[frose]

we all needed to be vaccinated to start school back in the sixties. you get jabbed with everything you can think of before going overseas in the military, get flu shots(vaccines) every year, what the hell is the problem..

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by frose

we all needed to be vaccinated to start school back in the sixties. you get jabbed with everything you can think of before going overseas in the military, get flu shots(vaccines) every year, what the hell is the problem..

Maybe it's a matter of having the freedom of choice as to whether or not you wish being vaccinated. Maybe some folks are tired of being told one thing today and another tomorrow, regarding this virus and the protection the vaccination may or may not produce. Maybe to some, it is a political thing (hope not). Americans do not like to be FORCED to comply with the whims of others, right or wrong.

Everyone dies eventually. The question is what will you do to insure a longer life? When it comes right down to it, it is NOT a matter of protecting your neighbor. In reality, your neighbor only counts if it is convenient for you. Most won't agree, but that is the simple truth.

I am not an anti-vaxxer, but I still do not get the flu shot. Never had the flu and never saw the reason to get it. The FLU shot is not mandated by the gov and neither should the Covid vaccination be mandated. Just my opinion.

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by lkagele

The religious objection is due to using fetal parts from aborted babies used in the development of the vaccine. Also, recipient has recovered from CV previously and tests positive for antibodies. Both donor and recipient were willing to sign waivers releasing the hospital from any liability if either one was to die of CV.


This has nothing to do with CV or risk or science. This is a Woke hospital that doesn't care if patients of a perceived political belief receive proper treatment or not.

Hmmmm Why is the fact that the woman is a covid survivor and tests positive for antibodies missing from most press reports and 99% of the comments in this thread?

This lady could easily prove that as a covid survivor, she is much less likely to be reinfected than a fully vaccinated person is likely to get a breakthrough case.

The data shows that reinfections are less than 1% of cases and very rare. The CDC and numerous states have reported breakthrough cases running at 25% during the delta surge.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

If she would rather die than get the vaccination, then I guess that is her right.

Called 'Thining the Herd"

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by SkBlogW

Hmmmm Why is the fact that the woman is a covid survivor and tests positive for antibodies missing from most press reports and 99% of the comments in this thread?

This lady could easily prove that as a covid survivor, she is much less likely to be reinfected than a fully vaccinated person is likely to get a breakthrough case.

The data shows that reinfections are less than 1% of cases and very rare. The CDC and numerous states have reported breakthrough cases running at 25% during the delta surge.

Last I checked cruise lines do not accept Covid survivors for embarkation on ships. Maybe in the future, that may change. Cruise lines accept proof of vaccination or a negative Covid test for embarkation.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Last I checked cruise lines do not accept Covid survivors for embarkation on ships. Maybe in the future, that may change. Cruise lines accept proof of vaccination or a negative Covid test for embarkation.

Cruise lines are desperate for passengers, and will practically pay you to ride with them.

[Ben Franklin]

Man has created every goddess and god he has ever worshiped, all 12,000+ of them. No man made religion has come out against vaccinations, that I m aware of. If a person doesn't want to accept science, then all science should be denied to them, including hospitalization, should they get COVID. How would you ever justify being against science trying to prevent you from getting COVID and then accepting science trying to save you? It doesn't make sense, rationally.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Cruise lines are desperate for passengers, and will practically pay you to ride with them.

What? Have you checked cruise fares lately?

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin

If a person doesn't want to accept science, then all science should be denied to them, including hospitalization, should they get COVID. How would you ever justify being against science trying to prevent you from getting COVID and then accepting science trying to save you? It doesn't make sense, rationally.

Since the CDC says that 78% of covid deaths are obese people, and since the USA is the most obese nation on earth which is one of the main reasons we have the world's highest death total, I'm going to rewrite your comment.

If an obese person doesn't want to accept science, then all science should be denied to them, including hospitalization, should they get COVID. How would you ever justify being against science trying to prevent you from dying from COVID and then accepting science trying to save you? It doesn't make sense, rationally.

[Velvet]

I find it interesting that in my northern city the millennials refer to those who are unvaccinated as the “dirty” people. And these were the same guys who used to call Covid “the boomer remover”.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by SkBlogW

Since the CDC says that 78% of covid deaths are obese people, and since the USA is the most obese nation on earth which is one of the main reasons we have the world's highest death total, I'm going to rewrite your comment.

If an obese person doesn't want to accept science, then all science should be denied to them, including hospitalization, should they get COVID. How would you ever justify being against science trying to prevent you from dying from COVID and then accepting science trying to save you? It doesn't make sense, rationally.

Not only is your rewrite foolish, it is based on a faulty analysis. You misunderstand the numbers presented in a study that acknowledged it's own limitations. I explained this before yet here it is again.

Two common errors: using bad data and using data badly.

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Not only is your rewrite foolish, it is based on a faulty analysis. You misunderstand the numbers presented in a study that acknowledged it's own limitations. I explained this before yet here it is again.

Two common errors: using bad data and using data badly.

You explained nothing before but came up with a bunch a gibberish about how the CDC was wrong about the 78% obesity in their study. Notice that no one in that thread agreed with your analysis? Should give you a clue.

Go to any hospital that treats covid and ask them if obesity is associated with a very large percentage of their hospitalized, intubated, or dead patients. That's what the CDC measured and that's what they found. Let us know when you have corrected the CDC errors.

You don't need a scientific study to know that obesity has played a huge part in the death toll from covid. Obesity causes heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes etc etc that are tops on the list for commorbidities that are associated with severe covid.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

What? Have you checked cruise fares lately?

I know folks that pay very little; mostly taxes and port fees. They go on at least one cruise a year. Personally, I do not see the lure, but different strokes.......and all that.