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Old 03-18-2016, 09:19 AM
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According to the written rules on page 3 of the Recreation News, Open Play is for those of you who would prefer to play on your own. However, according to the recreation department via a couple of lengthy phone calls, if you are playing during OPEN PLAY and someone else wants to play with you, you MUST let them play in the next game regardless of their level of play. I personally believe this contradicts the written description of open play. My point is this: My friends and I organized a water volleyball game to play on our own days in advance. We were the only ones in the pool when a couple walked in and wanted to insert themselves into our group which was already full. We indicated this was open play time and we here to play on our own. They insisted that they had taken a water volleyball class and went on and on about how we were required to let them play. This would mean that some of us would have to sit out. Per our interpretation of the written description of open play we thought they were wrong and continued our play. I personally canít imagine trying to force myself on someone enjoying themselves in a private game, but they were so intent on interrupting what was obviously friends having a good time that they went crying to the facilities manager who sent her people out and told us we had to let them play. We only had 20 minutes left anyway so we decided to leave which left the courts completely empty and no one got to enjoy the facilities. Based on the recreation department's verbal rules, if two couples are the only people playing pickleball, or you and your wife are playing shuffleboard or whatever sport, and a person walks up and says I would like to play in the next game, one of you is required to sit out and let this person play regardless of their level of play. I am not really concerned about it happening again because I believe very few people would insist on forcing themselves on a few friends having a good time. In all the years my friends and I have been using open play time for various activities this was a first. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

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Old 03-18-2016, 12:26 PM
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According to the written rules on page 3 of the Recreation News, Open Play is for those of you who would prefer to play on your own. However, according to the recreation department via a couple of lengthy phone calls, if you are playing during OPEN PLAY and someone else wants to play with you, you MUST let them play in the next game regardless of their level of play. I personally believe this contradicts the written description of open play. My point is this: My friends and I organized a water volleyball game to play on our own days in advance. We were the only ones in the pool when a couple walked in and wanted to insert themselves into our group which was already full. We indicated this was open play time and we here to play on our own. They insisted that they had taken a water volleyball class and went on and on about how we were required to let them play. This would mean that some of us would have to sit out. Per our interpretation of the written description of open play we thought they were wrong and continued our play. I personally canít imagine trying to force myself on someone enjoying themselves in a private game, but they were so intent on interrupting what was obviously friends having a good time that they went crying to the facilities manager who sent her people out and told us we had to let them play. We only had 20 minutes left anyway so we decided to leave which left the courts completely empty and no one got to enjoy the facilities. Based on the recreation department's verbal rules, if two couples are the only people playing pickleball, or you and your wife are playing shuffleboard or whatever sport, and a person walks up and says I would like to play in the next game, one of you is required to sit out and let this person play regardless of their level of play. I am not really concerned about it happening again because I believe very few people would insist on forcing themselves on a few friends having a good time. In all the years my friends and I have been using open play time for various activities this was a first. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
After all of that, you summed it up very well.
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:22 AM
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I see that this is your first post.

So, let see if I have this right. A rec center person informed you as to the meaning and purpose of the open play periods. But, you would prefer to make your own interpretation and host a private game. I foresee future conflicts.

Open play is an opportunity to meet and interact with your neighbors. This is especially nice for new residents who would like to meet others that have similar interests, like water volleyball.
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:59 AM
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Was there a posted courtesy rule to allow others the opportunity to play, as per the written rules on page 3?

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According to the written rules on page 3 of the Recreation News, Open Play is for those of you who would prefer to play on your own. However, according to the recreation department via a couple of lengthy phone calls, if you are playing during OPEN PLAY and someone else wants to play with you, you MUST let them play in the next game regardless of their level of play. I personally believe this contradicts the written description of open play. My point is this: My friends and I organized a water volleyball game to play on our own days in advance. We were the only ones in the pool when a couple walked in and wanted to insert themselves into our group which was already full. We indicated this was open play time and we here to play on our own. They insisted that they had taken a water volleyball class and went on and on about how we were required to let them play. This would mean that some of us would have to sit out. Per our interpretation of the written description of open play we thought they were wrong and continued our play. I personally canít imagine trying to force myself on someone enjoying themselves in a private game, but they were so intent on interrupting what was obviously friends having a good time that they went crying to the facilities manager who sent her people out and told us we had to let them play. We only had 20 minutes left anyway so we decided to leave which left the courts completely empty and no one got to enjoy the facilities. Based on the recreation department's verbal rules, if two couples are the only people playing pickleball, or you and your wife are playing shuffleboard or whatever sport, and a person walks up and says I would like to play in the next game, one of you is required to sit out and let this person play regardless of their level of play. I am not really concerned about it happening again because I believe very few people would insist on forcing themselves on a few friends having a good time. In all the years my friends and I have been using open play time for various activities this was a first. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
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Old 03-19-2016, 01:23 PM
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Open play is specifically spelled out as "for those of you who prefer to play an activity on your own. No courts are reserved, but are available on a first-ome-first-served basis" as stated on page 3 of the recreation news. If you are new and want to meet new people you would go to organized play where they place you on a different team everyday and you play with different people every day.

