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NoMo50 01-08-2025 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2399366)
BMI is BS. I am 6’1” 195 and my BMI says I am overweight. Work out daily and feel weak and too skinny if I get to 190, which still puts me borderline overweight based on the bogus BMI statistics. Muscle weighs more than fat and people who work out get penalized by the BMI.

Correct...and therein lies the fallacy of trying to apply a simple mathematical formula to the masses. Based on the BMI formulae, an NFL linebacker would be categorized as morbidly obese, when he probably has body fat of less than 4%. Now, I don't have a linebacker's body, but I have shed weight in the past and gotten to the point where the BMI scales would list me as "healthy." At this lower weight I felt anemic and weak, and looked skeletal. My doctor even suggested putting 15 pounds back on.

Bottom line...everyone is different. A logical approach would include a conversation with your doctor, who will recommend an ideal body weight for you, based on your circumstances.

nn0wheremann 01-08-2025 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2399361)
Let’s have weight vs height challenge; I’m 5 foot 11 and 3/4” nearly 73 and weigh 186 to 188 depending on which day I check. My BMI 25.9 says I’m over weight.

Hear one site to measure if interested? You don’t have to post your readings. But if interested if considered healthy or not by weight and height.

Adult BMI Categories | BMI | CDC

Scroll down click on adult BMI calculator

Here adult weight charts

Ideal Weight Chart | Staying Well

Accord to this chart I just in standard for good health? If I use European standards I’m 25 pounds over weight. Seems like everyone has opinion when comes to weight ve height vs health?

5’ 10” 204 so I am overweight. Would be more comfortable at 190 to 195, which is still overweight by the CDC standards. However, those standards apply to anyone over age 20. When I was that age I weighed 165. I would be emaciated at that age now. Old folks need to carry some extra weight because if we do become ill, or injured, we likely will loose more weight during a lengthy recovery.

Lisanp@aol.com 01-08-2025 08:55 AM

New research suggests that waist-to-hip ratio is a more accurate indicator of wellness than BMI. BMI is fraught with problems, one of them is that you can have a weight lifter with 8% body fat with a BMI of 35 and you can have someone who has 35% body fat with the same BMI. Waist-to-hip ratio does do a better job of capturing visceral fat, the fat that is most harmful in terms of mortality.

ThirdOfFive 01-08-2025 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisanp@aol.com (Post 2399646)
New research suggests that waist-to-hip ratio is a more accurate indicator of wellness than BMI. BMI is fraught with problems, one of them is that you can have a weight lifter with 8% body fat with a BMI of 35 and you can have someone who has 35% body fat with the same BMI. Waist-to-hip ratio does do a better job of capturing visceral fat, the fat that is most harmful in terms of mortality.

Actually the best indicator is how well my clothes fit.

Chefjeff 01-08-2025 08:58 AM

you are not overweight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2399366)
BMI is BS. I am 6’1” 195 and my BMI says I am overweight. Work out daily and feel weak and too skinny if I get to 190, which still puts me borderline overweight based on the bogus BMI statistics. Muscle weighs more than fat and people who work out get penalized by the BMI.

according to the BMI chart that was posted above your post, you are in the ideal weight range for your height. Good job! I'm trying to get there myself.

Chefjeff 01-08-2025 09:00 AM

Exactly! I can't afford a new wardrobe so I have to lose some more!

Villagesgal 01-08-2025 09:11 AM

Bone weight and structure also plays into BMI. A small framed 5ft 8 woman won't weigh as much as a large framed 5ft 8inch woman. My mother was 5ft 8 inches, had size 11 feet, wore a man's size large glove, and had a large frame with dense heavy bones. She was skin and bones, you could see her bones including ribs, hip bones, all of them, yet at 187 pounds was considered at the top end of overweight by her doctor. That's crazy. BMI doesn't take bone structure or muscles into consideration. It was made for insurance companies, not doctors. If you look good who care what your BMI is. It literally means nothing.

