[dbussone]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

This is beginning to make sense to me. When I have my third Bloody Mary of the morning, I am going to skip the bacon....

That's a fine looking piece of fried something on the top of that low ball glass.

[graciegirl]

What will future generations say about surviving.

Whew, that was close. Those potato chips almost did me in.

Wow, glad to be here, having a turkey sandwich could have been my last act but my insurance is paid up.

I am so sad I survived to see all of us being governed by Isis. Now I wish I had drunk more booze and had more sex.

I survived eating fourteen taco's to perish by being hit by a golf cart in The Villages Florida being driven at an illegal 16 mph.

I survived and I am so glad I did. I ate only lettuce, turnip and pea.

But look what happened to Fred. Dead.

sigh.

[dbussone]

Poor Fred

[DougB]

Freddie's Dead?

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by DougB

Freddie's Dead?

Aw.... may he rest in peace !

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I read that book by Carl Esselstyn and another by his associate, Dean Ornish. I've also read several books by other cardiologists who prescribe almost the exact opposite diet. They also show numerous studies that support their claim that sugar is the cause of most heart problems and that starchy carbs turn into sugar very quickly.
So they evidently know what is causing the problem but they really can't go against the AMA and the ridiculous food pyramid.

All books written about "Diet/Lifestyle Changes" are suspect because people love to hear the latest "no fail" diet.
The authors are writing books to make money; they aren't selflessly trying to make the world a better place to live.
A different approach to diet appears weekly. Some grab more attention than others - Remember The Drinking Man's Diet?
Of course there is no one "right" answer because our bodies and systems are all differently constructed.
Frequently new medical information is discovered and tested.
And frequently the new information "flies in the face" of something we've been told for years.
IMHO, moderation and a supportive circle of friends always works.
I've never seen this concept discouraged by any respected author.
I believe it's the foundation of the Weight Watchers Diet which is still considered to be one of the healthiest and successful diet concepts around.

[Villages PL]

Cleveland Clinic researchers found a link between trimethylamine-N-oxide (TMAO) and cardiovascular disease.

TMAO is produced when you digest choline (found in red meat, eggs and dairy) Those with the highest levels of TMAO had double the risk of death from heart attack and stroke compared to others with the lowest levels.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/he...ease.html?_r=0

[Villages PL]

The link between iron (in red meat) and heart disease:

Iron consumption can increase risk for heart disease, study shows -- ScienceDaily

[Villages PL]

Dean Ornish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lifestyle Heart Trial: "....one year data published in the Lancet in 1990, and
five year data published in the Journal of the American Medical Association,..."

[Villages PL]

Here are some excerpts from his book:

http://www.erasedisease.com/resource...reExcerpts.pdf

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

What will future generations say about surviving.



Whew, that was close. Those potato chips almost did me in.



Wow, glad to be here, having a turkey sandwich could have been my last act but my insurance is paid up.



I am so sad I survived to see all of us being governed by Isis. Now I wish I had drunk more booze and had more sex.



I survived eating fourteen taco's to perish by being hit by a golf cart in The Villages Florida being driven at an illegal 16 mph.



I survived and I am so glad I did. I ate only lettuce, turnip and pea.



But look what happened to Fred. Dead.



sigh.

Tell me that is not the pea in Lake Sum(p)ter Please tell me it ain't so.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am so sad I survived to see all of us being governed by Isis. Now I wish I had drunk more booze and had more sex.

It's not the first time I've heard that said!

[perrjojo]

People to avoid at parties:
Reformed smokers
Reformed drinkers
Reformed junk food addicts
Reformed couch potatoes.

[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

People to avoid at parties:
Reformed smokers
Reformed drinkers
Reformed junk food addicts
Reformed couch potatoes.

Grandparents with photos of their real or fur babies
Amway or Mary Kay reps
My Aunt Jane

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

Grandparents with photos of their real or fur babies
Amway or Mary Kay reps
My Aunt Jane

I thought that was you!

But Aunt Jane had her good qualities. She baked a mean cherry pie!