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Curtisbwp 04-23-2022 01:58 PM

I have a home in Maine. Recreation is legal. I went to a dispensery and was VERY impressed at how clean, efficient and professional it is. First stop was the greeter. Second stop was the advisor, (what do you want it for? Do you want smoke, gummy etc. ) next the cashier, the pharmacist (again very professional) the cost was reasonable. NO card or fee, no doctor. If in Maine give it a try, you will be pleased.

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2087485)
So here we are again. The OP asked for a cheaper way to obtain a medical marijuana card and now we're off on a dissertation distilling a complicated issue to black and white and the criminal justice system. What musical did the song "Johnny One Note" come from???? Is "white" use of weed higher than "black"---probably, but the population of the former is much higher. Are arrests and convictions higher in one group---probably. But is that because of some nefarious plan to "ensnare" minorities---doubt it. Consider that each individual case of drug arrests is different. Perhaps one group has had multiple prior arrests while the other may have more 1st time offenders. Perhaps one group pays for their drugs with dollars and the other bullets. Perhaps the quantities are different. I don't know, but the knee jerk reaction to blame everything on race is not helpful.

The number of people incarcerated for "simple possession" is miniscule...

It's "possession with intent to distribute", or "possession with a firearm (almost always illegally obtained)". They drop the gun charges in order to get a quick "guilty plea" and the prosecutors get to keep that high conviction rate...

Decadeofdave 04-23-2022 04:33 PM

"I called to check my zipcode"

DaddyD 04-23-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 2087421)
Just say no to drugs. Keep your money.

Reality is for people who can't handle drugs. Someone please take my money!

DaleDivine 04-23-2022 09:07 PM

I get some good stuff home grown from a relative.
Shhhh...
:clap2::clap2::clap2:

Woodbear 04-23-2022 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=DaddyD;2087039]I've decided to see a doctor so that I can get a medical marijuana prescription.

Sadly, you will need to say good bye to any guns or ammunition in your possession once you get assigned a medical marijuana script/card.

retiredguy123 04-23-2022 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kathy1516 (Post 2087665)
First of all, your primary physician is involved and has to document that you have medical issues that would qualify you for the benefits of marajuana. You don’t just walk into a marajuana clinic signing up for it. Yes, it is expensive, but it’s also safer as you have no idea what the kid at the school yard is selling..

Not true

retiredguy123 04-23-2022 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyD (Post 2087039)
I've decided to see a doctor so that I can get a medical marijuana prescription.

Sadly, you will need to say good bye to any guns or ammunition in your possession once you get assigned a medical marijuana script/card.

Huh? Not true

Woodbear 04-24-2022 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2087930)
Huh? Not true

100% true. Know the laws. Medical Marijuana user cannot ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms or ammunition.


MEDICAL MARIJUANA

Federal law prohibits medical marijuana users from possessing or buying firearms and ammunition — even if state law allows the drug’s use. An individual can’t have both licenses. Under federal law, any marijuana user is an unlawful user of a controlled substance. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld this rule. Marijuana in any form is illegal under federal law. Users of marijuana are prohibited persons. Checking ‘no’ on question 11(e) on the Form 4473 would be a lie if you use marijuana, which is a federal offense. See this ATF letter on the topic.

Educate yourself and read the direct letter from the ATF:

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/op...poses/download

retiredguy123 04-24-2022 05:10 AM

[QUOTE=Woodbear;2087942]
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2087937)

100% true. Know the laws. Medical Marijuana user cannot ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms or ammunition.


MEDICAL MARIJUANA

Federal law prohibits medical marijuana users from possessing or buying firearms and ammunition — even if state law allows the drug’s use. An individual can’t have both licenses. Under federal law, any marijuana user is an unlawful user of a controlled substance. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld this rule. Marijuana in any form is illegal under federal law. Users of marijuana are prohibited persons. Checking ‘no’ on question 11(e) on the Form 4473 would be a lie if you use marijuana, which is a federal offense. See this ATF letter on the topic.

