[Mudder]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Villages PL:

While it's true we should consume a healthy diet and use moderation in quantity, there are plenty of people I've known who do lead an exceptionally healthy lifestyle that includes "health foods only" and rigorous exercise, and they still got , cancer, heart disease, diabetes, MS, and other dreaded diseases. Some people, like Christopher Reeve's wife, have gotten lung cancer even though they never smoked.

Let's not condescend to victims of these diseases by implying they "self-inflicted it" with their dietary intake or overeating.

I agree strongly, let's not blame a person because they need to be hospitalized. Bad things happen to good people too !!

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Villages PL:

While it's true we should consume a healthy diet and use moderation in quantity, there are plenty of people I've known who do lead an exceptionally healthy lifestyle that includes "health foods only" and rigorous exercise, and they still got , cancer, heart disease, diabetes, MS, and other dreaded diseases. Some people, like Christopher Reeve's wife, have gotten lung cancer even though they never smoked.

Let's not condescend to victims of these diseases by implying they "self-inflicted it" with their dietary intake or overeating.

You must know a lot of people if you know people who ate "health foods only" and they got cancer, heart disease, diabetes, MS, and other dreaded diseases. Wow! How come I never meet any of these people? I'm 70 years old, I've been interested in health and nutrition for several decades and I have never met even one such person.

However, putting that aside, can you show me where (in my post) I gave anyone a 100% guarantee? When it comes to health and nutrition, there's no such thing. That's why I started my post by saying you could reduce your risk by 50% or more.

You see the few who ate "health foods only" and got diseases. I see the 63% of the population who are overweight and obese. On the other side of the spectrum there are those who are perhaps underweight and undernurished. So I see lots of room for improvement. And those who are not living a healthy lifestyle, well, it's likely that they know who they are.

I don't condescend, I try to encourage those Villagers who have lots of room for improvement, like the more than 63% who are overweight or obese etc..

[grobb]

Went to ER on a Sunday afternoon with severe acute laceration. Sat in waiting room for 3 hours. Would experience. I don't think there was a doctor in the Hospital. Saw Noone get treated/ treated. Ended up going to urgent care. Hope I never have to go back

[NotGolfer]

Originally Posted by grobb

Went to ER on a Sunday afternoon with severe acute laceration. Sat in waiting room for 3 hours. Would experience. I don't think there was a doctor in the Hospital. Saw Noone get treated/ treated. Ended up going to urgent care. Hope I never have to go back

Not to minimize your injury...but Urgent Care should have been where you should have gone in the 1st place. The ER is for heart attacks and acute medical emergencies...unless the urgent care is closed and you feel you need to be seen immediately!! Hope your recovery is a rapid one!!!

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by grobb

Went to ER on a Sunday afternoon with severe acute laceration. Sat in waiting room for 3 hours. Would experience. I don't think there was a doctor in the Hospital. Saw Noone get treated/ treated. Ended up going to urgent care. Hope I never have to go back

Not for nothing Grobb but it's tough to take you seriously with your spelling, grammar and sentence structure (or lack thereof).

Obviously there are docs in the ER. And if the laceration was actually severe the triage nurse would have put you to the head of the line. And I agree that urgent care is where you should have been in the first place since it probably wasn't a case where you would bleed to death. I do triage in an Urgent Care Center and we know when someone can wait and when someone needs to be seen ASAP!

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

I do triage in an Urgent Care Center and we know when someone can wait and when someone needs to be seen ASAP!

This is a vote of confidence in the Triage System. I think it works beautifully.

More than once, I've gone to Emergency with Life Threatening Situations. And I've been bumped to the head of the line and treated immediately.

For most medical problems, I would definitely go to a Family Doctor or Urgent Care. Once I went to Emergency with a nose bleed that just wouldn't stop. It was the middle of the night, everywhere else was closed. I had to wait for four hours to be cauterized. I was totally OK with that, because I knew the doctors were busy attending to more serious situations.

[MichVisitor]

By far the worst hospital I've ever experienced. If my parents in The Villages need emergency health care again it will not be at the Villages Hospital. My mother was sent to the ER a couple days after Christmas 2011, after being checked by the Urgent Care MD. who ordered many tests and insisted they be done through the ER. Which then resulted in 9 hours in the waiting room.