Kevin17 01-08-2025 11:15 AM

Body Comp Analysis: TV Health Care Centers
 
TV Health center offers monthly analysis that, in addition, to BMI, also gives body fat mass & percentage as well as hydration level percentage. This analysis takes ~5 minutes, no appointment needed. Head to TV HC website and search for 'Body Composition' to see when & where; its offered at select centers, usually for one hour.

Herscheleen 01-08-2025 01:14 PM

Bmi
 
:BigApplause:
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Originally Posted by Surf Daddy (Post 2399617)
I am 73, 6', 34" waist and weigh 210. It is all the same as when I played football 50 years ago. I work out 5x per week with weights and do cardio almost daily. My strength is 1/2 half of what it was then, but I am still muscular. I had a physical done recently, and some moron added to my record that I am obese by their algorithm. One size does not fit all.


Velvet 01-08-2025 02:48 PM

When I was younger I felt happy at 125 lb.Then 20 years later at 135, then another 20 years later, at 145. When I lose weight (which is not hard on very low carb diets, like the body builders) I can get to any BMI that I chose but I feel weaker and unhappier. So I let my body choose its ideal weight. It can’t go too high because higher weight and body fat tends to make my thighs rub together and being fat etc makes me irritable.

Oh, and, I tend to ignore BMI tables.

HORNET 01-08-2025 04:38 PM

Why?

Topspinmo 01-08-2025 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2399807)
Why?


To see —-if —you ———have weight problem based on government general standards which leads to other health problems. But, if don’t care don’t ask question…

Topspinmo 01-08-2025 08:31 PM

The myth of big bones

Quote
“ Yes, the myth that big bones make someone weigh more is a common misconception:
Bones don't contribute much to total body weight
Bones are not a major factor in a person's total body weight. Larger bones may add a few pounds, but not enough to make a difference between a healthy BMI and being overweight.
Obesity is not caused by big bones
A full-body X-ray of an obese person shows that their large size is due to soft tissue and fat, not their bones.
Bones can adapt to weight changes
The skeleton can adapt to changes in weight, but there are limits. Extreme deviations from a normal weight can impair the skeleton's ability to optimize bone strength. “

O my! :shrug:

Topspinmo 01-08-2025 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2399624)
Correct...and therein lies the fallacy of trying to apply a simple mathematical formula to the masses. Based on the BMI formulae, an NFL linebacker would be categorized as morbidly obese, when he probably has body fat of less than 4%. Now, I don't have a linebacker's body, but I have shed weight in the past and gotten to the point where the BMI scales would list me as "healthy." At this lower weight I felt anemic and weak, and looked skeletal. My doctor even suggested putting 15 pounds back on.

Bottom line...everyone is different. A logical approach would include a conversation with your doctor, who will recommend an ideal body weight for you, based on your circumstances.

IMO all football linesmen are over weight so they can throw their weight around. :bowdown:

Mikeg1955 04-29-2025 04:54 PM

BMI is not accurate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2399361)
Let’s have weight vs height challenge; I’m 5 foot 11 and 3/4” nearly 73 and weigh 186 to 188 depending on which day I check. My BMI 25.9 says I’m over weight.

Hear one site to measure if interested? You don’t have to post your readings. But if interested if considered healthy or not by weight and height.

Adult BMI Categories | BMI | CDC

Scroll down click on adult BMI calculator

Here adult weight charts

Ideal Weight Chart | Staying Well

Accord to this chart I just in standard for good health? If I use European standards I’m 25 pounds over weight. Seems like everyone has opinion when comes to weight ve height vs health?

Ignores to get a correct fat % you need a machine that is calibrated to give you fat and muscle in lbs
I am Certifies Personal Trainer
I use one of these machines to give my clients accurate information.
My weight/ fitness programs burn fat and build muscle.
If you lose weight and more then 20% is muscle donot lose the weight. Muscle is more important. If you need more info I am happy to provide


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