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CFrance 10-19-2014 02:24 PM
Zoner, Boogie & Sunny... thank you for your responses. I was stunned into brain freeze by the OP's post and unable to even articulate in my mind, much less in print. You three covered it all.

Boogie, so sorry for the loss of your wife. I'm glad you have another love in your life.

graciegirl 10-19-2014 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 955252)
I would never have surgery anywhere else but Mayo Jacksonville. I've had a couple of procedures there and they are the best IMO.

Check out a CBS report on malpractice in Florida.:mad:

Despite malpractice settlements, few doctors lose licenses - Videos - CBS News

After seeing this, I too was shocked.

sunnyatlast 10-19-2014 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 955261)
Zoner, Boogie & Sunny... thank you for your responses. I was stunned into brain freeze by the OP's post and unable to even articulate in my mind, much less in print. You three covered it all.

Boogie, so sorry for the loss of your wife. I'm glad you have another love in your life.
"Stunned into brain freeze" is right!!!

And since when can any mortal decide that a loved one would still be alive IF another mortal had not decided to have surgery done by another mortal having 16 more years of education and training beyond high school?!?!???!!??

Only God knows when our last day is! When your time's up, it's up!!

Barefoot 10-19-2014 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 955144)
They say if you want to live longer, stay away from doctors and hospitals....
Who is "they say"?
I've never heard anyone say "if you want to live longer, stay away from doctors and hospitals".

asianthree 10-19-2014 05:35 PM
I have noticed more stress and pressure at the funeral home than at a hospital

Barefoot 10-19-2014 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 955363)
I have noticed more stress and pressure at the funeral home than at a hospital
:bowdown:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-19-2014 07:02 PM
Not seeing a lot of responses from the OP. I would really like to know what kind of doctors he or she is married to.

SoccerCoach 10-19-2014 07:19 PM
I was admitted to a FL hospital having acute angina. Three days in that hospital with only an administered EKG they wanted to transport me to another hospital for "an open heart procedure", based only on an EKG, REALLY? I didn't think so because I was out of medications, causing the episode. So I signed myself out AMA, got my meds. That was 12 years ago. You really need to be your own advocate.

Halibut 10-19-2014 08:26 PM
It makes sense to get a second opinion about any surgery. Nobody should feel rushed or pressured into making a decision. I don't believe most doctors deliberately push unnecessary procedures, but they do make mistakes. As SoccerCoach said, you must always question and advocate for yourself.

The incidence of iatrogenic illnesses is higher than it should be, so it can sometimes be dangerous to go to a hospital.

The CDC healthcare-associated infection (HAI) prevalence survey provides an updated national estimate of the overall problem of HAIs in U.S. hospitals. Based on a large sample of U.S. acute care hospitals, the survey found that on any given day, about 1 in 25 hospital patients has at least one healthcare-associated infection. There were an estimated 722,000 HAIs in U.S acute care hospitals in 2011. About 75,000 hospital patients with HAIs died during their hospitalizations. More than half of all HAIs occurred outside of the intensive care unit.

OBXNana 10-19-2014 08:42 PM
My view separates life and death surgery from other surgery. Other surgery would include, but not necessarily limited to, back, cervical, orthopedic, and neurological (other than brain) surgery in general. Let your body be your guide. If the pain is such it interferes with your daily life and it has been recommended surgery would improve the quality (all other measures from diet, PT, and exercise have been exhausted) of life, then surgery is the final step to getting the quality of life we all want to achieve.

Villages PL 11-03-2014 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Suzi (Post 955159)
I would be VERY surprised if surgery was performed without the patient knowing what his choices were.No doctor I know would EVER do surgery (even if needed) without discussing what would happen without the surgery. My extensive experience shows that patients, faced with quick death without surgery, will opt to try for a little more time having surgery. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. In the case of your friend, you do not know how much time he had if he had not had the surgery. I am sure this was explained to him and his family and the choice was made between him and his loved ones. Surgery is not without risks but neither is leaving a brain tumor in place.
Be prepared to be "VERY surprised": When patients have coronary artery disease most cardiologists will not tell the patient that the condition can be reversed through diet, exercise and stress control. Patients are usually told they need a bypass operation. And that will put their life at risk as all operations do.

sunnyatlast 11-03-2014 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 962782)
Be prepared to be "VERY surprised": When patients have coronary artery disease most cardiologists will not tell the patient that the condition can be reversed through diet, exercise and stress control. Patients are usually told they need a bypass operation. And that will put their life at risk as all operations do.
They often don't have weeks, months and years to wait for your diet to work before they have a big blow out.

And once the surgery is done to get the person on safer ground, the doctors DO tell them what to avoid with diet and lifestyle.

Most people have a hard time staying on a plan that borders on self mortification.


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