[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

It appears to me that your callous dismissal of people who are aging and going into the period of their lives where they are MOST LIKELY to need a hospital, is callous, and dismissive.

People look for relative safety when they pack up and move to a whole other way of life. We're not looking for health spas where our feet get rubbed by half-naked virginal boys carrying pitchers of warmed scented oils. We're looking for competent, efficient life-saving and disease-preventing health care.

It helps to know what we're moving into, before we actually move there. We COULD pick anywhere in the country to choose from, so when we do pick the Villages, we want to know that we made the right choice.

Judging from the board of health, the hospital organizations that actually know about this stuff, the state of Florida's health department, and the Villages residents, this hospital is remarkably horrible.

The hospital building is owned by the developer and leased to a hospital corporation. The second hospital corporation that leased it. This one came in 2013. The CDD does not have a drop of influence on how the hospital is run. Florida in general is in the bottom ten of all of the states in excellence in health care. My husband had surgery a month ago done by a specialist in The Villages Health Care System which is owned and run by the developer. The surgery was not done at TVRH, it was done at Advent Hospital in Ocala. The Villages Health Care system is a group of buildings that house a number of PCP's and PA's and surgeons and specialists and it was put in place to help us I think. AND of course it makes money. I was hospitalized in critical care for eight days at TVRH and I could not have asked for better care. Every single nurse and tech treated me as if I was their loved mother.

Jazuela. I think you should wait to move here and live here for awhile until you totally understand how this place works and doesn't work. You cannot depend on posters on a public forum for accuracy or depth of understanding. Patience, grasshopper.

[spring_chicken]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Since The Villages have nothing to do with the management of either TVRH or Leesburg, and there is a need to vilify in this forum and not work with the owners or management to improve what they believe is inadequacies, and therefore not believe anything will improve, shouldn't you just make sure you go to another hospital that meets your standards? How many that are condemning are going to listen to the President of both hospitals at the POA meeting?

Who vilified The Villages?

[Velvet]

Yes, and there are urgent care units sprinkled in TV, which are like walk-in clinics from what I understand. Very happy to have those!

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

It appears to me that your callous dismissal of people who are aging and going into the period of their lives where they are MOST LIKELY to need a hospital, is callous, and dismissive.

People look for relative safety when they pack up and move to a whole other way of life. We're not looking for health spas where our feet get rubbed by half-naked virginal boys carrying pitchers of warmed scented oils. We're looking for competent, efficient life-saving and disease-preventing health care.

It helps to know what we're moving into, before we actually move there. We COULD pick anywhere in the country to choose from, so when we do pick the Villages, we want to know that we made the right choice.

Judging from the board of health, the hospital organizations that actually know about this stuff, the state of Florida's health department, and the Villages residents, this hospital is remarkably horrible.

Callous Dismissal --- not so, just totally fed up with people who have never lived here or had to use the hospital assuming it is not up to standard. My husband has had two cancer surgeries here, one was an extremely rare cancer which was picked up right here in this "horrible" hospital and he is alive and well. Plus he had a serious head injury which was dealt with immediately through the ER with excellent results. I have had two major surgeries here (heart and internal) with excellent results. There are literally hundreds of us walking around who have survived this hospital. We are both from Boston and have also had surgeries in Beth Israel and the Baptist so we do have something to compare.

Do you really think 20+thousand people would chose to live here if the medical facilities were so bad? We are surrounded with excellent hospitals, i.e. Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Gainesville ......... take your pick.

I am going to be extremely rude and suggest if this subject bothers you this much, this is really not where you want to live.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by biker1

Since The Villages grows by about 5000 people per year, and has been growing at that rate for several years, the population will not double in 5 years. The current population of The Villages is closer to 120,000. The hospital also supports the surrounding areas. I am not sure how many additional people that is. Regardless, the population will not double in 5 years. The new facilities being built in Brownwood will shoulder some of the burden. Do you actually live here?