There was no courtesy rule posted. I specifically asked that they post one if their rules were going to differ from other pools.
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Old 03-19-2016, 02:25 PM
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Even if there was no courtesy rule posted it would seem to me that it is basic human decency to let a fellow villager play if he asked. The "interlopers" in question have paid their amenity fees just like you did. You did not own that pool during the open play.
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Old 03-19-2016, 02:48 PM
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According to the written rules on page 3 of the Recreation News, Open Play is for those of you who would prefer to play on your own. However, according to the recreation department via a couple of lengthy phone calls, if you are playing during OPEN PLAY and someone else wants to play with you, you MUST let them play in the next game regardless of their level of play. I personally believe this contradicts the written description of open play. My point is this: My friends and I organized a water volleyball game to play on our own days in advance. We were the only ones in the pool when a couple walked in and wanted to insert themselves into our group which was already full. We indicated this was open play time and we here to play on our own. They insisted that they had taken a water volleyball class and went on and on about how we were required to let them play. This would mean that some of us would have to sit out. Per our interpretation of the written description of open play we thought they were wrong and continued our play. I personally canít imagine trying to force myself on someone enjoying themselves in a private game, but they were so intent on interrupting what was obviously friends having a good time that they went crying to the facilities manager who sent her people out and told us we had to let them play. We only had 20 minutes left anyway so we decided to leave which left the courts completely empty and no one got to enjoy the facilities. Based on the recreation department's verbal rules, if two couples are the only people playing pickleball, or you and your wife are playing shuffleboard or whatever sport, and a person walks up and says I would like to play in the next game, one of you is required to sit out and let this person play regardless of their level of play. I am not really concerned about it happening again because I believe very few people would insist on forcing themselves on a few friends having a good time. In all the years my friends and I have been using open play time for various activities this was a first. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
I can understand why you're upset, but unfortunately it looks like the rec department has set up the rules that way. I cannot imagine inserting myself in a private group that way, but some people have no qualms, and apparently they are within their rights although I personally find it to be discourteous, rule or no rule. I guess the bottom line is, these are not private pools, they are community pools, and we have to play by community rules.
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Old 03-19-2016, 03:00 PM
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I'm just gonna throw something out there. It may not apply. Just disregard if that is the case...

If it's like pickleball, "open play" is specifically so anybody...even a single...can go to the courts and get in line to be paired up with whomever is next to them in line and play a game? I know pickleball has "beginner', "intermediate", "advanced" and such so generally like-skilled players can play together. But it is a wonderful system . You can just go any time there is "open play" scheduled and know you'll get a game.

This is different than those times when there is nothing scheduled on the courts, including "open play". In other words, it's called "open play". But it is a scheduled event for all qualified players. When there is nothing scheduled (including "open play") at a set of pickleball courts, and the courts are open, this...again from my understanding...is when a group of friends can go play together and fully expect to have nobody try to horn in on their game.

Is it possible this same sort of system is set up for water volleyball? Open play is for anybody who wishes to come and join a game? Pool time when nothing is scheduled would then be when friends could get together for their own private game?
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Old 03-19-2016, 03:09 PM
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Excellent explanation of open play, one of the features of The Villages that allows people to meet and get to know other villagers. If you don,t want to play with others sign up for a time as a group during the non open times.
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Old 03-19-2016, 03:32 PM
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Open play does not mean you can play without letting anybody else in. If the court is full, you get in line and rotate in at game's end. What OP is describing is "reserved" time, and that is when a group is formed, names itself, and applies to the rec dept. for a specific day and time. Otherwise you must share.
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