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TommyT 09-25-2017 11:31 AM
Ditched'em Years Back !!!
 
Back many years ago when the players went out on strike, that was it for me. It became a player business instead of a game. I've been a College football watcher ever since.

TommyT 09-25-2017 11:41 AM
WSB Radio in Atlanta reported !!!
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1452968)
It seems to me that the NFL is being hypocritical. Aren't they the ones who have a policy to play the national anthem before every game for the purpose of honoring our country? They should not allow anyone to interfere with that goal, including players and spectators.
I listen to the morning news on WSB radio in Atlanta by way of the net in the mornings because it's from my hometown. This morning they reported that three of the NFL Sports Complexes did NOT play the National Anthem before the games Sunday.... :cry: :cry:

CWGUY 09-25-2017 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1453081)
I don't see where college ball is any better. These thugs came from various universities. They behaved just as badly then.

I don't mind CK's kneeling. While it was a protest, it was a respectful protest. He didn't dance around. He didn't spit. He didn't do so many of the disgraceful behavior I've seen by athletes who "stood" while the anthem was played.

The fact he is a millionaire is absolutely irrelevant. He wasn't protesting treatment he personally experienced, he was protesting treatment of others that several times had lead to murder.

My father served. My brother served three tours in Vietnam. Both did so to defend the rights of Americans to protest, to protect us from real and perceived threats, to ensure that Americans kept their rights. A football player kneeling is one of those rights.

As to the thugs who act like dogs, get arrested for violent crimes, feel hitting their wives and girl friends is okay, they need to be kicked off the field and out of the game until they can prove they are men, not jerks. I quit watching football -- both NFL and college since the same abuse occurs there -- five years ago. I miss it but I can't support it, not my beloved Fish, not my Bruins, and I won't until the thuggery is no longer tolerated.
:wave: Would you please give me your "Left Coast" opinion on this? Thanks. NFL fines William Gay, DeAngelo Williams for uniforms publicizing domestic violence, cancer - TODAY.com

I have a hard time following the logic. Maybe you can sort it out for me. Thanks

Challenger 09-25-2017 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by simpkinp (Post 1452767)
I’ve been an NFL fan for years. Watch Fox NFL Sunday football every week religiously. Watch red zone every Sunday. But protesting the flag, kneeling and disrespecting our country is beyond but I can take. Crawling around like a dog and urinating is unacceptable. Allowing Thuggs to play in games like Ezekiel Elliott is ridiculous. Where are the standards? I’m going back to college football where there is some discipline. Both my sons and their families agree. Vote with your money And your viewership. Go ahead and flame me, I love this country and would never disrespect it.
I have never been part of a protest and always stand at attention during the National Anthem. Learned this conduct in elementary school 1944-50, and 36yr in US Army and ARNG.

Having said that , I wonder when kneeling with a bowed head became a sign of disrespect.

Polar Bear 09-25-2017 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1453138)
...Having said that , I wonder when kneeling with a bowed head became a sign of disrespect.
Context is everything.

Jayhawk 09-25-2017 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1453138)
Having said that , I wonder when kneeling with a bowed head became a sign of disrespect.
When every announcer says "please stand and remove your hat" prior to the song. That's when. :swear:

billc4353 09-25-2017 01:12 PM
It's nice to see so many of us are turning our backs on the NFL
They (the players) have given nothing back to this country for the life and freedom that they enjoy on a daily basis.
To the few of you entertainers who have served your country and spent time far away from home, you like us, realize the value
of freedom and truly appreciate it
It truly makes me sick, as a combat Veteran, when I think about all of the tens of thousands of men
and women who have given up so much, including their lives, and their dreams so that these entertainers can protest on
National TV.

redwitch 09-25-2017 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1453123)
:wave: Would you please give me your "Left Coast" opinion on this? Thanks. NFL fines William Gay, DeAngelo Williams for uniforms publicizing domestic violence, cancer - TODAY.com

I have a hard time following the logic. Maybe you can sort it out for me. Thanks
I can't explain nor defend it, nor do I even want to try.

