Why is there, such a "need" by so many to get covid tested....

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So omicron is a highly contagious as the measles was, so just figure your going to get it. Good thing is it is milder and has no lung component. Aches, fever 102, chills , etc like flu. Lasts 3-5 days. Good news this variant will build up antibodies against delta the more deadly version. So why test you either got or you don’t, so test is pointless now.
Long Covid and re-infection are several reasons why it is better to NOT get CV than to get a mild case. Asymptomatic positive tested people now KNOW that they should avoid contaminating other people by quarantining and waiting until getting a negative PCR test.
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Old 01-21-2022, 07:43 PM
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Most of the responses are against testing and for many good reasons. I would have heartedly agreed 2 days ago. As of yesterday I still agree, however, not to the same degree. Yesterday I was feeling like crap. I had a stuffy runny nose, coughing, sneezing, a slight headache and a slight back ache. I happen to have 2 BinaxNOW tests kits which I bought a few months ago. So I opened one and did the test. I was expecting a negative result – probably a cold or maybe some flu symptoms. No such luck it came up positive. I immediately texted my doctor to see what, if anything, I should do. He has not, as yet, gotten back to me. I will take the second test next Saturday to see if it comes up negative. In the meantime, given that I know I have it I won’t be running around spreading it. Yesterday the symptoms were mild, not so much last night. I didn’t get any sleep as it was difficult breathing with my stuffed up nostrils and my temperature fluctuated between 99 and 102. And yes, I had both Pfizer shots and the booster. So yes, I do agree that most of this testing hysteria is uncalled for but there are a few instances where it may be prudent.
Dr Blue ash has an excellent post recently on interpreting rapid tests. The positive test is about 98% reliable. So, likely that the test was correct. When taking the next test IF it is NEGATIVE do NOT be very elated - a NEGATIVE result has a HIGH likelihood of being FALSE. The 2 different results are NOT the same as to their reliability, which becomes a little hard to wrap one's head around. But, it is VERY important.
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Everything is about money but that is the system we have now. Unless we change it, it will always be about money. You have a solution for this?
A partial solution IS that it has been proven through psychological studies that the DO er of a good deed receives a reward in the form of chemical endorphins that promote health and happiness.
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And don't forget that the CDC now says you can test positive for up to 12 weeks AFTER you had Covid. Even if you had an asymptomatic case...
Various people have different .....everything DNA, healthy lifestyle, etc, etc. Add to that they could be exposed to different amounts of CV. So, because of variables like that, I would STAY quarantined UNTIL I got an all-clear negative PCR test out of empathy for others. Without a respect for others we, in the US will be doomed to fighting more and different varieties of CV. This means ....get vaccinated AND boosted. I believe that Israel is going to TWO boosters. The US does NOT have the countrywide unification and empathy to finish off this CV monster.
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Old 01-22-2022, 08:39 AM
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This will give a great boost to fear, control and fear. Control
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Prior infection wears off more quickly than actual vaccines. It also can lead to a FALSE sense of being immune. And little is known about "long haul" CV. I will go with the shots and boosters.....thank you very much!
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Why do you insist on posting incorrect information with absolutely no sources to back it up?

The most recent data:

Natural immunity more potent than vaccines during US Delta wave: study
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Sigh...

Why do you insist on posting incorrect information with absolutely no sources to back it up?

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Natural immunity more potent than vaccines during US Delta wave: study

Hey Doc, is it possible that when one poster has many consecutive posts, taking up a couple of pages, that he/she may have a new symptom of Covid? Just asking for a friend...
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Hey Doc, is it possible that when one poster has many consecutive posts, taking up a couple of pages, that he/she may have a new symptom of Covid? Just asking for a friend...
Oh, it's a symptom of something, that's for sure... I'll leave that for other "specialists" to determine...
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I don't understand why anyone would want to be tested. Either you are sick or not, and I think I can tell the difference without a test.
Asymptomatic people CARRY the virus - they CARRY it to Grandma and Grandpa in TV Land and give them a dangerous DISEASE. Happy trails Grandpa from your devoted Grandson. Also to UNvaccinated children under 5 and they could get a lifetime of "long haul" CV (that would be a tough life). And ALL because some people did NOT WANT to be tested because everything is ONLY about themselves!
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and then you realized Parse, that it was the other way around. Latest data out of Ontario, Canada shows over 70% of those in hospitals are vaxxed. Unfortunately, we don't keep those stats (we can see why now). SOURCE: COVID-19 vaccinations data | COVID-19 (coronavirus) in Ontario
Wow! I see a major MIS-interpretation of this Ontario Data. It is true that 70% of all patients in that Hospital are VACCINATED. And that in the ICU 50% of the patients are VACCINATED. But, that IS misleading and not the full story to be told. Ontario, in that same article, has 89% of its total POPULATION vaccinated. So, to be accurate the denominator needs to be PER population, like PER 100,000. You can intuitively see that with a big 90% of Ontario being VACCINATED that when you do a comparison between who is vaccinated and total IN THE HOSPITAL, that because so many Ontarians are VACCINATED that a large % of them would make up patients in the Hospital. If vaccinations WERE NOT effective then 89% of the patients in the Hospital would likely be VACCINATED.
......BOTTOM LINE - that article and those graphs ACTUALLY show the opposite of what was said in that erroneous post. One just has to be observant as to what the divisor is in the fraction (that becomes the percentage). Better luck next time!
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Makes me glad I don't live in Canada at the moment. It looks like they are heading into another three weeks of no indoor dining at restaurants.

With over 90% of their teens and older vaccinated, it is little surprise that the people the virus finds to infect are primarily vaccinated - there just aren't many unvaccinated people left.

It looks like there are a little less than 100 cases for every 100,000 people in Ontario, CA. In Florida the number is currently 263 with a bullet. Whether it is their high vaccination rate or their restrictions, something seems to be working for Ontario.
In the 2nd paragraph, you are considering the denominator of the fraction. That is where the confusion is occurring. Think instead about what the denominator SHOULD be. The 3rd paragraph reveals the OVERALL truth - that Ontario
is doing better (MUCH better) with hospital cases TOTAL than the US is. And we know this also from news reports!
.....It IS the US, not Ontario where the hospitals are going to emergency Do Not Resuscitate policies.
.....And some will say that Florida does NOT have DNR policies. To which, I will say that I hope it stays that way, but Fl. is NOT as cold as northern US state's hospitals where the DNRs are in effect. And "it is NOT over til it's over"!
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Exactly. The best comment I saw on TV was by a taxi driver at JFK who had an IQ of about 70. He said, right on day one of omicron being discovered in S. Africa, that we are kidding ourselves if we think it isn't here already when it is first "discovered" over there, and even more delusional if we think we are going to contain it. Too bad the experts are practicing politics (while the population is slowly getting stoned, to borrow a line from Billy Joel)
"Who had an IQ of about 70" ???? An Important detail ??????
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And you still believe the media?
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And 10 minutes after their test, while going to the grocery store, they could contract covid... And never know it...
Marine 74 said after getting a positive test.... to go into quarantine. A person in QUARANTINE does NOT go shopping in a store. As far as I know......they get food delivered or order an item on Amazon Prime.
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Of course it’s not shingles. I was using an example of any virus in your body can come out later on and manifest itself in some other form. Like mononucleosis may may come back as Epstein bar virus.
Wait are women still allowed to be smart in the US. I thought we had become "The Hand Maidens' Tale"!
......that was just a joke.......seriously, good intelligent post ......keep that up!
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