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RoboVil 09-09-2025 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2459796)
What's the heck is the PCVG?
The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.

RoboVil 09-09-2025 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2459816)
IMO Probably over replacement of dura balls? the most junk balls in pickleball. Even Franklin x balls are better and around 1/3 the price. I praise rec department for buying Vulcan proV2 balls :bowdown:, hopefully some will filter there way up north (but I doubt it? Who care about old area?). Something had to happen that they didn’t like? Why keep us in dark? Where rat when we need one? :beer3:
The word "financial' was mentioned in the resignation letter. Why does a volunteer organization have so many corporate donors? Who is getting the money? How does a non-profit organization, and thus not part of the Villages, get priority over pickleball court times from Village residents? They pay no (known) fees to take over the courts. The arrangement is odd and not transparent.

RoboVil 09-09-2025 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2459855)
Does the Villages have these kind of boards for each sport? Does golf have 1 too?
There seems to be some issues with this boards resignation statement based on the spokesman’s comments:

“ We have become increasingly concerned with the organization's direction, which has, in our view, strayed from its foundational principles.
Our decision is rooted in a fundamental disagreement with the board's current approach to governance and priorities. We have witnessed a troubling pattern of internal conflicts and a disregard for the established bylaws, leading to significant distractions from the core mission of serving our players. We also have serious concerns regarding financial oversight and the lack of a clear vision for the club's future.”

1) how can this board be upset with the direction of this board? These same people resigning are the exact members setting the direction?
2) internal conflicts? Again, they are referring to the same board they run!
3) financial oversight? I found out this board implemented a $20 fee for any pickleball player who uses any of the boards function. What’s concerning is that it seems the board started getting inquiries on what that fee used for and the board did t know how the money is spent. I hope all boards or organizations within the villages are accountable for any charged fees, that seems like a very reasonable request from the heads of an organization
This organization is a stand-alone, non-profit not directly associated with the Villages. Somehow, The Villages rec organization gives them priority access to take over the pickleball courts for their use. What a great set-up - free pickleball courts and priority times and take in money from corporate donors and more! What a sweetheart deal.

Pugchief 09-09-2025 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2459855)

1) how can this board be upset with the direction of this board? These same people resigning are the exact members setting the direction?
2) internal conflicts? Again, they are referring to the same board they run!
How does any governing body with more than one person necessarily all agree? Different people have different opinions. They don't all agree. Like any parliamentary government in the world.

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3) financial oversight? I found out this board implemented a $20 fee for any pickleball player who uses any of the boards function. What’s concerning is that it seems the board started getting inquiries on what that fee used for and the board did t know how the money is spent. I hope all boards or organizations within the villages are accountable for any charged fees, that seems like a very reasonable request from the heads of an organization
The new fee is supposedly to cover the cost of using and managing a new software platform that keeps track of players, matches, DUPR* scores, etc. You don't have to pay the fee unless you want to participate in PCVG leagues or tournaments. All other PB in TV is not affected.

*DUPR = Dynamic Universal Pickleball Rating

Pugchief 09-09-2025 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Justputt (Post 2459940)
The OP is devoid of any useful information that could be used to engage in any intelligent discourse. Thus, it is a waste. If you have something to say, be specific.
Disagree completely. An email was sent to everyone in their huge database, and the information within was vague in some ways. OP was looking for clarification from those in the know, since it was likely not forthcoming from PCVG.

Pugchief 09-09-2025 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RoboVil (Post 2459959)
The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.
Are you saying that some residents of TV, who pay their amenities fee like everyone else, are not entitled to participate in leagues, tournaments, clinics, drills and other group PB? Do you think that coordination of those activities will magically happen on its own without some volunteers to organize it?

There are over 300 PB courts in TV. Lots of opportunities to play. Maybe not in the location you want at the time you want, but still, lots of options.

BrianL99 09-09-2025 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RoboVil (Post 2459959)
The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.
As I don't play Pickleball, I don't have any knowledge of the arrangements, but that doesn't sound like a great arrangement ... although I guess it's probably similar to towns that have an "arrangement" with Little League Teams or Soccer Leagues.

npwalters 09-09-2025 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RoboVil (Post 2459959)
The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.
Actually, PCVG has an agreement with the recreation department to use a limited number of courts from 10 to 12 in the winter and 8 to 10 in the summer. "any time of the day" is a gross overstatement. When they do use the courts they fill 100% of the courts reserved.

I, along with about 150 others, donate my time to teach during the times the courts are reserved for instruction. Several other courts are reserved once a week for various competitive leagues.

Topspinmo 09-09-2025 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 2459981)
Actually, PCVG has an agreement with the recreation department to use a limited number of courts from 10 to 12 in the winter and 8 to 10 in the summer. "any time of the day" is a gross overstatement. When they do use the courts they fill 100% of the courts reserved.

I, along with about 150 others, donate my time to teach during the times the courts are reserved for instruction. Several other courts are reserved once a week for various competitive leagues.
Why do they take up open play times from 8 to 10 am. That should NOT be allowed, that’s residents open play times.

Topspinmo 09-09-2025 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RoboVil (Post 2459959)
The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.

I don’t think the developers has nothing to do with it. I imagine it’s head of rec department that rec center named after. :read:

BrianL99 09-09-2025 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2460001)
Why do they take up open play times from 8 to 10 am. That should NOT be allowed, that’s residents open play times.
Are the people playing during the reserved time ... not residents???

Topspinmo 09-09-2025 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2460004)
Are the people playing during the reserved time ... not residents???

Maybe? But that’s not my job, it’s rec centers. In my local area not problem that I aware of?
I would imagine hard to check ID at Rohan pods and couple more that got over 6 courts?

npwalters 09-09-2025 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2460001)
Why do they take up open play times from 8 to 10 am. That should NOT be allowed, that’s residents open play times.
As another said, they are residents (they have to register with their villages ID number). However, we only teach from 8 to 10 in the summer and that is due to heat. Plus, we only teach introductory classes once a month in the summer. That changes to once a week in the fall/winter. We will switch back to 10 to 12 in October. The classes are always booked full with a waiting list in the high season.

BrianL99 09-09-2025 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2460001)
Why do they take up open play times from 8 to 10 am. That should NOT be allowed, that’s residents open play times.
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2460004)
Are the people playing during the reserved time ... not residents???
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2460009)
Maybe? But that’s not my job, it’s rec centers. In my local area not problem that I aware of?
I would imagine hard to check ID at Rohan pods and couple more that got over 6 courts?
I'll ask the question another way. Why shouldn't they be using specific times, they're residents?

It's no different than a "group" booking a block of Tee Times. The Villages specifically allows this and has a special procedure, where larger groups get a preferred, blocked Tee Time on a regular basis.

Paradise909 09-09-2025 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2459905)
This is the kind of statement that proves there is a disconnect between those who are capable of recognizing and dealing with "real world" problems and those who are play acting.
It proves you don’t know what happened. An evil woman created a smear campaign against them involving 100s of players. That’s the readers digest version. Someone posted a statement.on their Facebook page pickleballcommunity that has a little more information. The lady was let go due to cause and then lied to her friends to get them riled up against board members.


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