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coffeebean 01-12-2022 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2045910)
So, you go to CVS and take your test. Two days later, you receive your results and they indicate "Negative." Two days ago, after testing you go shopping at Publix and stop to chat with a friend you bumped into. That friend was infected. You receive your test results in the mail today indicating that you are "negative" for covid. That was two days ago. So, you brag to everyone that you tested "negative" so you can do whatever you wish, including going on a cruise. The cruise folks read your negative test results and allow you to board the ship, along with thousands of others that had their tests two days prior. Guess what?
In order to start working at a job they require a negative test. You received your test from two days prior testing and start work today. For the last two days, you stopped to chat with a neighbor that was walking her dog. You also went grocery shopping. You went out to dinner with some friends. You started work today after being tested two days ago. Guess what?
Testing negative is only good for the time you were tested, minutes before being in contact with anyone else that may be infected.
My opinion is that Covid testing is only good as a diagnostic for doctors to know what to treat, just like testing for the Flu or TB, etc.

I totally agree with you!!!

Covid testing is "point in time". Unless you isolate yourself right after your test, only then you can be assured you remain Covid negative. Sure.....go ahead and isolate. But......you must remain in isolation to be assured you continue to be Covid negative or never ever go out in public unless wearing a mask that will protect you. Those N95 and KN95 masks are the best protective masks we've got. And......that means that you can not eat or drink in public either. Who wants to do that?

Some people agree and some disagree with this but.............IMHO, the best thing to do to protect ourselves at this point is to be vaccinated and boosted. Furthermore, get as many boosters as is necessary to keep us from being hospitalized from what ever virus mutation of the day is circulating out there.

Good luck!

billethkid 01-12-2022 09:53 AM

When I hear the words of glee from neighbors that they tested negative, I reply........great for today, what about tomorrow?

coffeebean 01-12-2022 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2046034)
So......are you suggesting that every person test twice a day, EVERY DAY or be considered "selfish"????

Yup....that is what it is coming down to. LOL. People still do not understand those Covid tests are POINT IN TIME. You might as well test every day or remain in isolation for the rest of your born days.

POINT IN TIME people!!!!!!!!

coffeebean 01-12-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by maistocars (Post 2046063)
and then you realized Parse, that it was the other way around. Latest data out of Ontario, Canada shows over 70% of those in hospitals are vaxxed. Unfortunately, we don't keep those stats (we can see why now). SOURCE: COVID-19 vaccinations data | COVID-19 (coronavirus) in Ontario

Are those 70% hospitalized with Covid or because of Covid? Same old, same old, right? What about.....how many of those 70% hospitalized are not boosted? How many of those 70% are not fully vaccinated? How many of those 70% are immunocompromised and the vaccines did not offer them full protection if any? Those stats need to be accompanied by more data to fully understand what is really going on.

golfing eagles 01-12-2022 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2048879)
Are those 70% hospitalized with Covid or because of Covid? Same old, same old, right? What about.....how many of those 70% hospitalized are not boosted? How many of those 70% are not fully vaccinated? How many of those 70% are immunocompromised and the vaccines did not offer them full protection if any? Those stats need to be accompanied by more data to fully understand what is really going on.

And then add in the simple numbers factor-----the higher the percentage of the population that is vaccinated, the higher the number of "so-called cases" in the vaccinated group. When (and it will be never) 100% of the population is vaccinated, then 100% of the "cases" will be among the "vaxxed". Of course, in that case, the total number of hospitalized "cases" will be very low

coffeebean 01-12-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MidWestIA (Post 2046264)
The need is to know if you are safe to be by people who can't or won't vaccinate but you almost need to do it the same day. Radio story about researchers going to a antarctic remote location tested and quarantined for 9? days and still got covid there. They said a test a couple days ago means nothing

Those who refuse to vaccinate......I don't give a damn about protecting them.

Those who can't vaccinate..............they need to PROTECT THEMSELVES from me and anyone else they come in contact with.

Sedwards45 01-12-2022 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

BECAUSE those younger than 5 cannot be vaccinated. Uncommonly high number of children are being hospitalized due to COVID! If you HAVE cold or allergy symptoms and may be around young children, you need to get tested for their safety.

coffeebean 01-12-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2046283)
They in most cases are trying to protect their loved ones , co-workers and their community by being tested to know whether to
Quarantine.

Well......they should just stay in quarantine for that matter.

