Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1930658)

I think we can finally put this academic and semantic debate to rest. The CDC just announced that only 0.008% of vaccinated individuals became infected with COVID.

So, to repeat my earlier statements, these people cannot acquire and spread COVID. No need to even shout it anymore.

Final score: Medical professionals 1, amateurs with google, 0:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1930681)

And, of those .008%, I'll wager they were nearly all, if not all, in the 5% group that did not get immunity from the vaccine. So, 'fully vaccinated' only means you got the vaccine, not that it actually was effective on you.

Good posts, BTW. Glad to see clarity. Too many people are like mushrooms.

Originally Posted by cj1040 (Post 1930724)

This is one if the very few comments that make sense and that we totally agree with. Also remember that there are new strains of virus that might be more deadly and perhaps resistant to the vaccines we have had. Caution is still needed.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1930616)

First thing you got right:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1929776)

If you are fully vaccinated you CANNOT get the virus, you CANNOT spread the virus, and you CANNOT infect others. Period. PERIOD!!!!!

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1929776)

I would stop right there, but you still don't understand. You have cherry picked quotes that are referring to the vaccinated population as a whole----so yes, there are vaccinated people who can acquire and transmit the virus---a small percentage of them. And yes, you are correct in pointing out efficacy and immunity are 2 different things, because that was the study design for these vaccines. Since a positive antibody test after vaccination is NOT a good measure of immunity, I can't think of a better study metric than symptomatic disease.

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1929529)

A vaccinated person is NOT going to infect someone else.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1929776)

HOWEVER, the overwhelming majority of those vaccinated will acquire immunity and be unable to spread the disease----that is the whole point of a massive vaccination program, once you stop parsing words.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1929776)

Bottom line, the previous statement by T was DEFINITIVE

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1930793)

Pretty humorous, but no, you still haven't supplied a single source for your original rant that claimed: And I'm fairly sure you didn't bother to either read the articles I posted links to or do your own version of the search that I did.



Oh, I understand. (And, hey, you finally got something right, yourself (see above in red)):a040: There was no cherry picking involved, at least from my end: I provided the first 5 hits from the search I stated. When I first responded to the 'definitive statement' from Tmarkwald that said - - I read through the first dozen or so, all of which concluded that nobody seems to knows for sure.


Ooops, the 'overwhelming majority' seems just a little bit less positive than all that "Period. PERIOD!!!!!" nonsense above. I'm not the one parsing words either: my original question was whether there was any backup to the opinion that Tmarkwald stated. There has been none, merely stridently expressed opinion by yourself, condescension & backtracking about what was supposedly implied when you stated positively that "If you are fully vaccinated you CANNOT get the virus, you CANNOT spread the virus, and you CANNOT infect others. Period. PERIOD!!!!!." And I don't care about the 5% figure that you insist means having no immunity. This is flat out false, I have pointed out already.

Actual bottom line: still a nope.

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1930793)

Pretty humorous, but no, you still haven't supplied a single source for your original rant that claimed: And I'm fairly sure you didn't bother to either read the articles I posted links to or do your own version of the search that I did.



Oh, I understand. (And, hey, you finally got something right, yourself (see above in red)):a040: There was no cherry picking involved, at least from my end: I provided the first 5 hits from the search I stated. When I first responded to the 'definitive statement' from Tmarkwald that said - - I read through the first dozen or so, all of which concluded that nobody seems to knows for sure.


Ooops, the 'overwhelming majority' seems just a little bit less positive than all that "Period. PERIOD!!!!!" nonsense above. I'm not the one parsing words either: my original question was whether there was any backup to the opinion that Tmarkwald stated. There has been none, merely stridently expressed opinion by yourself, condescension & backtracking about what was supposedly implied when you stated positively that "If you are fully vaccinated you CANNOT get the virus, you CANNOT spread the virus, and you CANNOT infect others. Period. PERIOD!!!!!." And I don't care about the 5% figure that you insist means having no immunity. This is flat out false, I have pointed out already.

Actual bottom line: still a nope.

Originally Posted by peachpit (Post 1930857)

Amen and Amen, Could someone tell the CDC this so we can cruise again. I've been on land for 14 months. Enough already.

Originally Posted by peachpit (Post 1930896)

Where's this so called CDC located. I need to camp out on their front porch until they let me cruise again.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1930845)

Amazing. I guess you haven't kept up with current events, including my last post. For those that remain hard of hearing, I'll repeat it. THE CDC ANNOUNCED THAT ONLY 0.008% OF THOSE VACCINATED BECAME INFECTED WITH COVID

The debate is OVER. You and the other members of your mutual admiration society LOST, not that you ever had a chance to begin with, it was more like taking candy from a baby.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

PS: I hope you guys know I was just toying around with you.

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1930903)

Maybe what's actually amazing is that you somehow looked 2 days into the future & found this information back on 4/14, when you originally launched your diatribe regarding my question to another user. And, again :ohdear:, your unfounded opinion that "If you are fully vaccinated you CANNOT get the virus, you CANNOT spread the virus, and you CANNOT infect others. Period. PERIOD!!!!!" was never more than that. :blahblahblah: Kind of like the invalid assertion that getting the full vaccine regimen somehow guaranteed total, absolute, perfect, 100% immunity to the lucky 95% of recipients. (A college education is a terrible thing to waste... :sad:) There's actually a lot of good information available on the internet if you know how to search for it.

My guess is that you may well be experienced with taking candy from kids, but you proved nothing here. Actual score: Mutual Admiration Society - 1, Deluded 'expert' - 0. If, I repeat if, the latest numbers regarding infections of the fully vaccinated had been available & presented 2 or 3 days ago (as opposed to the string of "PLEEEEZEE!!!!! ... Period. PERIOD!" junk), I'd have said, "OK, close enough to zero for me. Carry on."

Joking? Oh, heck yeah. Me too...