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Yucatan2 04-28-2020 09:52 AM

Statistics for COVID in FL and our 3 counties 4/28/20
 
Perusing the floridahealthcovid19.gov website this morning. There have been roughly 32000 cases in FL, with 5000 people hospitalized at some point (NOT currently hospitalized). Dade county:11440 (37%), Broward 4670 (15%), Palm Beach 2705 (9%), and Orange county 1276 (4%)....these four counties account for 65% of the cases in the entire state. Continuing...Hillsborough 1015 (3%), Duval 965(3%), and Lee 935 (3%) adds up to 74% of all cases in FL.

Lake county 211 cases Sumter 173, Marion 148 at 1% each, 3% total.

Of those cases, Ocala (Marion) had 109, Clermont (Lake)78, The Villages (Sumter)69, Bushnell (Sumter) 57, Leesburg (Lake) 32, Lake Panasoffkee (Sumter) 21, Summerfield (Marion) 18, Tavares (Lake)16, Mount Dora (Lake)14, Groveland (Lake)13, Mascotte (Lake)12, Lady Lake (Lake)10, Citra (Marion)7, Wildwood (Sumter) 7, Webster (Sumter) 7, The Villages (Lake) 7, and Lady Lake (Sumter) 6.

There were a few more towns with 5 or less cases cumulative, since counting began. So, I get 86 cases actually in The Villages to this point.

Further checking on hospitalizations, at this point at SOME TIME during their illness, Lake has had 58, Sumter 40, and Marion 20. Deaths: Lake 10, Sumter 12, and Marion 4.

Concluding....in my observation the entire state of FL is shutting down for 65-75% of cases located primarily near Miami, Orlando, Tampa and Jacksonville ( the larger cities). A very small percentage of cases and deaths are located in our 3 counties, and even less in The Villages.

Perhaps due to good social distancing.....but at some point we need people to be able to get back to work to support their families. How long should areas that have low numbers of virus patients continue to keep businesses shut down?

GoodLife 04-28-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Yucatan2 (Post 1755118)
Perusing the floridahealthcovid19.gov website this morning. There have been roughly 32000 cases in FL, with 5000 people hospitalized at some point (NOT currently hospitalized). Dade county:11440 (37%), Broward 4670 (15%), Palm Beach 2705 (9%), and Orange county 1276 (4%)....these four counties account for 65% of the cases in the entire state. Continuing...Hillsborough 1015 (3%), Duval 965(3%), and Lee 935 (3%) adds up to 74% of all cases in FL.

Lake county 211 cases Sumter 173, Marion 148 at 1% each, 3% total.

Of those cases, Ocala (Marion) had 109, Clermont (Lake)78, The Villages (Sumter)69, Bushnell (Sumter) 57, Leesburg (Lake) 32, Lake Panasoffkee (Sumter) 21, Summerfield (Marion) 18, Tavares (Lake)16, Mount Dora (Lake)14, Groveland (Lake)13, Mascotte (Lake)12, Lady Lake (Lake)10, Citra (Marion)7, Wildwood (Sumter) 7, Webster (Sumter) 7, The Villages (Lake) 7, and Lady Lake (Sumter) 6.

There were a few more towns with 5 or less cases cumulative, since counting began. So, I get 86 cases actually in The Villages to this point.

Further checking on hospitalizations, at this point at SOME TIME during their illness, Lake has had 58, Sumter 40, and Marion 20. Deaths: Lake 10, Sumter 12, and Marion 4.

Concluding....in my observation the entire state of FL is shutting down for 65-75% of cases located primarily near Miami, Orlando, Tampa and Jacksonville ( the larger cities). A very small percentage of cases and deaths are located in our 3 counties, and even less in The Villages.

Perhaps due to good social distancing.....but at some point we need people to be able to get back to work to support their families. How long should areas that have low numbers of virus patients continue to keep businesses shut down?