I sorta get the purple cleat thing -- purple not exactly a Steeler color. BUT since they allowed it once, then they should continue allowing it throughout the season. Either allow support for NFL -approved causes throughout the season or not at all.

Bonnevie 09-25-2017 02:23 PM
I'm assuming when the National Anthem was played on TV all those at home stood at attention? just wondering.

Twodogs 09-25-2017 03:02 PM
I got this message from a buddy up north. The specific ruling pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the NFL League Rulebook. It's to long to quote, but check it out its without question and very direct.

skylane8 09-25-2017 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1453138)
I have never been part of a protest and always stand at attention during the National Anthem. Learned this conduct in elementary school 1944-50, and 36yr in US Army and ARNG.

Having said that , I wonder when kneeling with a bowed head became a sign of disrespect.
I agree. I am going to continue to watch the NFL, NBA, NHL and any other sport I care to.

Taltarzac725 09-25-2017 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by skylane8 (Post 1453245)
I agree. I am going to continue to watch the NFL, NBA, NHL and any other sport I care to.
Me too. I have to check the scores for various reasons and like watching the final few minutes of many sports programs.

Bonnevie 09-25-2017 04:00 PM
This was a non-issue, totally yesterdays news until it was used to fan unnecessary division in the country. To call people SOBs is uncalled for and dehumanizes them. I have never watched a lot of NFL games. I follow some teams of players I saw play in college that I liked, and I will continue to do so. I don't believe the various things the players are doing are disrespectful. I thought Colin Kapernick wearing pig socks was disrespectful.

bimmertl 09-25-2017 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 1453215)
I got this message from a buddy up north. The specific ruling pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the NFL League Rulebook. It's to long to quote, but check it out its without question and very direct.
Not too long to quote, there is no such rule. Perhaps you should have "checked it out" prior to posting.


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Fredster 09-25-2017 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 1452801)
Why does every one say they are disrespecting the Flag. CK stated that he was protesting the way that blacks are treated in this country, not the flag.:cus:
They are free to protest in another venue,
but not while on the job!
And I am free to protest by not viewing or
supporting sponsors products!

Fredster 09-25-2017 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1452840)
No more for me. I am disgusted at this behavior and the non stop bashing of white men who fought for this Great Country.
Your absolutely right, it gets old, yes there are and have been bad white dudes,
but there a whole lot of great white men and women
that have done very positive things for our country, and all of its people!
And it is not a matter of race unless you are narrow minded to make it so, it is simply factual!

Fredster 09-25-2017 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1452850)
Wrapping oneself in the American flag does not make a racist invisible to what their real goals are. This story is as old as the Jim Crow laws. I’ve never, ever seen as many racists in one place as I’ve seen here. Honestly, I’m dumbfounded that smart intelligent successful people can be so ignorant not to see beyond their white skin to think that they are the only stakeholders in this country.


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I don't agree with your personal view,
that not liking the chosen venue of the protesters makes one a racist,
that is quite over the top!

graciegirl 09-25-2017 05:55 PM
you tube. it's a grand old flag, it's a high flyin flag - Bing video

xcaligirl 09-25-2017 06:31 PM
I'm a huge NFL fan but the past 2 years have been ridiculous! I refuse to watch or go to any games until the NFL/owners can man up and demand respect! And to hear on the news a discussion on what will be done if high school players decide to do the same is absolutely unbelievable.

xcaligirl 09-25-2017 06:37 PM
I'm no longer a fan of the NFL. NOT watching or going to any games!

Lottoguy 09-26-2017 10:22 AM
Redzone payments already went in. People will still watch the NFL who paid for it. Talk is cheap money rules.

graciegirl 09-26-2017 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1453618)
Redzone payments already went in. People will still watch the NFL who paid for it. Talk is cheap money rules.
Yeah. But the watchers will be mostly from Mars. The ones who snuck in and look like Californians.

Lottoguy 09-26-2017 10:29 AM
That's okay with me. Do you have the NFL package? I will come over and you just leave your house. I will bring my own beer too!

