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neilbcox 09-03-2014 06:14 PM

Do we have gate guards or gate openers????
 
Issue: do we have gate openers or gate security at Pinellas Place and Morris?

Observation: On Tuesday evening I came through this gate on the residents side of the gate behind 2 other residents. In the guest side by the gate openers shack, the gate keeper let a 1990 Buick, no hub caps, smoke coming out from the underside of the car which had 4 different color finders and doors. This car had four teenagers in that car! No questions asked, no car information taken down and they was passed through in front of residents.

Is this policy?

As a lifelong member of VHA I have major concern living in a gated community with zero gate security!

Recommendation: have owners present vehicle registration certificates to receive a non-removable resident sticker that is placed on the window shield. This way our gate security can see if you belong here or just a passer by. Passer by cars have to stop and asked what specific address they are going and their tag number taken down. Local service companies can provide copies vehicle tags and copy of drivers licenses of their techs to obtain a service vehicle sticker.

We are letting far to many unchecked cars, trucks and strangers in to our communities which can cause us danger and fears.

billethkid 09-03-2014 06:19 PM

Please recognize TV IS NOT a gated community.

Secondly the streets are public streets and no one can be denied access.

Next?

mickey100 09-03-2014 06:20 PM

The Developer turned over the roads to the county north of 466A, so there can be no restricted access. I assume the same will happen south of 466A when construction is complete. The answer to your question is = we have NO security. This is not a standard gated community.

NoMoSno 09-03-2014 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilbcox (Post 932796)
Issue: do we have gate openers or gate security at Pinellas Place and Morris?

They are gate greeters.

janmcn 09-03-2014 06:26 PM

The districts that govern The Villages (as in Community Development Districts or CDD's) have no policing powers, therefore TV has to rely on the Sumter County sheriff's office for traffic control and enforcement.

redwitch 09-03-2014 06:26 PM

Think of TV as a community with gates, not as a gated community. The gates' main purpose is to slow vehicles down.

If this was a gated community, we would be responsible for all street maintenance. I'd hate to imagine what the amenity fee would be like.

The20Percent 09-03-2014 11:08 PM

I thought most of the gates have cameras and assumed that when the "greeter" puts up his stop sign for your car to stop, the intention is to get a clear shot of the car's license plate? Am I correct in this assumption? I would feel better knowing there is a video recording of every car entering our particular village in case ours, or a neighbor's house, is burglarized.

CatskillBill 09-04-2014 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 932799)
Please recognize TV IS NOT a gated community.

Secondly the streets are public streets and no one can be denied access.

Next?

I understand that the streets were given back to the county to cut the cost of maintenance for TV. A great deal for Morse. But, how did the county allow gates and gatekeepers holding up stop signs on so called "public" roads?

Also, why in the world would Sumter and Marion Counties agree take the roads over only to have to spend taxpayer's money to fix them?

If I think vehicles are goin too fast down my street, I guess I can get my own handheld stop sign and make drivers stop on a public road too?

Bonanza 09-04-2014 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The20Percent (Post 932920)
I thought most of the gates have cameras and assumed that when the "greeter" puts up his stop sign for your car to stop, the intention is to get a clear shot of the car's license plate? Am I correct in this assumption? I would feel better knowing there is a video recording of every car entering our particular village in case ours, or a neighbor's house, is burglarized.

When a "greeter" puts up his stop sign,
it's because another car is going through the "resident" side at pretty much, the same time.

Supposedly, all the gates have cameras, but I question if this is really true.
Can you imagine if every car's license had their picture taken???
What a joke!

Bonanza 09-04-2014 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 932807)
Think of TV as a community with gates, not as a gated community. The gates' main purpose is to slow vehicles down.

If this was a gated community, we would be responsible for all street maintenance. I'd hate to imagine what the amenity fee would be like.

You are so correct on all points!

Even as a non-gated community,
we're paying over a million dollars a year for our "keystone cops" to man the gates,
in addition to the gates' maintenance, the electricity, etc.

I can think of better ways to spend a million bucks!

mickey100 09-04-2014 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The20Percent (Post 932920)
I thought most of the gates have cameras and assumed that when the "greeter" puts up his stop sign for your car to stop, the intention is to get a clear shot of the car's license plate? Am I correct in this assumption? I would feel better knowing there is a video recording of every car entering our particular village in case ours, or a neighbor's house, is burglarized.

I think the gate cameras are in place to catch the people who run into the gates, so they can nab them for repair costs.

thelegges 09-04-2014 06:18 AM

I look as the gates are just a speed bump

Loudoll 09-04-2014 06:46 AM

Wow
 
Didn't realize this. I thought we were special and protected. From now on I shall use the visitor's gate and not wear out my window motor.

Birdie Dreamer 09-04-2014 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loudoll (Post 932971)
Didn't realize this. I thought we were special and protected. From now on I shall use the visitor's gate and not wear out my window motor.

You will still need to put down the window, push the red button and wait for the voice to say " Welcome to The Villages".

maybe 09-04-2014 07:51 AM

Although the official reason for the gates is "traffic control", I think the main reason is to give the impression of a gated community. It helps higher house sale prices and volume. If TV ever is built out, I wonder if enough people will see that the gates are not worth keeping. I suspect equal "security" could be maintained by low maintainance speed bumps and cameras.


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