You might want to take into account numerous antibody studies showing much larger numbers of people who were infected with virus at some point. Asymptomatic carriers is unknown at this point.

I do agree we need to get younger healthier people at less risk back to work.

bumpygreens 04-28-2020 01:03 PM

Corona viruses were first discovered about 55 years ago. Nobody has ever developed an effective vaccine against any corona virus. Our record of producing cures for viral infections is dismal. Hepatitis C is a notable and rare exception. Based on past performance, a vaccine isn't likely anytime soon, and a cure is even less likely. The only strategy that has been reliable against a viral outbreak is containment. That option was denied to us by the secretive, corrupt and incompetent centralized government that controls ground zero. Had they been open and honest in week one, this could have been contained. They waited until week six.

With containment no longer an option, we only had two choices: get hit fast and get it over with, or get hit slowly. Neither is very palatable. Highly inaccurate models scared us into the latter option. With all our faults and diverging political ideologies, America is still largely a moral and compassionate country. The thought of doctors forced to decide who is worth treating and who is not while more than two million of us died in a matter of a few months was horrifying. Mitigation wouldn't stop the virus, but at least it would slow its spread enough that more people could receive treatment.

Fast forward six weeks. We now know that the models were off by a factor of twenty. Serology studies are telling us that for every person who developed symptoms, at least five more of us have been exposed and developed antibodies. We still don't know what that means exactly for the long term, but it seems hopeful. The exponential curve of infections has been flattened and our hospitals haven't been overrun. We have learned how to mitigate our exposure, and we've learned who among us is most at risk.

I think it's time we got our senses back. The SARS epidemic in 2002-2003 was a corona virus. There still isn't an effective vaccine. We can't remain locked up hoping for something that may not come. Testing is becoming more widely available with faster results. Identifying and quarantining the infected will be easier. The most vulnerable can self-isolate. We can all practice mitigation. But we need to get back to work while there is still something to come back to.

billethkid 04-28-2020 01:17 PM

I know I am off topic, just inspired by the last comments of prior post.

Current stay at home order for FL expires Thursday, 4/30.

We need for the governor to put the same priority on the small business as he has for the beaches.

Today is 4/28.....absolutely no excuse to not be advised what the plan is starting 5/1.......until or unless he does or says (SOMETHING)......by his order, it is back to business as usual effective 5/1!?!?

My experience thus far trying to contact him/his office, it does not work with the governor or his office or his aids or whoever.

Most responsible communicators in government at a minimum have an auto reply system that acknowledges receipt of the contact....FL governor system....nothing!!!

But why the rush....it is only 4/28!!!!!:shocked:

Villageswimmer 04-28-2020 01:22 PM

I wrote, too. No response.

JSR22 04-28-2020 01:27 PM

The Governor is having a press conference tomorrow. He was interviewed at the White House this afternoon and said there will not be much difference in Phase 1 from current restrictions. He stated the opening will be "baby steps".

Girlcopper 04-29-2020 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yucatan2 (Post 1755118)
Perusing the floridahealthcovid19.gov website this morning. There have been roughly 32000 cases in FL, with 5000 people hospitalized at some point (NOT currently hospitalized). Dade county:11440 (37%), Broward 4670 (15%), Palm Beach 2705 (9%), and Orange county 1276 (4%)....these four counties account for 65% of the cases in the entire state. Continuing...Hillsborough 1015 (3%), Duval 965(3%), and Lee 935 (3%) adds up to 74% of all cases in FL.

Lake county 211 cases Sumter 173, Marion 148 at 1% each, 3% total.

Of those cases, Ocala (Marion) had 109, Clermont (Lake)78, The Villages (Sumter)69, Bushnell (Sumter) 57, Leesburg (Lake) 32, Lake Panasoffkee (Sumter) 21, Summerfield (Marion) 18, Tavares (Lake)16, Mount Dora (Lake)14, Groveland (Lake)13, Mascotte (Lake)12, Lady Lake (Lake)10, Citra (Marion)7, Wildwood (Sumter) 7, Webster (Sumter) 7, The Villages (Lake) 7, and Lady Lake (Sumter) 6.