Educate yourself and read the direct letter from the ATF:

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/op...poses/download

Legally, you are correct, although the question on the current Form 4473 is No. 21E.

However, a GAO report in 2018 recommended that the ATF start to issue warnings instead of prosecutions. In their report, they said that, in 2017, of the 8.6 million Federal background checks for gun purchases, there were 112,000 denials, and only 12 prosecutions. So, the chances of being prosecuted for violating the Federal marijuana laws is pretty close to zero.

JMintzer 04-24-2022 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2087930)
Sadly, you will need to say good bye to any guns or ammunition in your possession once you get assigned a medical marijuana script/card.

Where did you get that incorrect information?

Kahuna32162 04-24-2022 09:29 AM

[QUOTE=Woodbear;2087930]
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Originally Posted by DaddyD (Post 2087039)
I've decided to see a doctor so that I can get a medical marijuana prescription.

Sadly, you will need to say good bye to any guns or ammunition in your possession once you get assigned a medical marijuana script/card.

Where do you come up with CRAP like this? Blatantly NOT TRUE.

tophcfa 04-24-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2087930)

Where do you come up with CRAP like this? Blatantly NOT TRUE.

Actually, I think it depends on which state one gets their Medical Card from. Some states elect to share their database of cardholders with the Feds and others don’t. I talked to our towns chief of police about this before I got my medical card because I didn’t want to lose my ability to hunt. The chief of police in my northern town is responsible for processing firearms licenses. He told me not to worry about it, he has a card also, and our state doesn’t share the database with the Feds.

retiredguy123 04-24-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kahuna32162 (Post 2088117)

Actually, I think it depends on which state one gets their Medical Card from. Some states elect to share their database of cardholders with the Feds and others don’t. I talked to our towns chief of police about this before I got my medical card because I didn’t want to lose my ability to hunt. The chief of police in my northern town is responsible for processing firearms licenses. He told me not to worry about it, he has a card also, and our state doesn’t share the database with the Feds.

Even if some states share their Marijuana database with the Feds, it appears that the Feds are not using those databases to deny gun purchase applicants on the Federal background check. Only about one percent of applications are denied, and most of those are for felony convictions, documented drug addictions, or errors on the form.

karostay 04-24-2022 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2087175)
Do you not have a regular doctor. I could probably get one for my health but have no desire. Have never used it for anything.

Your regular DR can't prescribe MMJ
They would lose their license.
Under government guide lines its still a band substance.

BCBword 04-24-2022 11:23 AM

In Florida, is it legal to grow a few plants for personal use?

retiredguy123 04-24-2022 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BCBword (Post 2088153)
In Florida, is it legal to grow a few plants for personal use?

No.

Woodbear 04-24-2022 11:32 AM

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Where did you get that incorrect information?

You spelled the word "correct" wrong

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/op...poses/download

Woodbear 04-24-2022 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2087930)

Where do you come up with CRAP like this? Blatantly NOT TRUE.

100% true. The ATF has never changed their stance on the topic

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/op...poses/download

Woodbear 04-24-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2087942)
Legally, you are correct, although the question on the current Form 4473 is No. 21E.

However, a GAO report in 2018 recommended that the ATF start to issue warnings instead of prosecutions. In their report, they said that, in 2017, of the 8.6 million Federal background checks for gun purchases, there were 112,000 denials, and only 12 prosecutions. So, the chances of being prosecuted for violating the Federal marijuana laws is pretty close to zero.

Guess it is up to your risk tolerance. It is illegal to cheat on your taxes, some still do. Federal law trumps state law when it comes to marijuana and firearms.

Caymus 04-24-2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2087961)

Guess it is up to your risk tolerance. It is illegal to cheat on your taxes, some still do. Federal law trumps state law when it comes to marijuana and firearms.


Aren't all cannabis sales illegal under Federal law? I think about 20 states have so far "legalize" the sale.

Woodbear 04-24-2022 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2088166)


Aren't all cannabis sales illegal under Federal law? I think about 20 states have so far "legalize" the sale.

