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Marathon Man 04-28-2020 01:39 PM

I play pickleball and I play golf. I have done neither for 43 days now. Until the numbers come down, the virus is still making its way through our community. We all need to participate in the effort to make this thing go away. It is not enough to think of protecting yourself. You must also think of others. Isn't that what we teach our children and grandchildren?

sallybowron 04-28-2020 01:42 PM

Pickleball
 
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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1754524)
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.

I find your post both rude and self serving. Pickleball is not the only way to exercise, it is just your favorite way. You could walk or run as well. As far as refunding the amenities fees goes, that would lead to a lack of care for the amenities arenas. Pickleball courts would not be kept up along with many of the others. Calling people who don't want to catch the virus a germaphobe is atrocious. I doubt anyone wants to contract the virus. A germaphobe is afraid of all germs, not just the one about which we know very little. I guess if you are playing pickleball and increasing your exposure to the virus you will do the polite thing and not go into a grocery store a church or a restaurant which are opening soon. Or would you, is it all about you? Not allowing people out to things which they do just for recreation, IMHO, keps the whole population safer. Grow up and think of everyone. :boxing2::boxing2:

james robertson 04-28-2020 02:57 PM

In pickleball and tennis(my game) you have to handle the ball after another player has touched it. In golf(also my game), a player never touches another player's ball, nor a rake, nor the pin, as the game is now played.

PugMom 04-28-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1754615)
Does the outdoor gym equipment have to be touched to use them? I thought that equipment was off limits at this time.

i've read the uv light can kills the germ instantly. not sure if thats true or not, nothing seems certain these days

jenistaf 04-28-2020 03:14 PM

PB Distancing
 
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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1754652)
I don't see why pickleball courts couldn't be opened assuming people could follow social distancing guidelines. Yes, you have to touch the ball but don't touch your face and after each game, wash (disinfect) your hands and the ball. It really could (and should) be a very safe game to play. Only put up 1/2 the nets and that alone would decrease the density on the courts.

I do see the problem with players standing in lines waiting to play and I'm not sure there is a good way to protect against that since too many folks just don't seem to understand. In most of the recreation activities if people would follow the rules they could be played very safely. The few are ruining the opportunities for the many.

Half nets are a good idea for gradual reintroduction. Here are a couple of other ideas: Wait outside the fences, with safe distancing. Use paddle racks to determine/maintain order of play.

Jerry101 04-28-2020 03:20 PM

My wife and I moved to The Villages on April 28, 2019! We love it here! We really do! Periodically I pick one of the topics on this site by chance and read 10 or 15 comments! I didn’t know when we moved here that I also would come across (apparently) THE SMARTEST PEOPLE in THE GOOD ‘Ol 🇺🇸 USA! ... (tongue back in cheek).

PugMom 04-28-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1755172)
The government mandated seat belts, air bags, tons of other safety mechanisms, speed limits, lower bac's, etc. all which has saved hundreds of thousands of deaths on our highways over the years. 38,000 deaths in one year is not comparable to nearly 60,000 in just 3 months. The government stepped in to protect us from injury and now they have stepped in to protect us from the virus.

Holy Christ, what a frightening comment.

Hopeful2 04-28-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1755247)
I find your post both rude and self serving. Pickleball is not the only way to exercise, it is just your favorite way. You could walk or run as well. As far as refunding the amenities fees goes, that would lead to a lack of care for the amenities arenas. Pickleball courts would not be kept up along with many of the others. Calling people who don't want to catch the virus a germaphobe is atrocious. I doubt anyone wants to contract the virus. A germaphobe is afraid of all germs, not just the one about which we know very little. I guess if you are playing pickleball and increasing your exposure to the virus you will do the polite thing and not go into a grocery store a church or a restaurant which are opening soon. Or would you, is it all about you? Not allowing people out to things which they do just for recreation, IMHO, keps the whole population safer. Grow up and think of everyone. :boxing2::boxing2:

I totally agree with every thing you said! Thank you for posting! :bigbow:

THUNDERCHIEF 04-28-2020 07:14 PM

Pickle ball
 
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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1754524)
a lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.

