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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the NFL's new policy on kneeling?
Yes 54 40.91%
No 78 59.09%
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Old 05-27-2018, 08:14 AM
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The NFL players are entertainers and star athletes. They should be using their positions to better society. And since racism is still a profound problem in our US, they are in a great position to make a difference. And many NFL players are African-American and would have faced this racism first hand.

The US flag represents what Martin Luther King, Jr., fought for as there are promises made by the Founding Fathers to future Americans. The Bill of Rights contains those.

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The NFL players are entertainers and star athletes. They should be using their positions to better society. And since racism is still a profound problem in our US, they are in a great position to make a difference. And many NFL players are African-American and would have faced this racism first hand.

The US flag represents what Martin Luther King, Jr., fought for as there are promises made by the Founding Fathers to future Americans. The Bill of Rights contains those.
I understand those who oppose kneeling during the anthem, and I do not like it much myself.

However, it would better serve this country (which is what these folks maintain) if we strove to respect the values and meaning of the flag. I am not sure that those who condemn those who kneel actually understand the true meaning of the flag of our country and what it stands for.

If we did that first and demanded honesty and values from our leaders, there would be no need for such a demonstration.

Memorial day is a time, for me, to recall all the very good friends lost defending NOT the flag itself, but the principles it stands for.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:12 AM
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I stand so that you can kneel:
by Andrew Freborg
I stand to honor the promise the flag represents.
You kneel because that promise has been broken.
I stand to affirm my belief that all are created equal, and to fight alongside you for that promise.
You kneel because too few stand with you.
I stand because we can be better.
You kneel to remind us to be better.
I stand to honor all that have fought and died so that we may be free.
You kneel because not all of us are.
I stand because I can.
You kneel for those who can't.
I stand to defend your right to kneel.
You kneel to defend my right to stand.
I stand because I love this country.
You kneel because you love it too.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:26 AM
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No, I am not in favor of the new policy.
Players are employees, and they represent the companies they work for. There should be standards that the employers require i.e. standing for the national anthem

What they do on their time is fine, but what they do on their employers time is not.

I will continue to not watch any more football games. I haven't missed it.

My biggest issue is the NFL and the employers didn't deal with this head on right from the start.
Agree. I don’t watch NFL football because of this issue. College football is much more entertaining and you don’t have to deal with the politics.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:56 AM
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The NFL players are entertainers and star athletes. They should be using their positions to better society. And since racism is still a profound problem in our US, they are in a great position to make a difference. And many NFL players are African-American and would have faced this racism first hand.

The US flag represents what Martin Luther King, Jr., fought for as there are promises made by the Founding Fathers to future Americans. The Bill of Rights contains those.
I am happy to see that your view has evolved since the first day this issue was HOT last year.

People are going to feel and believe and speak and act and type whatever they wish about this issue. More power to them.

I wish the Political Forum was open so these subjects could be fully explored without tiptoeing around the Forum Rules.

I remember being taught to STAND AND SALUTE THE FLAG in kindergarten. No one would have dared to take a knee in class then or at a professional sporting event. No Way. The question is what changed and what gives a Professional Athlete the option of deciding which way to go in public? When they are on the clock they are not paid to think about anything except the sport they are paid to entertain us playing in.

Riddle me this???? Why no display's of disrespect (My Opinion) No Link. For Baseball, Basketball, Soccer, Field Hockey, The Olympic's etc? Makes you wonder why just Football doesn't it??

I wish one of the Yankees tried this when George Steinbrenner was alive. Think there was a reason he was called "The Boss"?
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I am happy to see that your view has evolved since the first day this issue was HOT last year.

People are going to feel and believe and speak and act and type whatever they wish about this issue. More power to them.

I wish the Political Forum was open so these subjects could be fully explored without tiptoeing around the Forum Rules.

I remember being taught to STAND AND SALUTE THE FLAG in kindergarten. No one would have dared to take a knee in class then or at a professional sporting event. No Way. The question is what changed and what gives a Professional Athlete the option of deciding which way to go in public? When they are on the clock they are not paid to think about anything except the sport they are paid to entertain us playing in.

Riddle me this???? Why no display's of disrespect (My Opinion) No Link. For Baseball, Basketball, Soccer, Field Hockey, The Olympic's etc? Makes you wonder why just Football doesn't it??

I wish one of the Yankees tried this when George Steinbrenner was alive. Think there was a reason he was called "The Boss"?
If you do not get the intent of the standing and why in football, then you just flat out do not understand what the issue is, and it is NOT about disrespect. It was made political and there it remains, while we seem to ignore snubbing our noses at the systems, beliefs, morals and all the goodness that flag was meant to represent.

Nobody who demeans EVER these players, comments on what the flag represents or understands that these players KNOW what it stands for.

These players, nor most Americans have a chance to demonstrate or show how they feel about the abuse of war heroes, the first ammendment, or the values that are the TRUE meaning of our flag.

I do not like the demonstration either, but I know why they demonstrate....I do not know how those who oppose this kneeling can possibly justify the standards that the flag actually represents and then stand by while those virtues being trod on and that is not a political statement as the opposition to this demonstration is and has always been, the political statement.

As those who attend church on Sunday then sin all week are looked upon as phony and false christians, I still maintain that standing for the anthem and then turning your back on all that it actually means makes anyone who does that a phony patriot bound by politics.

When I attended kindergarten I learned history, and the values that made this country great. That I still hold in my heart. Those folks who in recent times buried and burnt the flag...I didn't like that either, but I listened and investigated their reasons and the message. Most of what they were upset about was financial but they used the flag to show their disapproval.

We seem to be now a country who instead of values worship people, and since we demean war heroes if not in agreement politically, then perhaps we just do not understand the true meaning of the flag or patriotism. And lets be clear......disagreeing with someone politically is not wrong, but disagreeing and mocking service of heroes is much worse than what these players are doing.

The National Anthem does not need to be played before every single sporting event. It is forced patriotism that has diluted the power of the message of standing at attention before the flag.

A sporting event is a glorified movie, and no movie theater plays the National Anthem before the next showing of “Jason Bourne.”

We are numb to the song, the music and the message. There should be an impact to the message when we stand at attention. And the message is standing for the ideal and what we aspire for America, not always what it is. Some stand at sporting events with tears in their eyes.....some share a hot dog at that time....others use it as time to visit the rest room.

Lets begin to respect the ideals furled with the flag and instead of political toys with forced patriotism, lets try the real thing and criticize the ongoing war on all our foundations.

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Old 05-27-2018, 12:42 PM
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I Agree with the Policy with all My Heart. It is a Policy to Stand. Making it about kneeling makes it sound like it is an possible option.
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When you are an employee of a company or organization you become a representative of that employer and are there to perform a task and present the employer in the best light possible. What you do away from the job on your own time is your business but certainly not on company time or property.
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When you are an employee of a company or organization you become a representative of that employer and are there to perform a task and present the employer in the best light possible. What you do away from the job on your own time is your business but certainly not on company time or property.
Just out of curiosity, did you feel the same way when Tim Tebow...publicly interjected his religion into the NFL?


And for the record, I supported Tebow's right to kneel/pray...as well as support those now kneeling for other reasons.


I would even support a Muslim who chose to publicly pray toward Mecca, but I'm betting there would be a whole lotta folks...that would go ballistic if that were to happen.


Oh the hypocrisy.
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