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Old 02-18-2019, 09:42 AM
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Good to see that this thread stayed on a discussion of football as some tried to insist it was. Character assassination because of political stand is what this has become. No other athlete is met with such hateful and personal comments.

Wonder what the difference is ?

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He was a great player and is a great patriot. Put back on the field.

Even if this post was meant to be facetious (and I'm not alleging that it was)...
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:18 AM
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Good to see that this thread stayed on a discussion of football as some tried to insist it was. Character assassination because of political stand is what this has become. No other athlete is met with such hateful and personal comments.

Wonder what the difference is?



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Old 02-18-2019, 11:43 AM
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Actually, it's far from being..."that simple."

He originally sat on the bench until another player (and a vet) told him that it would be more respectful...if he kneeled.

All Kap was doing was trying to bring attention to a cause...that is very real.

Those who would prefer to ignore or turn their heads on this issue, chose to try and make it about disrespecting the flag of our country...instead of a meaningful discussion of the issue.

Of which a lot of those same people, sit in their easy chair munching away on snacks...when the national anthem is being played on the television.

Here is a very balanced view on the whole kneeling thing, including the Green Beret's opinion that Kaepernick went too far (which I agree with)...when he wore those socks.

I encourage all of those who want to know the truth (from a balanced perspective) to read this...but I won't hold my breath.

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What you are doing takes a lot of courage, and I’d be lying if I said I knew what it was like to walk around in your shoes.

I’ve never had to deal with prejudice because of the color of my skin, and for me to say I can relate to what you’ve gone through is as ignorant as someone who’s never been in a combat zone telling me they understand what it’s like to go to war.”

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Some of us hold the view there were/are many more ways to make the same statement without the disrespect....intended or otherwise.

Of course most of those would not be as controversial, hence not warranting the media frenzy validating (or not) the action.
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Good to see that this thread stayed on a discussion of football as some tried to insist it was. Character assassination because of political stand is what this has become. No other athlete is met with such hateful and personal comments.

Wonder what the difference is?
Compared to some other current starting QB's, much less backups, it's been blatantly obvious that his not being signed by ANY team in the NFL...wasn't about his football talent.
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Some of us hold the view there were/are many more ways to make the same statement without the disrespect....intended or otherwise.

Of course most of those would not be as controversial, hence not warranting the media frenzy validating (or not) the action.
Still happy this is all about football, and certainly not assassination of a mans character because and ONLY because of politics....that might make this thread political....

I have asked the moderators to reopen the Facebook thread based on the news this morning that the Russian media (you know the trusted source) is bezerk because Facebook took down one of their "wildly popular" sites on thier. Seems to me that in concert we can condemn an American for exercising the right of free speech and also attack Facebook for taking daringly trying to protect us.

Russia's RT fumes after Facebook blocks 'wildly popular' page
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Compared to some other current starting QB's, much less backups, it's been blatantly obvious that his not being signed by ANY team in the NFL...wasn't about his football talent.
But does his talent warrant the disruption his signing to any team will bring? He hasn't played in three years and the last two seasons he did play he was mediocre at best. Would you honestly sign him? He might work as a backup somewhere, but again, risk vs. reward. Unless he's willing to play year by year and for cheap I wouldn't want him.. JMO..
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And another question......do you not long, as I do, for the day when sports was sports......and the government stayed out of it ? Recall the olympics of the 60's and other such things......all worked out....the sport took care of it, but did not involve government in any way, did not personally attack anyone.

Maybe I am old, but almost everything in the world seems to be under the jurisdiction of the government, except what used to be.....guns, etc. Maybe it is just my old age.
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And another question......do you not long, as I do, for the day when sports was sports......and the government stayed out of it ? Recall the olympics of the 60's and other such things......all worked out....the sport took care of it, but did not involve government in any way, did not personally attack anyone.

Maybe I am old, but almost everything in the world seems to be under the jurisdiction of the government, except what used to be.....guns, etc. Maybe it is just my old age.
Again, you're venturing into politics..

But yes. I long for the day that sports were sports and not a platform for whatever the cause of the day was. If I want to see activism I'll watch an award show..
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