My new mantra..........Covid testing is POINT IN TIME.

coffeebean 01-12-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Janis Kaiser (Post 2046315)
The reason for Covid test is so that you don’t spread it if you have it.this a virus that stays in your body forever and may come out at a later time in a way we are not aware of. You also have long haulers and people that have residual effects for weeks and this you don’t get with the flu.
Because this is not the flu
Or just a cold. Also if you don’t feel well you must get tested so you don’t spread it to other people. If you spread this to immune compromised people or people with underlying conditions they may end up in the hospital or worse death. Testing prevents spreading. Children are now getting Covid with the new strain many of these children are ending up in the hospital. Remember this virus stays in your body and can manifest itself in many other ways later on. One small example is the chickenpox virus and then shingles. Do you have Covid hopefully testing well prove that and you will be considerate of your friends family and neighbors quarantine for a few days when you go out wearing mask please stop close talk or sit at a dining table even outside for a while.
I’m not saying don’t go shopping or go out just don’t get close to people Please wear a mask to protect other people because you don’t know what their health situation is. Even if you do think it’s like the flu that could also kill someone who has underlying health condition or is immune compromised.

Really? I did not know this. YIKES. It is like Varicella? Where did you get this information? I would like to know. Please supply a link.

coffeebean 01-12-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2046324)
Ridiculous. If you dont feel well, stay away from others. No need for a test. A test doesnt change ONE.SINGLE.THING. about how you should react. Simple as that.
Sick? Stay home. You most certainly do not need testing. You need self imposed quarantine.

Totally agree. We are supposed to quarantine for 5 days then wear a good grade mask in public for another 5 days if we test positive. I know that is a hassle and most people would want to know if their illness is actually Covid so there is that.

There is also the other end of the spectrum........This is a very sad situation and one I am very upset about. People can be dirt bags you know..........

Grandmother Dies From COVID After Friend With Virus Didn't Tell Anyone | Health.com

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-12-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2048890)
Well......they should just stay in quarantine for that matter.

My new mantra..........Covid testing is POINT IN TIME.

It isn't "point in time." It's "recent, up to point in time."

It means you haven't had COVID RECENTLY. How recent? Well if you tested 5 days ago negative, and you test today negative, it means you have been negative for the past 5 days, UP TO now.

That means everyone YOU were in contact with, within the past 5 days, doesn't have to worry that you might have infected them.

That's a pretty significant monkey off someone's back, if they're visiting relatives who might be at risk.

Does this mean everyone should test every 5 days? I don't think so. But it does mean that if you are planning on visiting people you care about, then testing 5 days before you leave, and then the day before you leave, might not be a bad idea.

coffeebean 01-12-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2046326)
And 10 minutes after their test, while going to the grocery store, they could contract covid... And never know it...

Agree. Covid tests are POINT IN TIME. There.......I said it again!!!

kcrazorbackfan 01-12-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

Sheeples following the directions of other idiots; probably the idiots that wouldn’t get the vaccine.

golfing eagles 01-12-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Janis Kaiser (Post 2046315)
The reason for Covid test is so that you don’t spread it if you have it.this a virus that stays in your body forever and may come out at a later time in a way we are not aware of. You also have long haulers and people that have residual effects for weeks and this you don’t get with the flu.
Because this is not the flu
Or just a cold. Also if you don’t feel well you must get tested so you don’t spread it to other people. If you spread this to immune compromised people or people with underlying conditions they may end up in the hospital or worse death. Testing prevents spreading. Children are now getting Covid with the new strain many of these children are ending up in the hospital. Remember this virus stays in your body and can manifest itself in many other ways later on. One small example is the chickenpox virus and then shingles. Do you have Covid hopefully testing well prove that and you will be considerate of your friends family and neighbors quarantine for a few days when you go out wearing mask please stop close talk or sit at a dining table even outside for a while.
I’m not saying don’t go shopping or go out just don’t get close to people Please wear a mask to protect other people because you don’t know what their health situation is. Even if you do think it’s like the flu that could also kill someone who has underlying health condition or is immune compromised.

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2046337)
Where did you ever get THAT idea?????? COVID (a coronavirus) is NOT Varicella (a herpes virus)

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Originally Posted by Janis Kaiser (Post 2046375)
I have personal medical and accurate knowledge of what I said. I am so sorry I ever posted anything on this site. Never thinking these responses would be so unkind and hateful. Now I feel I need to defend myself from ridiculous accusations. I am a good and honorable person and I was just trying to relay information which was told to me By a medical profession I wish my name never appeared on this and I am trying to delete Everything

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2046434)
As far as I am concerned, I didn't post anything "hateful", or "unkind", I simply stated that you were factually wrong. And if your misinformation was relayed to you by a "medical professional", I'd love to have a chat with that person. Half the problems with this pandemic start with totally inaccurate posts on social media, as well as hype promulgated by politicians and the media

PS: Personal knowledge, I'll take your word for it. Accurate---not so much. Sorry, but that is simply the medical facts, nothing "hateful" or "unkind" about it.

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2048892)
Really? I did not know this. YIKES. It is like Varicella? Where did you get this information? I would like to know. Please supply a link.

As you can see, I don't think your inquiry to that person will go any further than mine.
PS--were you hateful and unkind:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:?????

coffeebean 01-12-2022 10:45 AM

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