[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by J1ceasar

As you said in others: Vaccines are only about 95% effective. That's enough for me. Again, if you want to wear a mask, go for it. I would hate to be in that 5% and be sick and symptomatic. Is it enough of a risk for you or me?

You'd not only have to be in that 5%, you'd also have to be in the very unlikely group that even gets sick.

5% is the number that are susceptible, of which only a few percent will actually get Covid, and of those, the majority never even know it.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

There is no evidence the vaccination will prevent you from getting or giving the virus to others . Provide your proof or believe what you want , but most people
are not buying the theory of vaccinated people can not spread Covid 19 .

And the myth lives on. It's like talking to a brick wall.

From the CDC website:

*Vaccines currently approved for use in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19.
*COVID-19 vaccination is an important tool to help stop the pandemic.
*CDC recommends you get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as one is available to you.
*All COVID-19 vaccines available in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19.

And here is the snippet that the myth promulgators latch on to to repeat ad nauseum that you can still get COVID but a less severe illness if you are vaccinated:

*Some people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick because the vaccines are not 100% effective. When this happens, vaccination might help keep you from getting seriously ill, based on data from clinical studies.

Again, a fully vaccinated and immune person CANNOT get and CANNOT spread COVID. PERIOD!!!!!

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And the myth lives on. It's like talking to a brick wall.

From the CDC website:

*Vaccines currently approved for use in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19.
*COVID-19 vaccination is an important tool to help stop the pandemic.
*CDC recommends you get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as one is available to you.
*All COVID-19 vaccines available in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19.

And here is the snippet that the myth promulgators latch on to to repeat ad nauseum that you can still get COVID but a less severe illness if you are vaccinated:

*Some people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick because the vaccines are not 100% effective. When this happens, vaccination might help keep you from getting seriously ill, based on data from clinical studies.

Again, a fully vaccinated and immune person CANNOT get and CANNOT spread COVID. PERIOD!!!!!

You got it!

[Art cov]

Let’s face the truth, cruising will be very boring with mask, 6 feet apart, I would not want to go. Imagine, not getting into shows, music venues, karaoke, so much would be canceled or a third or half occupancy on the decks. Close the pools, hot tubs, and so much more. All the complaining all over the ship not to imagine all the mask police trying to ruin the vacations of everyone. Many things are not being thought of here. Since prices of everything has gone up, food quality won’t be the same along with everything else. Rising fuel prices, it will be a nightmare. No more dancing, private island lines for food, forget about it! Lines around the whole island to get a piece of chicken or salad. It may take 3 times the time to get off or on a ship at ports. I’m sure you can imagine the chaos brewing as tempers rise with all the aggravation. Just one real or phony outbreak and everyone is quarantined. Lets see how this plays out. 6’ apart is a joke in the elevators, no cramming in after spending the afternoon on an island to hurry to get the buffet or any other place on the ship. Imagine trying to get to the room after running around in the heat in Jamaica to get a shower! Have yourself the time of your life! Hey folks, I loved cruising! But think about some things that will change

[Hiltongrizz11]

Originally Posted by dougjb

Yes....masks are such an incredible burden. It is simply the hardest thing anyone could possibly imagine to do. Don't you just find it so difficult to put one loop over one ear and the other loop over the other ear? How dare anyone suggest we should give a damn about our fellow human beings! After all, it is our right to play a part in infecting others with a potentially deadly disease. Don't you just love showing others how little you care about them?

If masks worked we wouldn't be doing this stuff after a year! Wakeup?

The only way this governmental OVER REACH will stop is if WE THE PEOPLE push back and say enough!

This virus is virtually no risk for over 99% of the population. If you are afraid stay home. Let the rest of us keep the world open so you have one to come back to after you've cowered away for so long.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by billethkid

The rub with Desantis will be when more cruise lines requiring vaccinated crews and passengers.

This is not the first time vaccinations of one kind or another are required for travel!

Correct. Depending where in Europe or overseas the cruise ports, some vaccinations are required. This may just be one of them to cruise anywhere

[donassaid]

Any cruise line requiring masks and vaccinations can forget my business. I thought we lived in America, the former "home of the brave and land of the free"?

[davephan]

At some point, the cruises will start again in the US. The three largest cruise ship ports in the world are located in Florida. The cruise ships are supposed to be safer than the grocery stores now.

Cruises already started up many months ago from foreign ports, and there’s been no stories about cruise ship disasters, with people getting sick or dying.

When cruising starts up again, we’ll probably take another cruise. Cruising is a fantastic way to travel, which eliminates the hassles of traveling by land. However, we’d would always choose to have a balcony cabin in the future, never an interior cabin, just in case there is a problem.

[billethkid]

A cruise requiring all vaccinated crew and all vaccinated passengers would not need social distancing or masks....see golfing eagles post 34 above.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Any cruise line requiring masks and vaccinations can forget my business. I thought we lived in America, the former "home of the brave and land of the free"?

So, the rest of the world has to conform, but we don't?

COVID vaccine passports: More cruise lines and airlines climb aboard

[Alana33]

The majority of destinations outside the mainland U.S. require a negative test for entry and proof of vaccinations, this includes U.S. Territories.
Cruise ships and airline travel will also require this.
Before you go on a cruise you should check on how successful your destination has been in reducing covid and what their infection and death rate is.
Many Caribbean destinations have worked hard to contain infection because their medical infrastructure is insufficient to care for mass outbreaks in their population. Plus, many destinations require that you wear a mask in all public places.
When you have cruise ship passengers inundation of small Caribbean islands, increasing their popopulation, daily, with 30,000 plus visitors, it pays to be safe and have these rules in place.
FL already has the highest # of Covid variants in the US. Let's not spread it further.

[Villages Kahuna]

Aha! The lobbyists with the handfuls of cash at work again!

[kenoc7]

[QUOTE=Stu from NYC;1929360]We are in as soon as they require vaccinations and we GET OVER THE MASK THING. They work and they will still be required in congregant settings. Do you realize that there have been huge reductions in flu, coughs, colds, and seasonal allergies because of COVID mask wearing?

[stebooo]

Amazing, someone tries to do something good and is taken to task

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11

If masks worked we wouldn't be doing this stuff after a year! Wakeup?

The only way this governmental OVER REACH will stop is if WE THE PEOPLE push back and say enough!

This virus is virtually no risk for over 99% of the population. If you are afraid stay home. Let the rest of us keep the world open so you have one to come back to after you've cowered away for so long.

If everyone complied and actually wore their masks, AND social distanced, we wouldn't be doing "this stuff" after a year. They urged people after the first couple of months to wear masks. Many people complied. Unfortunately, many people did NOT comply, and the virus continued to spread.

When you are that 1% who is affected directly by the virus, come back here and tell us how it's no big deal and the rest of the world should open.