Finally checked by an MD.... ok now wait to see the Cardiologist.... 24 hrs later ok now wait to see the Neurologist who may be in today or tomorrow.... turned out to be late the next day.... all tests turned out ok, then spent half a day begging to get a doctor to release her. Zero reason to be there on the last day, just a complete lack of a doctor available to release her.

9 hrs in the waiting room, 2 1/2 days in the hospital, and zero accomplished.

I've experienced professional hospitals with first class health care. This one is an absolute joke.

Never again.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by MichVisitor

By far the worst hospital I've ever experienced. If my parents in The Villages need emergency health care again it will not be at the Villages Hospital. My mother was sent to the ER a couple days after Christmas 2011, after being checked by the Urgent Care MD. who ordered many tests and insisted they be done through the ER. Which then resulted in 9 hours in the waiting room.

Finally checked by an MD.... ok now wait to see the Cardiologist.... 24 hrs later ok now wait to see the Neurologist who may be in today or tomorrow.... turned out to be late the next day.... all tests turned out ok, then spent half a day begging to get a doctor to release her. Zero reason to be there on the last day, just a complete lack of a doctor available to release her.

9 hrs in the waiting room, 2 1/2 days in the hospital, and zero accomplished.

I've experienced professional hospitals with first class health care. This one is an absolute joke.

Never again.

Sounds like big problems with the management of the specialists on call (i.e. cardiologist and neurologist mentioned).

[golf4me]

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[golf4me]

It isn't a big hospital but even in big ones medical people take time off between Christmas and New Years, not a great time to get sick.

If we lack something here in The Villages, it is a top class teaching hospital. If I had serious issues and had the time, I would go to Gainesville or Tampa.

[graciegirl]

I would have to agree. We just aren't a big enough town to have the very biggest and best. It is fine but not what many of us left behind in big cities

But I can't say one word against it personally since I have never gone there. Other places affiliated with the hospital like Lake Imaging are wonderful!

[golf4me]

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[Mudder]

Trying very hard not to comment, but.................went to Urgent care, sent immediately to ER, suspected serious kidney infection/stones. To make a very long story shorter I was admitted and spent the next 7 days there. I never saw a Urologist the whole time, spouse ranted one day (quietly and privately) to head nurse about all our concerns, not much she could do except try to placate us. I was in severe pain the whole time(allergic to many heavy duty pain stuff). Took days to get tests done, etc... The one hospitalist who saw me was good, attentive and seemed to have it pretty well under control, but still the fact that I did not get to see a Urologist really annoys me, they told me they had them on staff. A 5 hour wait for 2 tylenol pills seems a bit bizarre .....oh I have more stories but I'll spare you. I will say that two different people came around to ask about my stay - I gave them the good, the bad and the ugly. I will not totally bash the hospital tho because there are some good people who work there trying to do a good job. While I was there I felt like I was in a nightmare much of the time. Think they are probaly ok for some routine things, but more complex cases I 'd choose another hospital if at all possible.
I have been home for three days now, still fairly ill. Seeing a Urologist soon.

[MichVisitor]

I would agree...my mother also described her experience there as a nightmare. In 2 1/2 days, including the 9hr ER room wait, the only actual medical care she received was 2 Tylenol.

Quality health care starts at the top. Whoever is at the top management of the Villages Hospital is in the wrong line of work. It will never improve without a complete change of management.

Which is quite a shame, one thing that attracted my parents to come live in Villages was all the health care within the community. First priority on my next visit will be to research another hospital to use in the future when the need arrises.

[Mudder]

Michvisitor, we had previously researched Munroe in Ocala and Leesburg and determined those be be the ones we'd use....but I was in so much pain, etc and Villages Hospital was across the parking lot from Urgent Care, we said how bad can it be??? Well, now we know. The antibiotics they gave me did not do the trick, had to go back to Urgent Care to get the RIGHT one. Am finally on the mend. If I'd had the strength I would have gotten up and run out of the hospital!
They do send a survey after your visit. haven't gotten it yet , but am writing up exactly what happened to me and sending it to administrators. I don't know, maybe it will help a little for the next people who go there.
Hope your mother is doing ok, I am slowly feeling better. We will be using Munroe from now on, no matter what !