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Remember heart bypass operations and stints as a treatment for coronary artery disease, when all that was needed was a few dietary changes?

Cancer?

Diabetes?

Arthritis?

The aches and pains of old age?

Knee replacement?

Dementia?
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Your leading sentence is significantly in error. Dietary changes, for many people, will not cure/prevent heart disease. Please provide the scientific basis for this comment.
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Your leading sentence is significantly in error. Dietary changes, for many people, will not cure/prevent heart disease. Please provide the scientific basis for this comment.
When you say "heart disease" are you referring to coronary artery disease?

And when you say "many people" does that mean you also believe that many people can be cured?
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Can You Reverse Heart Disease?

Scroll down to where it says, "Yes, You Can!"
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Remember heart bypass operations and stints as a treatment for coronary artery disease, when all that was needed was a few dietary changes?
Cancer?

Diabetes?

Arthritis?

The aches and pains of old age?

Knee replacement?

Dementia?
I'm not sure a healthy diet works for dementia.
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When you say "heart disease" are you referring to coronary artery disease?

And when you say "many people" does that mean you also believe that many people can be cured?
If you can't respond to my question then don't bother with a response At all please.
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Oh my, here we go again. Just sayin'.
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Can You Reverse Heart Disease?

Scroll down to where it says, "Yes, You Can!"
This is a direct quote from the article you sited above:

"I wouldn’t say you can ‘reverse’ heart disease, because that implies you had something and now you don’t," she says. "You can’t cure heart disease, but you can slow its progression.”
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"I wouldn’t say you can ‘reverse’ heart disease, because that implies you had something and now you don’t," she says. "You can’t cure heart disease, but you can slow its progression.”

Thanks for an objective perspective.
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Your leading sentence is significantly in error. Dietary changes, for many people, will not cure/prevent heart disease. Please provide the scientific basis for this comment.
I read this book (Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease) and found it informative. The author provides links to his own and other medical studies demonstrating that diet can prevent and reverse heart disease in even the most severely heart diseased patients. I'm sure you can google the links to these studies without reading the book. (I don't have them handy or I'd have included them.)


[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Prevent-Reverse-Heart-Disease-Nutrition-Based/dp/1583333002/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431224230&sr=8-1&keywords=prevent+and+reverse+heart+disease]Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven, Nutrition-Based Cure: Caldwell B. Esselstyn Jr.: 9781583333006: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]<-------- click this link to the book

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I read this book (Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease) and found it informative. The author provides links to his own and other medical studies demonstrating that diet can prevent and reverse heart disease in even the most severely heart diseased patients. I'm sure you can google the links to these studies without reading the book. (I don't have them handy or I'd have included them.)


[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Prevent-Reverse-Heart-Disease-Nutrition-Based/dp/1583333002/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431224230&sr=8-1&keywords=prevent+and+reverse+heart+disease]Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven, Nutrition-Based Cure: Caldwell B. Esselstyn Jr.: 9781583333006: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]<-------- click this link to the book
Thanks. I'll take a look.
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This is beginning to make sense to me. When I have my third Bloody Mary of the morning, I am going to skip the bacon....

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I read this book (Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease) and found it informative. The author provides links to his own and other medical studies demonstrating that diet can prevent and reverse heart disease in even the most severely heart diseased patients. I'm sure you can google the links to these studies without reading the book. (I don't have them handy or I'd have included them.)


Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven, Nutrition-Based Cure: Caldwell B. Esselstyn Jr.: 9781583333006: Amazon.com: Books<-------- click this link to the book
I read that book by Carl Esselstyn and another by his associate, Dean Ornish. I've also read several books by other cardiologists who prescribe almost the exact opposite diet. They also show numerous studies that support their claim that sugar is the cause of most heart problems and that starchy carbs turn into sugar very quickly. So who's to know what is right.

The problem with any of these diets is that they are very difficult to stick to. Dean Ornish has actually admitted that. Esselstyn is still says that it is easy to follow his program. personally, I don't agree. I tried it and it takes a lot of willpower and a lot of work to find foods that are OK to eat and to prepare them. People who are advocates of that diet will say that that's not true and they find it easy. So I guess some of us may find it difficult and some may not.

It's funny that the medical establishment still talks about low fat, low protein diets but whenever I visit my doctor and my triglyceride levels are high, the first thing he asks is, "Have you been eating a lot of candy or drinking soda?".
So they evidently know what is causing the problem but they really can't go against the AMA and the ridiculous food pyramid.
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