It was a hypothetical, because I don't know the actual numbers. Apply the actual numbers and the result is equally valid. There are more people now than there were when the hospital was built. The hospital was built to accommodate the total count of people living in the area, at that point in time. Applying simple math tells me that however many more people need to be included in "the number of people accommodated by this hospital" needs to be increased, while the actual "number of people who CAN be accommodated by this hospital" has remained relatively stable.

As such - the hospital can no longer sustain the population, because there are more people needing to be sustained than when it was built.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The hospital building is owned by the developer and leased to a hospital corporation. The second hospital corporation that leased it. This one came in 2013. The CDD does not have a drop of influence on how the hospital is run. Florida in general is in the bottom ten of all of the states in excellence in health care. My husband had surgery a month ago done by a specialist in The Villages Health Care System which is owned and run by the developer. The surgery was not done at TVRH, it was done at Advent Hospital in Ocala. The Villages Health Care system is a group of buildings that house a number of PCP's and PA's and surgeons and specialists and it was put in place to help up I think. AND of course it makes money.

Jazuela. I think you should wait to move here and live here for awhile until you totally understand how this place works and doesn't work. You cannot depend on posters on a public forum for accuracy or depth of understanding. Patience, grasshopper.

I don't care who owns it, or who occupies it. It is the local hospital. I'll be living closer to that hospital than any other hospital, and if I should happen to need emergency service (not urgent care), that would be the quickest ambulance trip.

Regardless of who owns it, its ratings are abysmal. Regardless of who runs it, its ratings are abysmal. Regardless of whether I live near it or not, its ratings are abysmal. I'm not talking about posts I read on the internet. I'm talking about actual facts, according to actual government and medical organization checks and balances and data provided by that actual hospital to those organizations that exist to come up with these statistics.

I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.

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[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

I don't care who owns it, or who occupies it. It is the local hospital. I'll be living closer to that hospital than any other hospital, and if I should happen to need emergency service (not urgent care), that would be the quickest ambulance trip.

Regardless of who owns it, its ratings are abysmal. Regardless of who runs it, its ratings are abysmal. Regardless of whether I live near it or not, its ratings are abysmal. I'm not talking about posts I read on the internet. I'm talking about actual facts, according to actual government and medical organization checks and balances and data provided by that actual hospital to those organizations that exist to come up with these statistics.

I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.

I understand it, but some problems cannot be solved easily or immediately and sometimes not at all.. Sometimes where you choose to live has almost everything you want and misses some important things. Life is a tradeoff and a gamble.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

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[Dan9871]

I don't think using the size of the hospital when it was built in 2002 is a way to estimate how well it covers the service needs of the Villages and the surrounding area today.

First of all there have been a number of expansions to the hospital, the last was an increased number of ER rooms and previous to that rooms were added to the hospital itself. It is now about three times the size it was in 2002.

Both an ER and a "bedless"hospital are being added to Brownwood. Each of these will reduce some of the load on the Villages Hospital.

Central Florida Health has said it has enough land in the Brownwood area to build another hospital though they have not made any commitments to yet.

A number of emergent care facilities and an Emergency Room (in Summerfield) have been added to the Villages area since 2002.

A number of the medical practices in the area have added same day appointments for various illnesses and medical problems since he hospital was built.

So medical facilities have been being added over time to keep up with the growth of the Villages and the surrounding area.

One of the issues with adding medical facilities like hospitals and emergency rooms is that there is a political component to it (not just here but anywhere). Other medical facilities in the area will claim that they are already serving the needs of the area and adding a new one might impact the services they provide... which can prevent a new facility from getting the certificates and licenses needed even if the have all the financial backing needed to go ahead.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

SNIP...>I don't care who owns it, or who occupies it. It is the local hospital. I'll be living closer to that hospital than any other hospital, and if I should happen to need emergency service (not urgent care), that would be the quickest ambulance trip.

Regardless of who owns it, its ratings are abysmal. Regardless of who runs it, its ratings are abysmal. Regardless of whether I live near it or not, its ratings are abysmal. I'm not talking about posts I read on the internet. I'm talking about actual facts, according to actual government and medical organization checks and balances and data provided by that actual hospital to those organizations that exist to come up with these statistics.<...SNIP

I couldn't...agree more.