6 foot distancing , and wearing masks started getting ignored , can’t we try to do those 2 things ,until we get more info and solutions.

Just Wondering
 

We have continually heard about false negatives, so isn't it just possible that there are also false positives? I don't see how you can have one and not the other.

The counting system is not perfect. YouTube

I've seen the entire video, about 90 mins, made undercover by the Elmhurst nurse in NY and totally believable. I believe the unabridged version has been scrubbed from YT:

Shocking revelations by a nurse from Elmhurst Hospital, the New York "epicenter of the epicenter"
url link

Andrew Cuomo’s coronavirus nursing home policy proves tragic: Goodwin
Gov. Cuomo coronavirus nursing home policy proves tragic: Goodwin

In my state, Gov Wolf issued the same order (immediately after the state medial director pulled her mother out of her nursing home), resulting in 66% of the Covid deaths in PA

Make your own conclusions! :ohdear:

Fred

COVID19 vaccines
 

Here is a recent video that summarizes the approaches to vaccine development. It takes a long time to develop, test and manufacture a novel vaccine. If we have a safe, effective and readily available vaccine in two years it will be amazing, in one year would be incredible. I will not be among the first to get a rushed vaccine. I will wait a few months to see if the first folks get protected without significant side effects.

3 Researchers Break Down COVID-19 Vaccines They're Developing (3 Types) | Cause + Control | WIRED - YouTube

You can only count Total Outcomes. There are only two outcomes, death and recovery. Number of cases is like number of people in an airport. Until they get on a plane and safely reach their destination, you don't know their outcome.
In the US there are over 2 Million cases. There are 116,847 deaths and 842,006 recovered. Divided the number of deaths by the total outcomes (death plus recovered) times 100 will give you the percent death rate.
EX. 116,847 + 842,006 = 958,853. 116,847/958,853= 0.1218 x 100 = 12.18%.
Florida does not give the recoved count.

Common sense tells you that the increase is due to increased testing. It’s time to get on with life and stop living in fear. How? Be ready to meet your maker. We were all born to die.

A possible answer is in trials right now. It is a type of cocktail, similar to the idea for HIV. Maybe this will short circuit this pandemic, if it is successful.

Good point anyone over 60 needs to be aware of where they go and who is at that location and take personal responsibility

I'm a bit surprised, that we haven't heard of any businesses making customers sign some kind of waiver...to 'try' to legally protect themselves. :shrug:

I'm also surprised, we haven't heard (given our highly litigious society)...lawsuits regarding such.

I suppose it will just be a matter of time...until that catches on. :oops:

Just heard on the news today that the UK is in phase 3 of testing a vaccine. They are cautiously hopeful.Keep fingers crossed.

We have heard that people attending certain political rallies will have to sign a waiver.

All the people celebrating for Memorial Day weekend.

I’m not going to waste my time reading through 4 pages of posts ..... someone else has probably said this .... so be it

Have you ever considered that more testing = higher numbers ???

Yes, but A better metric, percent positives, doubled the past week from 2% to almost 5%, not a good direction...

One hopes this will be a reminder to those who think it is over, that it is NOT over and will not be over for a much longer time than any of us would like. My mother used to describe the 1918 flu and how not only her entire family was sick, but their whole neighborhood and how it lasted for four (4) years.

As we have seen, the media picks and chooses which states they want to portray as doing a good job or a bad job on virus control. Even though Florida has managed the pandemic much better than New York, it gets attacked in the press repeatedly.

Now they are running stories about spikes of cases in various states and appear to put the blame on reopening too early. Comparing graphs of new cases in Florida and New York gives a better understanding.

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Look at that huge spike! 2500 new cases in one day!

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Look how good New York is doing, they've gone down from 12,000 new cases per day to 2000, great job!

I don't know if the Florida spike is an anomaly from backlogged tests or if its a sign the virus is resurging. If it's a resurge I would certainly take a look at huge protests that have been taking place for past two weeks as a source for new infections.

There has been no big spike in Sumter County, 4 new cases in past week. There also haven't been any huge protests either.