I am not sure how the Federal government views state sales. But under ATF Form 4473 you have the option to tell the truth or be deceitful. By having a medical marijuana card, you have identified yourself as a user. In all my years of selling firearms and being on the Board of Directors of shooting clubs, I have never seen a person who answered YES to question 21E be allowed to proceed with a transaction.

We are all dignified with the ability to make our own decisions. How one uses their free will is a choice only they can decide. When it comes to firearms and ammunition, there is no gray area. If you are considered a "user" you are not legally allowed to own firearms or ammunition.

retiredguy123 04-24-2022 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2088166)


Aren't all cannabis sales illegal under Federal law? I think about 20 states have so far "legalize" the sale.

Apparently, there is a defect in the TOTV website. In Post No. 61, the post attributed to me was not posted by me.

tophcfa 04-24-2022 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Caymus;2088203]
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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2088166)


Aren't all cannabis sales illegal under Federal law? I think about 20 states have so far "legalize" the sale.

It is illegal under federal law, but they generally look the other way and leave it up to each state. However, one of the biggest obstacles facing the industry is that banks, which are FDIC chartered, won’t lend to businesses in the industry, whether it be growing, distribution, or product testing. That lack of financing essentially leaves the industry dominated by already cash rich entrepreneurs who can foot the substantial up front cost to enter the industry and essentially prohibits the small guy from participating in the high growth industry. It’s only a matter of time before a newer generation of politicians are the majority and cannabis becomes legal both Federally and by State throughout the county. Both the pharmaceutical and alcohol industry are cringing at the prospect as both industries will see their sales decline when consumers have viable options to their products.

JMintzer 04-24-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RetiredGuy123
Apparently, there is a defect in the TOTV website. In Post No. 61, the post attributed to me was not posted by me.

User error...

Tom&JenC 06-06-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2087335)
Decriminalization is supported by a majority of adults in every single state in the country. The US House this year passed a decriminalization bill by 220 to 204. Of the 220 votes to decriminalize, 217 came from one party and 3 from the other. Keeping pot illegal is good for the private prison industry and gives law enforcement another tool to ensnare minorities. White use of weed is equal or higher than Black use. But arrests and convictions are higher in Black people. Wonder why that would be? Nothing to see here, move along.

Its because white people keep it on the DL. No clouds of smoke coming out of cars, not smelling like a weed field at McDonalds, Just get home with it and keep it there. Its pretty easy not to get snagged, if you ask me. Especially when your our age, have your paperwork in order, make small talk with the cop, just say you got a kid entering the Academy back home in Indiana or whatever. They don't want to screw with old timers that aren't criminals

Topspinmo 06-06-2022 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maybelle (Post 2087511)
You obviously don't suffer from chronic pain. I have tried many pain relievers, OTC and prescribed. Not a good outcome from most. I'm trying medical marijuana to see if it works. You sound like Nancy Reagan.

Or habit.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-06-2022 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aallbrand (Post 2087593)
This is what I have learned since getting my card. The word Doctor is a joke when it comes to this subject. Use products at your own risk. The Doctors and the state are only in it for the money. There is no science or real quality control behind the safety. The so called quality controls are independent labs hired by the the manufacturer.

The fox is in charge of the Hen house.

The State of Florida (Governor, et al) has determined that this is how cannabis will be legally distributed in Florida. Fees are paid to the government, per order of the government. And the doctor gets his fees paid as well because why should he give his services away?

It's a racket, for sure. But it's a racket created, mandated, and imposed by the government of the state, not by the doctors.

If it was legal, there would be no doctors giving out medical cards because you could just go to the store and buy it, no card necessary. It'd be taxed, and the state would STILL get money. But they make more this way. Plus they can keep tabs on you just in case they change their mind.

If you have a problem with the doctors charging so much, so often, then take it up with the Governor. He's the one who signed the laws.

You can't even grow it for your own use, though it's been brought up several times in state legislature. The state doesn't want you growing it, because the state can't make money that way.


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