There were a few more towns with 5 or less cases cumulative, since counting began. So, I get 86 cases actually in The Villages to this point.

Further checking on hospitalizations, at this point at SOME TIME during their illness, Lake has had 58, Sumter 40, and Marion 20. Deaths: Lake 10, Sumter 12, and Marion 4.

Concluding....in my observation the entire state of FL is shutting down for 65-75% of cases located primarily near Miami, Orlando, Tampa and Jacksonville ( the larger cities). A very small percentage of cases and deaths are located in our 3 counties, and even less in The Villages.

Perhaps due to good social distancing.....but at some point we need people to be able to get back to work to support their families. How long should areas that have low numbers of virus patients continue to keep businesses shut down?

Yeah, well, its been said many times WHY the state is shut down. Close things in one place and not another and people will crowd into the open place. A week or so ago, everyone was whining about people from othere areas coming into the villages and contaminating the air. Well, triple that amount of people would come if we stayed open and other areas closed

Cant have it both ways!

wwwson 04-29-2020 06:43 AM

Biased???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1755235)
I know I am off topic, just inspired by the last comments of prior post.

Current stay at home order for FL expires Thursday, 4/30.

We need for the governor to put the same priority on the small business as he has for the beaches.

Today is 4/28.....absolutely no excuse to not be advised what the plan is starting 5/1.......until or unless he does or says (SOMETHING)......by his order, it is back to business as usual effective 5/1!?!?

My experience thus far trying to contact him/his office, it does not work with the governor or his office or his aids or whoever.

Most responsible communicators in government at a minimum have an auto reply system that acknowledges receipt of the contact....FL governor system....nothing!!!

But why the rush....it is only 4/28!!!!!:shocked:


Clearly some of the post and comments are indications of the posters bias. The Governor has not placed any priority on opening the beaches as suggested. If truth be told the counties have been in control of the access to the beaches and it would seem they still are as some have relaxed restrictions. Not everything or anyone has been perfect. I think when this is over it will show what genuine leadership looks like and we will also see who, no matter what, will be critical, just because.

amexsbow 04-29-2020 08:44 AM

Read today's Wall Street Journal. Covid will not disappear. Sooner or later everyone will get it. With a vaccine there is a chance of a milder case or none at all. But it, like all the other viruses will not go away. We will just have to go on with our lives and hope we do not get a fatal case. But we will be exposed to it at some time.

RedBoneJones 04-29-2020 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yucatan2 (Post 1755118)
Perusing the floridahealthcovid19.gov website this morning. There have been roughly 32000 cases in FL, with 5000 people hospitalized at some point (NOT currently hospitalized). Dade county:11440 (37%), Broward 4670 (15%), Palm Beach 2705 (9%), and Orange county 1276 (4%)....these four counties account for 65% of the cases in the entire state. Continuing...Hillsborough 1015 (3%), Duval 965(3%), and Lee 935 (3%) adds up to 74% of all cases in FL.

Lake county 211 cases Sumter 173, Marion 148 at 1% each, 3% total.

Of those cases, Ocala (Marion) had 109, Clermont (Lake)78, The Villages (Sumter)69, Bushnell (Sumter) 57, Leesburg (Lake) 32, Lake Panasoffkee (Sumter) 21, Summerfield (Marion) 18, Tavares (Lake)16, Mount Dora (Lake)14, Groveland (Lake)13, Mascotte (Lake)12, Lady Lake (Lake)10, Citra (Marion)7, Wildwood (Sumter) 7, Webster (Sumter) 7, The Villages (Lake) 7, and Lady Lake (Sumter) 6.

There were a few more towns with 5 or less cases cumulative, since counting began. So, I get 86 cases actually in The Villages to this point.

