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Pat2015 07-09-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1970455)
You may not realize it but Springfield has a big airport where a lot of visitors coming to go to Branson. That may be one of the reasons. But at any event it's still a lot of people dying for no reason when they are now three or four effective vaccines. I do understand that some people are still scared of getting a vaccination that was not created in a normal way but through DNA manipulation

People that are refusing the vaccines are doing so as they are not FDA approved, they feel their risk of getting it or becoming seriously ill and/or dying is very little based on statistics, and the long term effects of the vaccines are unknown.

CFrance 07-09-2021 08:20 AM

[QUOTE=davephan;1970451]That could be true that people aren’t getting the vaccinations for political reasons. It could also be true that they don’t trust the possible consequences of taking the vaccinations, including many nurses who refuse to take the vaccinations.

"I think it’s also probably a political statement to see a person in their convertible, with the top down, driving near no one, yet wearing a mask while driving alone in their convertible."
Many have found relief from seasonal allergies since having to wear a mask. No telling what the guy's reasoning is, but suggesting it's political seems unlikely. It's also been stated that some people running errands just leave it on while going from one place to another.

Pat2015 07-09-2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1970483)
No, they are not getting vaccination because……….watching too much of Fox talking heads.

That’s simply not true as Fox on many occasions has touted getting vaccinated and here’s a quote from Esquire, “ Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy, and Ainsley Earhardt have openly discussed how they got vaccinated, and are happy about it, on-air.” Here’s another quote “ Fox News anchors such as Bret Baier, Dana Perino and Bill Hemmer have posted photos on Instagram of themselves getting a shot. Harris Faulkner, who hosted a town hall meant to “debunk common myths” about the vaccine, told viewers in a public service announcement in February to get it if they can. And last month, Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume said that he was fully vaccinated and urged “everybody to do that.” That’s not to say that there aren’t some differences of opinion on getting vaccinated but that’s a personal decision, and not a network decision.

Lizziemay 07-09-2021 08:46 AM

I wonder how many people died in car accidents that tested positive for covid ? Do you really think the medical community is testing dead people ?

Bucco 07-09-2021 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1970483)
No, they are not getting vaccination because……….watching too much of Fox talking heads.

Unbelievable as it sounds, there is much truth to this sadly.

Yesterday morning (Thursday) I happen to get on Fox in the morning.

The three person crew was actually mocking those who got the vaccine, making fun of Faucci, and coming up with excuses not to get the vaccine.

This from a network who claims patriotism (while veterans were used in a con foundation, where they they refuse to admit actually what happened at the capitol, etc)

I do think with so many naysayers (unfounded) we are in for much more with, what we have been warned, is and will be a rapidly mutating virus.

A sad commentary on what has happened to my country.

golfing eagles 07-09-2021 08:56 AM

[QUOTE=CFrance;1970542]
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Originally Posted by davephan (Post 1970451)
That could be true that people aren’t getting the vaccinations for political reasons. It could also be true that they don’t trust the possible consequences of taking the vaccinations, including many nurses who refuse to take the vaccinations.

"I think it’s also probably a political statement to see a person in their convertible, with the top down, driving near no one, yet wearing a mask while driving alone in their convertible."
Many have found relief from seasonal allergies since having to wear a mask. No telling what the guy's reasoning is, but suggesting it's political seems unlikely. It's also been stated that some people running errands just leave it on while going from one place to another.