You can get the virus while you play pickle ball then we do not have to listen to you whining anymore. LIFT WEIGHTS AT HOME ,DO SIT UPS, RUN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES. GUYS LIKE YOU GOT SOME OF MY BUDDIES KILLED IN NAM

600th Photo Sq 04-28-2020 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dlspiess (Post 1755021)
If you sanitize the ball and racket but that's not enough then are you indicating that the nets and the court itself is infected? If you are using your own equipment I don't see it any different than golf.

Just a FYI :

Tennis = Racket

Pickleball = Paddle

It is confusing at times the tennis courts are next to the pickleball courts in some areas it is kind of cozy an errant tennis ball and the same with a pickleball ball.

We smile and well here is your ball and have a Tennis vs Pickleball attitude grrr.

My question to the Tennis Community when was the last time you had a State Wide Senior Tournament if ever in The Villages vs The Pickleball Community.

Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts. $$ Saved



Marvic 1 04-28-2020 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1755371)
Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts.

. . . . . . . . . Agree! :coolsmiley:

xNYer 04-28-2020 07:58 PM

Millions
 
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Originally Posted by BevSparks (Post 1755121)
Agree, open PB and everything else. Recent studies are showing that millions have all ready had Covid-19, and since we know more about it at this point, we need to return to normal. If you have health issues, then it's a good idea to stay home but for those who are healthy it's time to get back to work and to normal routines...

1 million out of 330 million Americans have had it so now we are safe?
Anyone in a high risk group should stay home. Do you mean all Villagers over 65?
Some great thoughts.

600th Photo Sq 04-28-2020 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry101 (Post 1755296)
My wife and I moved to The Villages on April 28, 2019! We love it here! We really do! Periodically I pick one of the topics on this site by chance and read 10 or 15 comments! I didn’t know when we moved here that I also would come across (apparently) THE SMARTEST PEOPLE in THE GOOD ‘Ol 🇺🇸 USA! ... (tongue back in cheek).

I will add to your comments the most " Naïve " panic situation with so many it is really disappointing.

I would think that the senior population here would have a better inspiration to others instead of being in a panic mode.

All of you should be ashamed of yourselves sure it is terrible honestly get a grip.

Look back at 1914-18 War,

The Great Depression 1929-30's

Then World War II.

C'mon . For Crying Out Loud ! OMG

Topspinmo 04-28-2020 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1755246)
I play pickleball and I play golf. I have done neither for 43 days now. Until the numbers come down, the virus is still making its way through our community. We all need to participate in the effort to make this thing go away. It is not enough to think of protecting yourself. You must also think of others. Isn't that what we teach our children and grandchildren?

That’s fine for you, but rest of golfer have chopping along like nothing happened shut it all down, golf is no safer that other outdoor sports, but golf is money maker

morningfox2016 04-28-2020 10:46 PM

Ditto!

argos5usa 04-28-2020 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by THUNDERCHIEF (Post 1755365)
You can get the virus while you play pickle ball then we do not have to listen to you whining anymore. LIFT WEIGHTS AT HOME ,DO SIT UPS, RUN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES. GUYS LIKE YOU GOT SOME OF MY BUDDIES KILLED IN NAM

Hmm.

argos5usa 04-29-2020 12:04 AM

1) The rec department is saving money by not allowing people to use recreation facilities; any savings should go back to those being denied usage;
2) Germophobe is an understatement for those who love to dictate and control others' behavior;
3) Keeping healthy people locked up inside is actually harming the population;
3) Being told to grow up by someone posting boxing emojis is laughable.

Topspinmo 04-29-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1755371)
Just a FYI :

Tennis = Racket

Pickleball = Paddle

It is confusing at times the tennis courts are next to the pickleball courts in some areas it is kind of cozy an errant tennis ball and the same with a pickleball ball.

We smile and well here is your ball and have a Tennis vs Pickleball attitude grrr.

My question to the Tennis Community when was the last time you had a State Wide Senior Tournament if ever in The Villages vs The Pickleball Community.

Atleast 50% of the Tennis Courts should be configured to Pickleball Courts. $$ Saved



Guess you haven’t heard of the USTA? At least 10 times bigger that USPBA and hundred times more tournaments and leagues.