Bogie Shooter 09-26-2017 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1452840)
No more for me. I am disgusted at this behavior and the non stop bashing of white men who fought for this Great Country.
:what:

Bogie Shooter 09-26-2017 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1453138)
I have never been part of a protest and always stand at attention during the National Anthem. Learned this conduct in elementary school 1944-50, and 36yr in US Army and ARNG.

Having said that , I wonder when kneeling with a bowed head became a sign of disrespect.
Last Friday night...............................

graciegirl 09-26-2017 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1453635)
:what:
I am not sure what that means, but keep in mind I think you are an amazing person. This is why we shouldn't be allowed to talk politics on this side of the forum and why extremism is ......well extreme...in anything.

Go Bucks, Bogie my man.

Bogie Shooter 09-26-2017 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1453635)
:what:
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1453641)
I am not sure what that means, but keep in mind I think you are an amazing person. This is why we shouldn't be allowed to talk politics on this side of the forum and why extremism is ......well extreme...in anything.

Go Bucks, Bogie my man.
Watching Ken Burns new Vietnam special I am seeing more than just white men dying for our country.

graciegirl 09-26-2017 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1453646)
Watching Ken Burns new Vietnam special I am seeing more than just white men dying for our country.
I just love you in a way your wife would approve.

Bogie Shooter 09-26-2017 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1452840)
No more for me. I am disgusted at this behavior and the non stop bashing of white men who fought for this Great Country.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1453635)
:what:
Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1453641)
I am not sure what that means, but keep in mind I think you are an amazing person. This is why we shouldn't be allowed to talk politics on this side of the forum and why extremism is ......well extreme...in anything.

Go Bucks, Bogie my man.
Watching Ken Burns new Vietnam special I am seeing more than just white men dying for our country.

graciegirl 09-26-2017 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1453648)
Watching Ken Burns new Vietnam special I am seeing more than just white men dying for our country.
Well said.

vintageogauge 09-26-2017 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1453190)
I'm assuming when the National Anthem was played on TV all those at home stood at attention? just wondering.
I would assume also that the kneeling players don't kneel at home when they hear the National Anthem on TV. It absurd to think that anyone would stand or kneel in the privacy of their own homes, we were not taught to do that. Back to the topic, I too am done with the NFL and I have been a couch potato on Sundays for as long as I can remember.

CowBubba 09-26-2017 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1453648)
Watching Ken Burns new Vietnam special I am seeing more than just white men dying for our country.
Thank you. I am seeing things that I thought to be true, like we had no business being there and god forgive our government, 58000 lost souls.

CowBubba 09-26-2017 12:23 PM
I could live without basketball, but foot ball and base ball are here to stay. Let the macho men get over themselves and allow us real men and women enjoy our Sunday pass time.

graciegirl 09-26-2017 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CowBubba (Post 1453688)
I could live without basketball, but foot ball and base ball are here to stay. Let the macho men get over themselves and allow us real men and women enjoy our Sunday pass time.
Lived in Washington, right?

CowBubba 09-26-2017 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1453694)
Lived in Washington, right?
No, but we spent a lot of years in the District of Columbia. I've heard foreigners call D.C. Washington DC? LOL
:wave:

Chi-Town 09-26-2017 12:58 PM
Thursday night foitball, Bears at Packers, CBS. I'm going to suggest that the boycott by Wisconsinites and Illinoisans will be suspended for that game.


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graciegirl 09-26-2017 01:00 PM
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CowBubba 09-26-2017 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1453708)
Thursday night foitball, Bears at Packers, CBS. I'm going to suggest that the boycott by Wisconsinites and Illinoisans will be suspended for that game.


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I certainly hope so. Why punish an industry because a handful of mocha men can't find their viagra.

graciegirl 09-26-2017 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CowBubba (Post 1453715)
I certainly hope so. Why punish an industry because a handful of mocha men can't find their viagra.
List of professional sportspeople convicted of crimes - Wikipedia

villagerjack 09-26-2017 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1453648)
Watching Ken Burns new Vietnam special I am seeing more than just white men dying for our country.
I never suggested otherwise but are you suggesting that the white men who died, who comprised a disproportionate 83% of the deaths in Vietnam, were White Supremacists? Vietnam was not only war.


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