We can make whatever excuse we want for these people, but in reality they suffer from life-changing paralyzing FEAR. PARANOIA. that's all. They will vehemently deny it, but despite all we know, they continue to believe they are protecting themselves with a mask, even though all the evidence shows it only does a little to protect those around us. They are not being altruistic, they are not protecting the rest of us by continuing to wear a mask alone, they are very simply AFRAID. Someone suggested they are only wearing it to prevent allergies. Fine. But if that is the case, where were all the pedestrians, cyclists, cart and car drivers wearing a mask pre-COVID? Did anyone see any? So if someone wants to say they've been wearing a mask while cycling for 10 years, I'll take their word for it, but that person would be the exception and does not explain the hundreds that are still wearing a mask. At a community theater production last night in a theater of 100-125, there were at least 20 wearing a mask. Were they allergic to the play? Were they immunocompromised and in reverse isolation? I don't think so.
And you know what? If they would just state they are wearing it out of fear, that would be OK also. Stupid, but OK. But instead they make every excuse in the book for wearing it, so obviously they are concealing their true reasoning (or lack thereof)
Sorry if that is offensive to the <1% of the population it describes, but the truth is the truth, even if some won't face it.

Bucco 07-09-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1970551)
That’s simply not true as Fox on many occasions has touted getting vaccinated and here’s a quote from Esquire, “ Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy, and Ainsley Earhardt have openly discussed how they got vaccinated, and are happy about it, on-air.” That’s not to say that there aren’t some differences of opinion on getting vaccinated but that’s a personal decision, and not a network decision.

No doubt true, yet many are mocking people who got vaccinated, and are literally begging people to listen to reason. This continues loudly on that network, and makes you wonder what exactly they are rooting for.

Don’t get it, give your reasons, but the mocking and giggling, the laughing at people who are asking us to take this seriously is not acceptable to me, but not surprising with this source

thelegges 07-09-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lizziemay (Post 1970552)
I wonder how many people died in car accidents that tested positive for covid ? Do you really think the medical community is testing dead people ?

Yes they are. And reviewing old death certificates that were not tested, and possible change to Covid related. Don’t forget every facility gets $$$ for each case.

Our best friends son stage 4 Mets to lung, brain, his Mom (hospice nurse) did his hospice in their home, never out in public, for 4 months. Not tested. His certificate is in review to change to Covid. He was 29

Our best friend, he and his wife both Anesthesiologists, she was stage 4, Mets, septic. Hospice in home by her husband, at their 25 acre cottage, for 3 months, No outside contact. Cardiac Arrest on their way to hospital, did CPR in the parking lot of rest area. Pronounced at scene. Never tested Certificate in review for possible Covid Death. She was 62.

So two examples close to my heart, families are fighting the change in cause of death, that is in review.

Bogie Shooter 07-09-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1970551)
That’s simply not true as Fox on many occasions has touted getting vaccinated and here’s a quote from Esquire, “ Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy, and Ainsley Earhardt have openly discussed how they got vaccinated, and are happy about it, on-air.” That’s not to say that there aren’t some differences of opinion on getting vaccinated but that’s a personal decision, and not a network decision.

Can you say the same for Hannity??

NoMoSno 07-09-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1970587)
Can you say the same for Hannity??

Yes.
Try again.

justjim 07-09-2021 09:33 AM

Facts or fiction
 
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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1970425)
And just like many other supposed Covid deaths, many of those actually died of other causes! The national number is totally bogus

And you know this how? Geez…

thelegges 07-09-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1970595)
And you know this how? Geez…

Read post #38, unless you are involved, you will never know

Pat2015 07-09-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1970587)
Can you say the same for Hannity??

As I said, there are some who don’t support the vaccine everywhere in our country but overall many on FOX do support the vaccines. Another quote, “Fox News anchors such as Bret Baier, Dana Perino and Bill Hemmer have posted photos on Instagram of themselves getting a shot. Harris Faulkner, who hosted a town hall meant to “debunk common myths” about the vaccine, told viewers in a public service announcement in February to get it if they can. And last month, Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume said that he was fully vaccinated and urged “everybody to do that.”

Bucco 07-09-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1970589)
Yes.
Try again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media...mixed-message/

Bucco 07-09-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1970600)
As I said, there are some who don’t support the vaccine everywhere in our country but overall many on FOX do support the vaccines. It’s a personal choice, not a network choice.

Just a coincidence that those who mock, and make fun are all on that network ?


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