Now I agree where rec centers are close one needs to be tennis aNd other could to be pickleball. Saddlebrook and laurel manor good example. Make saddle brook tennis courts all pickleball ( that would be 12 courts total) and laurel manor all tennis ( would be three courts. ) I sure there are other examples like down canal street that has three rec center with tennis and pickleball side by side.

There lots of tennis players in villages, lot of pickleball players are ex-tennis players. Tennis lot more demanding and way higher learning curve. Takes months or years for some just to be able to rally point, let along serve. Pickleball like horseshoes, anybody can dink ball Or pitch ball over the net or step two or three steps left and right or too net.

Pickleball will never be big as tennis. Even if it ever makes it to national level and want TV coverage they will have to get rid of the side outs. Takes too long to complete game and all that dinking boring. Name one televised sports that has side outs now?

Topspinmo 04-29-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1755440)
Hmm.

Wrong post

600th Photo Sq 04-29-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xNYer (Post 1755377)
1 million out of 330 million Americans have had it so now we are safe?
Anyone in a high risk group should stay home. Do you mean all Villagers over 65?
Some great thoughts.

Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.

That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:

Topspinmo 04-29-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by james robertson (Post 1755284)
In pickleball and tennis(my game) you have to handle the ball after another player has touched it. In golf(also my game), a player never touches another player's ball, nor a rake, nor the pin, as the game is now played.

But, when some spits on the course and you’re ball dribbles through it you just touch the inside of there mouth with you hand. Yes odds are astonishing, but not zero.

Topspinmo 04-29-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jellybeanrt (Post 1755190)
The pickle ball lines would be around the corner, standing 6 feet apart, think about that. Or on top of each other which is a bad thing


You mean like red sauce? Things are going to open in two weeks. Get use to it or stay home.

kansasr 04-29-2020 09:21 AM

From the CDC
 
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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1755596)
Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.

That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:

Based on what we know now, those at high-risk for severe illness from COVID-19 are:

People 65 years and older
People who live in a nursing home or long-term care facility

HIgolfers 04-29-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1755237)
Walked by sports pool today and lane ropes was installed.

Lane ropes were never taken down (at least at Colony).

xNYer 04-29-2020 10:16 AM

Age
 
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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1755596)
Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.

That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:


From the CDC
COVID-19 is a new disease and there is limited information regarding risk factors for severe disease. Based on currently available information and clinical expertise, older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions might be at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19.

Jayhawk 04-29-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1755596)
Age has nothing to do with the risk factor. For example a 90 year old in perfect health is not in the risk category.

That example has been repeated over, and over ………….and over. :ohdear:

Thank you, Doctor (I assume). You need to straighten out the government, the CDC, and the medical community while you're at it.

People Who Are at Higher Risk for Severe Illness | Coronavirus | COVID-19 | CDC

argos5usa 04-29-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1755607)
But, when some spits on the course and you’re ball dribbles through it you just touch the inside of there mouth with you hand. Yes odds are astonishing, but not zero.

Yeah...about the same odds as being hit by a meteorite on the course...you convinced me, no more golf.

Topspinmo 04-29-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1755708)
Yeah...about the same odds as being hit by a meteorite on the course...you convinced me, no more golf.

That still NOT zero. I sure you can’t stop why you’re posting. Golfers are NOT special, even though they think they are.

Bosoxfan 04-29-2020 11:22 PM

Nope

twoplanekid 04-30-2020 06:52 AM

Today, The Villages Rec. and Parks News alluded to the probability that pickleball might be in Phase III “Beyond the Month of May and Successful Completion of Phase II”. That is assuming that “ The District could include the additional openings of outdoor facilities and activities as well as the phasing in of District Support Services” is talking about pickleball.

Hopefully, we may be able to play sometime before the fall and a return of the virus.

Tennisbum 04-30-2020 07:52 AM

Wearing gloves during this activity or any other sporting activity only increases the risk of spread. Unless you dispose of or sanitize the gloves after each use. Any virus would live all of the folds and creases in the gloves to hang out! Unless you take them off without touching the outside yo just moved any virus to your hand. Best bet is to play the game, and sanitize your paddle or racquet after the match and keep you hands away from your face and your fellow players! This advice came from a CDC friend who is pretty high up on the food chain!!