Further checking on hospitalizations, at this point at SOME TIME during their illness, Lake has had 58, Sumter 40, and Marion 20. Deaths: Lake 10, Sumter 12, and Marion 4.

Concluding....in my observation the entire state of FL is shutting down for 65-75% of cases located primarily near Miami, Orlando, Tampa and Jacksonville ( the larger cities). A very small percentage of cases and deaths are located in our 3 counties, and even less in The Villages.

Perhaps due to good social distancing.....but at some point we need people to be able to get back to work to support their families. How long should areas that have low numbers of virus patients continue to keep businesses shut down?

Florida is in the Top 10 cases confirmed in the US...and still counting...more testing will like see higher numbers at the Coleman prison as well..

State/territory Confirmed cases Deaths
New York 295,106 22,912
New Jersey 113,856 6,442
Massachusetts 58,302 3,153
Illinois 48,102 2,125
California 46,164 1,864
Pennsylvania 45,137 2,046
Michigan 39,262 3,568
Florida 32,848 1,171
Louisiana 27,286 1,801
Texas 26,357 719

Ronlynch@comcast.net 04-29-2020 09:14 AM

Great Analysis! I believe we could open up significant areas of the state while maintaining Social Distancing and New Business Sanitation Procedures as well as other Common Sense Precautions. The Villages is a Model for this given the number of folks outside walking, biking and gathering in small numbers on driveways (with Social Distancing). The critical point being that we are holding steady ~ 85 identified cases. There will always be Outliers but "You can't fix stupid".

Hifred 04-29-2020 10:26 AM

You close down to stop the spread. The numbers you sited are people who tested positive for Covid 19. The infection rates are much higher. This is because there was not enough testing. With Covid 19 you don't show symptoms for up to 14 days yet you are contagious. So you can go to a restaurant or out in public not run into anyone who looks sick but then you can catch the virus and become very ill. A virus needs a host. When you keep people apart the virus dies off when it does not have a host. If you bring people back together in restaurants, bars, etc. then the disease will begin spreading again if it is still viable and the numbers will shoot up. Although there are those that are asymptomatic they can get other people very sick. So they need to have wide spread testing to separate carriers. Had that been accomplished early on the virus would not have spread as fast and killed so many.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-29-2020 10:32 AM

Orlando was hit pretty high. There are people who WORK in the Villages - who don't actually live here. Some of them live in Orange County. Orange County has seen 1371 cases, and 33 deaths as of this morning. Not as bad as Miami of course. It's still significant though. And folks living there - come here to work, and some come to enjoy our squares and shops and restaurants (which are open to the public).

wwwson 04-29-2020 11:11 AM

No Surprise!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBoneJones (Post 1755591)
Florida is in the Top 10 cases confirmed in the US...and still counting...more testing will like see higher numbers at the Coleman prison as well..

State/territory Confirmed cases Deaths
New York 295,106 22,912
New Jersey 113,856 6,442
Massachusetts 58,302 3,153
Illinois 48,102 2,125
California 46,164 1,864
Pennsylvania 45,137 2,046
Michigan 39,262 3,568
Florida 32,848 1,171
Louisiana 27,286 1,801
Texas 26,357 719

As you look at this information no one should be surprised or shocked that Florida is in the top 10 states with confirmed cases. Florida is the third most populous state in the union and also is testing 1 in every well less than 100 residents. A true analysis needs to take all those factors into consideration.

nevjudbaker 04-29-2020 02:48 PM

Totally agree. No one did anything until the Mayors started shutting down the beaches.Then certain Mayors listened but others didn't. Schools were closed but kids were still meeting with their friends. The Government closed international travel. Even some people who were suppose to be quarantined still ignoed it. One father admitted he was in quarantine but still went to his father & daughters school dance. It was New York that really made people a believer. They ignored the requests & kook what happened. That is when it showed in large numbers anyone can die from it.


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