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MSGirl 07-23-2025 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kingofbeer (Post 2447865)
Correct. But seems like I am responsible for $972. I find it hard to believe that the dentist is going to accept only $532 for the crown.

Is he in or out of network?

kingofbeer 07-23-2025 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MSGirl (Post 2448026)
Is he in or out of network?

They had the wrong dentist in the claim that was sent over who was out of network. The correct dentist is in-network.

allsport 07-23-2025 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2447916)
No wonder patients find billing confusing. The doctors can’t even figure it out!

I was told by a village doc that the system hires high school drop outs to code after they coded a procedure that was never done. Now, since the fraud has been exposed, it is by design. Had I not questioned the bill, it would have been paid.

dpmers 07-23-2025 09:49 AM

I have the same plan, had 2 implants that included crowns. Since that crown was attached to an abutment UHC denied paying anything

Rainger99 07-23-2025 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dpmers (Post 2448051)
I have the same plan, had 2 implants that included crowns. Since that crown was attached to an abutment UHC denied paying anything

Did you appeal???

Eagle06 07-23-2025 01:43 PM

The $5,000 is the Annual Maximum for Dental. The percentage covered for each type of service is explained in your contract or paperwork.

blueash 07-23-2025 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2447967)
Keep adding freebies to a dead horse (MA plan), it’s still a dead horse. Think about it the common sense way: the insurance company issuing the advantage plan has to make money, thousands of $$$ off of you, what are they not going to give you? Medical service for 1, they will keep denying you service until 67% of their clients roll over accept their denial of service. Don’t believe me, call them and ask them if they can deny you medical service, and then Google advantage plans being looked at in congress for shady practices

And here is a classic example of confirmation bias. The problem the OP had was not due to UHC denying care which should have been covered. They apparently followed the rules. The mistake was made by the dentist's office which submitted the wrong codes for it to be covered. Place the blame where it clearly belongs.

Aloha 07-24-2025 04:11 AM

United Healthcare continues to have the worst reputation of all the crooks that run all the so-called "Healthcare services". Scum!

jacRI 07-24-2025 07:33 AM

Is your dentist listed as an in-network dentist. If not UHC only pays a portion.
If he is listed check to see what procedure code the dentist use. A listing of codes can be googled. Wrong code have dentist resubmit. Correct code file an appeal with UHC in writing and send certified mail return receipt requested. Follow instructions carefully for the documentation required. Call their customer service afterwards every 2 months for updates.
I initially got denied a replacement on 20yr old crown on a back molar that had broken claiming it was a cosmetic procedure. Took me 10 months but got crown fully paid.

CoachKandSportsguy 07-24-2025 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2448115)
And here is a classic example of confirmation bias. The problem the OP had was not due to UHC denying care which should have been covered. They apparently followed the rules. The mistake was made by the dentist's office which submitted the wrong codes for it to be covered. Place the blame where it clearly belongs.

Not disagreeing, and I am guilty as well in this case. However, time wasted, and patient time wasting for sloppy work for a patient and a customer who probably wasn't the first UHC dental customer is a sign of UHCs very low reimbursement rates. . . They did start a contract renewal negotiation with coachk's hospital at less than medicare reimbursement rates. I will be interested to see the final outcome, and will concede my confirmation bias as well. .

jpeckham 07-25-2025 09:11 AM

Is your dentist in the United network? If your dentist isn’t in the United provider network, you pay the difference between the United allowable charge and what your dentist charges. If your dentist is in the network they’ve agreed to the allowable charge.

Pugchief 07-25-2025 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2448012)
His cost is less than $100 plus time plus overhead.

Source?
Define "his cost".
Do you know what his overhead is?
What is "fair" for his time?

Pugchief 07-25-2025 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dpmers (Post 2448051)
I have the same plan, had 2 implants that included crowns. Since that crown was attached to an abutment UHC denied paying anything

Crowns placed on implant abutments are considered implant services, not general restorative. If your plan does not cover implant services, it is not unreasonable to have this type of exclusion. Some better plans might cover that, but not most.


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