We are going to far to fast with easing restrictions

Have you seen the amount of visitors in the Villages lately? People are on vacation! Wait until you see the Village numbers in 2 weeks.

I don't want to die just now. My maker says I have choices. People who are older make up most of those who die and they die a horrible death, alone. I do not live in fear, but I am staying home. Husband fetches groceries and things wearing a mask. He continues to play golf, riding alone and keeping a distance. We have folks who love us and they think it is the right thing to do. How bad is it to stay home and swim in the pool and paint pictures and clean closets and cook and watch some nice movies and British T.V. with two very fun and enjoyable people?? I am indeed blessed. I am so sad for those alone.

YES. Because our village is small and just off the beaten path of 466 we have a front porch view of "white golf cart* traffic" as they come and circle our group of 54 homes. Last night husband and I counted six "offlanders" in an hour. We call them "looky-loos". That is NOT uncommon in the high season, but it is unusual now in the summer.............

*Usually a white golf cart signifies a rental. But not always........

So far there have been 1041 cases in Lake, Sumter and Marion counties combined.

The combined population of the three counties is about 585,000. That's .0018% of the population.

I'm not sure why this particular are seems to have such a low infection rate, but I'm beginning to be less and less concerned about this virus.

I agree and we are with your thoughts 100%

Went past City Fire in Brownwood last weekend.....the outside was packed. :ohdear:

A lunch......no social distancing.

ZOOM is the answer to bring a little joy to those who are alone. Once it's set up its a breeze.

I feel like I'm was getting a little braver and have knocked my new found bravery down a notch. Calm down. This ain't over yet.

I'll be first in line for the Vaccine if needed. Never made it into the Service so maybe I could contribute like that. I'm blessed to.

Spoilsport

Lot's of reasons for the case increase, what I'm interested in is the hospitalization rates. If that is going up then we have a problem. Far as I can find, nobody is reporting on that.

This site shows the number, but not a daily graph.
ArcGIS Dashboards

If it helps, as of 5/3 Sumter had 41 hospitalizations. One was added 5/10 bringing us to 42. We gained three last weeks when we also added the 8 new cases. Since then we are steady at 45.

I'm curious to know the amount of testing the local folks are doing...and how it compares to say, a month ago? :confused:

Good point, and to add, several states are doing more testing, and the number of positives is declining nonetheless.

Seems to me you just did a masterful job arguing that NY is handling the outbreak better than Florida.

New York has ten times Florida's death toll from Covid 19, 27% of all US covid 19 deaths have occurred in New York.

• U.S. COVID-19 deaths by state | Statista

So that's a big negative on NY handling the pandemic better than Florida.

The point of my post is that New York handled the pandemic so badly that dropping to 2000 new cases per day looks good, in Florida 2000 new cases is a large spike.

I'm not sure what the population of The Villages is and I'm not sure if anyone actually does. I recall it being reported as 130,000 a few years ago before south of 44 opened. I'm guessing that it has to be around 150,000 now.

But either way, there have been 82 cases reported in The Villages.

Now some people say that only a percentages of the actually infections are being reported. Some say that the report number is only about 10% of the actual number of cases.

If that's the case, we're looking at 820 cases out of a population of somewhere between 130,000 and 150,000 people. That's between .0063% and .0055%.

I'm beginning to be less and less concerned about this virus.

I do wonder why some areas have like NYC and Miami have such high infection rates and other's like The Villages, which has a pretty high population density has such a low rate.

:ohdear:

So you've got 12 women eating lunch outdoors, no masks. Now consider, how many of the 12 have kids, grandkids, and other visitors. What is the behavior of each visitor before arriving at The Villages? Are they going to crowded bars? Sixteen 30-40 year-old friends went to Lynch's Irish Pub in Jacksonville Beach on June 6 and all 16 caught the virus (link below). And BTW, how many people does the young waitress serve each day? It just takes one spreader for the dominoes to start falling.

Anyway, at least they were outdoors, that's helpful. But it seems unlikely that we'll keep dodging bullets forever even though I am hoping for the best.

Woman, 15 friends test positive for coronavirus after night out at Lynch’s

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