctor when she was advised to have a pap smear. After 15 years she is still waiting.

In England bacxk in 1995 gasoline cost $10.00 to help pay for the health care.

BUT when our son, while visiting London, got something in one of his eyes. He walked to the nearest hospital at 2:30 am, and they treated him and gave him antibiotics for free.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by pickleball119

Seems like a decent idea to me and the idea has been floating around for quite a while ( I think Bernie Sanders talked about it ).
Would like to start a discussion on this forum regarding that subject.
To my knowledge, many countries have it and it works.
Yes--I have heard horror stories about it and have heard it is NOT working in Canada. BUT--I have talked with Canadian citizens that are happy with it.
Seems to me like it would work a lot like medicare--and I don't have a problem with that.
Yes--it would be a "government run" program and I have heard the complaint calling it by that "bad name" of socialized medicine. I'm not sure socialized medicine is such a bad thing.
One thing I do know is that EVERY citizen SHOULD be covered by good health insurance.
My guess is I am going to hear from a lot of people
with different opinions--but it should be a learning experience for all of us.
I was recently told by a retired doctor that, in his opinion, it "is the way to go".
Your thoughts?

Competition works. With single payer you have no competition. Also what Government program now being run by the Government runs efficiently at lowest cost levels? Chile has a single payer socialized medical system. Guess who uses it, those that cannot afford to buy their own. We will always have those that cannot afford the Health Insurance and we should take care of them when they really need the service. However lets try full competition across state lines first. Remember when was the last Government Run entity that was repealed after it was put into effect.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by pickleball119

Seems like a decent idea to me and the idea has been floating around for quite a while ( I think Bernie Sanders talked about it ).
Would like to start a discussion on this forum regarding that subject.
To my knowledge, many countries have it and it works.
Yes--I have heard horror stories about it and have heard it is NOT working in Canada. BUT--I have talked with Canadian citizens that are happy with it.
Seems to me like it would work a lot like medicare--and I don't have a problem with that.
Yes--it would be a "government run" program and I have heard the complaint calling it by that "bad name" of socialized medicine. I'm not sure socialized medicine is such a bad thing.
One thing I do know is that EVERY citizen SHOULD be covered by good health insurance.
My guess is I am going to hear from a lot of people
with different opinions--but it should be a learning experience for all of us.
I was recently told by a retired doctor that, in his opinion, it "is the way to go".
Your thoughts?

All I can say is---Be careful what you wish for.

[manaboutown]

SOCIALIST PARADISE: UK Cancels ALL ROUTINE OPERATIONS Due to Overcrowding | Sean Hannity

[rustyp]

Isn't medicare a single payer socialized medicine system ?

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

SOCIALIST PARADISE: UK Cancels ALL ROUTINE OPERATIONS Due to Overcrowding | Sean Hannity

The Village area is a glimpse of what single payer might be like. Most here in the Area have Health Insurance. How easy is it to get an appointment to see a Doctor if its a non-scheduled visit? My Doctor and Dentist visits are schedule months in advance.