Altavia 04-30-2020 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tennisbum (Post 1756132)
Wearing gloves during this activity or any other sporting activity only increases the risk of spread. Unless you dispose of or sanitize the gloves after each use. Any virus would live all of the folds and creases in the gloves to hang out! Unless you take them off without touching the outside yo just moved any virus to your hand. Best bet is to play the game, and sanitize your paddle or racquet after the match and keep you hands away from your face and your fellow players! This advice came from a CDC friend who is pretty high up on the food chain!!

Exactly - most people do not know how to use gloves correctly/effectively.

Another option is to carry hand sanitizer In your pocket and use it before and after touching something.

xcaligirl 04-30-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1754556)
Thank you for the thoughtful response(s) but if "liability exposure" becomes the primary concern then they won't reopen for months..."assumption of the risk" should be a sufficient defense for the developer...wearing gloves won't protect you very much since you will likely touch other parts of your body with your glove...using outdoor exercise equipment is arguably much worse than touching a pickleball.

My point is that we have reached the point of diminishing returns on this lock down approach and entering the causing more harm than good phase and we need to move on.

I believe WE, under guidance of the Gov, are opening in PHASES.... Phase 1 starting Monday. Just because PB is not in phase 1, they are trying to open in phases! When Irma hit, pb courts were 'locked' and advised not to be used. What happened? People couldn't follow any rules, cut the zip ties and played!

twoplanekid 04-30-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1756150)
I believe WE, under guidance of the Gov, are opening in PHASES.... Phase 1 starting Monday. Just because PB is not in phase 1, they are trying to open in phases! When Irma hit, pb courts were 'locked' and advised not to be used. What happened? People couldn't follow any rules, cut the zip ties and played!

Pickleball maybe in Phase III starting maybe some time in June.

see post 110

cmj1210 04-30-2020 09:46 AM

Not until Phase III

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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1754524)
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.


Topspinmo 05-01-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1756150)
I believe WE, under guidance of the Gov, are opening in PHASES.... Phase 1 starting Monday. Just because PB is not in phase 1, they are trying to open in phases! When Irma hit, pb courts were 'locked' and advised not to be used. What happened? People couldn't follow any rules, cut the zip ties and played!

Cause the hurricane passed. I don’t think could play in hurricane winds.

MichiganKid 05-01-2020 11:38 AM

Re opening of pickleball courts.
 
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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1754524)
A lot of people rely on pickleball and other physical activities to keep their blood pressure down and maintain their general health...Keeping these activities closed is doing much more harm than good...either open them or partially refund amenities fees...germophobes can stay home ...enough is enough already.

This is ridiculous. Common sense, scientist have already stated how much the UV rays from sun deteriorate The threads of the virus. I’m a retired physiologist and understand in depth of vaccines, and viruses. With the amount of space on a pickleball court and amount of players in that area is minimal . If everyone on the court washes there hands on site and wipes the balls being used the ability to catch the virus is less likely than winning the lottery.. and yes we are paying amenity fees for no amenities. Where is this money x thousands of residents that isn’t being used going. No expense on balls, maintenance , staff to handle job responsibilities related.. sad...

MichiganKid 05-01-2020 11:53 AM

Pickleball less activity than walking, you obviously are a very low level player or never played..and staying in the home is physically detrimental, not just psychological ,, no sun light is very bad..

MichiganKid 05-01-2020 11:55 AM

Villages dont care, free money, there similar to a health club, you pay monthly weather your using the facility or not...

JoMar 05-01-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MichiganKid (Post 1756883)
This is ridiculous. Common sense, scientist have already stated how much the UV rays from sun deteriorate The threads of the virus. I’m a retired physiologist and understand in depth of vaccines, and viruses. With the amount of space on a pickleball court and amount of players in that area is minimal . If everyone on the court washes there hands on site and wipes the balls being used the ability to catch the virus is less likely than winning the lottery.. and yes we are paying amenity fees for no amenities. Where is this money x thousands of residents that isn’t being used going. No expense on balls, maintenance , staff to handle job responsibilities related.. sad...

Seems you might be the only person that understands this virus. Seems all the international docs and scientists are still trying to understand it. Why aren't you offering your expertise to them to help us all rather than wasting it on here talking about pickleball.


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