Originally Posted by lovsthosebigdogs (Post 711009)

Villages PL, you may not have said it in THIS post, but having read most of your posts since I signed on to TOTV I feel I am familiar with your style of post and writing and I too feel you often attribute whatever goes wrong with people to their diet. If that's not true then maybe it's something you don't mean, but it appears that I am not the only one who gets that impression.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 711055)

Let me explain how this post came about. I read the other thread "stories about knee replacements". I thought it was a helpful thread but there was no talk about what causes knees to wear out. And I didn't want to hijack that thread by changing the subject. So I decided to start this thread.

I have some knowledge of this subject but decided that it would be a good idea to provide a link as a backup. I should have provided two links because not all of the causes are on one link. The link I provided mentioned arthritis in paragraph 3, obesity and knee injuries in paragraph 5. I believe another link would have provided the rest including something about diet. I'll see if I can find it again.

I hesitate to explain my philosophy on diet because it's not easy to explain. Should I try again? And if I do, will anyone bother to remember? No, I don't think so because it's easier to slap a label on someone as being all this or all that.

If you like, I can make a general statement: Most degenerative diseases are caused by lifestyle. How's that? Will that do it?




Okay, good, we know what it's not.



A family history could likely mean a predisposition. Lifting and carrying a handicapped child could very likely be the cause. Wouldn't that essentially be the same as being a heavier person? If you're a small size woman carrying a heavy child, I don't see that as being good for your knee joints. As I have suggested, wear 'n' tear is wear 'n' tear, regardless of how it comes about. For some it's athletics, for some it's their job, and for some it's being heavy or carrying someone heavy.



And what reason do you feel I left out? The fact that you were lifting someone heavy? It still comes under the heading of "pressure on the knee joints" whether you are overweight or whether you are carrying someone heavy.




I never said it wasn't true. I simply said I lived in the north-east and hadn't heard of it.

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 711128)

Your mea culpa is too late. You've insulted so many people's intelligence over numerous posts of yours with your high and mighty attitude.

I can relate to the lady above.......hers was an intelligent post.

You have no way of knowing our friends who were health fanatics and still died of cancer..........nor knowing our son who was born without a groove to support his knee, as per his orthopedic surgeon who told him he would be a likely candidate for "adult onset arthritis".........not all arthritis is caused by food.

You have a very narrow way of looking at things.....sad to say.

We've lived a long life.....had a successful marriage of almost fifty years and raised healthy active intelligent children who are likewise raising their own healthy active intelligent children (our grandchildren).

We always had tons of food in the home and yet these adult kids of ours and all of their teenaged and college aged friends would choose the healthy foods and still do...........they are physically active and world travelers..........not living some narrow life "assuming" what others eat.

They do not eat energy bars. You always insinuate that everyone eats energy bars that is athletic.
How do you know this? Are you psychic?

Rather than energy bars, they eat moderately from all food groups........portion control and choosing wisely what they consume.

Osteo arthritis is not caused by food.

Rheumatoid arthritis is not caused by food. It's an auto immune disease.
Are you a doctor? I doubt it.

You should get yourself a television set for some wider contact with the outside world........and a big glass of PRUNE JUICE.

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 710473)

Meeting a friend for a beer might be just as healthy as a second game of Pickleball! :beer3:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 711128)

Your mea culpa is too late. You've insulted so many people's intelligence over numerous posts of yours with your high and mighty attitude.

I can relate to the lady above.......hers was an intelligent post.

You have no way of knowing our friends who were health fanatics and still died of cancer..........nor knowing our son who was born without a groove to support his knee, as per his orthopedic surgeon who told him he would be a likely candidate for "adult onset arthritis".........not all arthritis is caused by food.

You have a very narrow way of looking at things.....sad to say.

We've lived a long life.....had a successful marriage of almost fifty years and raised healthy active intelligent children who are likewise raising their own healthy active intelligent children (our grandchildren).

We always had tons of food in the home and yet these adult kids of ours and all of their teenaged and college aged friends would choose the healthy foods and still do...........they are physically active and world travelers..........not living some narrow life "assuming" what others eat.

They do not eat energy bars. You always insinuate that everyone eats energy bars that is athletic.
How do you know this? Are you psychic?

Rather than energy bars, they eat moderately from all food groups........portion control and choosing wisely what they consume.

Osteo arthritis is not caused by food.

Rheumatoid arthritis is not caused by food. It's an auto immune disease.
Are you a doctor? I doubt it.

You should get yourself a television set for some wider contact with the outside world........and a big glass of PRUNE JUICE.

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 711187)

SC ... I wish your post would be allowed to remain by the Admins. I think it might possibly be helpful if VP could understand how his posts are sometimes perceived by others as disparaging rather than helpful. 'Keeping It Real' wrote a post yesterday in a similar vein and it was deleted.

I think Villages PL has good intentions. I do. He has offended so many readers with his 'one-trick pony' theories. But I think he is genuinely trying to be helpful. I honestly don't think he understands that his comments can be construed as preaching and bragging.

Oh well. We could all use the Ignore function. But I just keep posting the same kind of comments myself, so perhaps I'm also a one-trick pony. I keep talking about a balanced life, about enjoying food and wine in moderation, about how having friends and contributing to the community also can lead to greater happiness and a happier and more fulfilling life.

Time to move on to happier threads. As my mom used to say "Least said, soonest mended".

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 711203)

But over time all that beer drinking could cause U to need an elbow replacement :1rotfl: