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blueash 06-25-2020 02:19 PM

It sure looks like a noose to this white person
 
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There was a lengthy thread, shut down by the moderator when it got nasty, regarding the investigation instigated by NASCAR after a noose was found at a race track.

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You know, I know And the FBI there was no noose. The media played right into making believe there was a noose hanging in the garage. In fact it was as stated by the FBI a door pull down rope. Bubba says he has prove it was a hanging noose but has yet to show the media.......can you say Bubba Smollett
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Fake Noose
First it wasn't even a noose. It was a rope tied to the door with a loop to pull the door down. Is anyone sorry? Nope. Let's use this to promote BLM.
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Nascar now has to suck it up and apologize.
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Just fake news - no investigation of actual facts.
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Sad to see NASCAR stoop to this BLM movement.
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Almost every bay has a rope with a noose that are used to pull down the garage bay doors. However, photos of Bubba's bay 4 garage on day of incident show only a much shorter rope and no noose.
The thread was titled
Nascar Noose story may be a hoax or case of mistaken identity
See those were the only two possibilities mentioned.

I could cite many more. This gist of the majority of postings on the thread was that there was no real noose, it was all fake news. Now more information is out including the actual unretouched, uncropped photo and data from NASCAR about the pull down ropes on every other garage door in its sport.

There was exactly ONE noose found in examining 1,684 stalls. ONE. And only 11 ropes tied in a knot out of 1,684 stalls. And this is a noose. It wasn't aimed at Mr. Wallace and may not have been made maliciously. But it is absolutely not a standard rope on a garage door. It was not an over-reaction or fake. It was not a hoax and it was not mistaken identity. It was a real noose, and the only rope at a NASCAR facility tied into a noose. And to those who are seemingly willingly blind to the reasons there was concern. I offer this photograph.

Shbullet 06-25-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1791900)
There was a lengthy thread, shut down by the moderator when it got nasty, regarding the investigation instigated by NASCAR after a noose was found at a race track.












The thread was titled
Nascar Noose story may be a hoax or case of mistaken identity
See those were the only two possibilities mentioned.

I could cite many more. This gist of the majority of postings on the thread was that there was no real noose, it was all fake news. Now more information is out including the actual unretouched, uncropped photo and data from NASCAR about the pull down ropes on every other garage door in its sport.

There was exactly ONE noose found in examining 1,684 stalls. ONE. And only 11 ropes tied in a knot out of 1,684 stalls. And this is a noose. It wasn't aimed at Mr. Wallace and may not have been made maliciously. But it is absolutely not a standard rope on a garage door. It was not an over-reaction or fake. It was not a hoax and it was not mistaken identity. It was a real noose, and the only rope at a NASCAR facility tied into a noose. And to those who are seemingly willingly blind to the reasons there was concern. I offer this photograph.

Why on earth would you start another thread on this?

blueash 06-25-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shbullet (Post 1791906)
Why on earth would you start another thread on this?

Because I live in the constant hope that someone just might, maybe just one, might re-examine their reflexive responses to anything that involves issues of race. That any story which includes POC feeling they have been victims of racism is a hoax. That while it is not possible to ever expect white people to understand on anything more than an intellectual basis what living as a POC is like, I hope some would not dismiss their concerns, their pain, their worldview as a fake and a hoax. So I present this proof that those statements I listed were wrong. 100% wrong. And that whatever preconceived notions led those people, who I carefully did not name, to make those statements might have a brief moment of thoughtfulness the next time an issue tied to race comes up

Number 10 GI 06-25-2020 03:30 PM

What/who is the source for this picture?

nututv 06-25-2020 03:57 PM

Yup, that's a noose alright and from memory, that looks like a stall off pit row. Only one problem. That piece of rope has never seen that stall. It's quite clearly photoshopped. Don't take my word either, ask anyone that knows their way around the fantastic Adobe product.
1. If you have a way of blowing it up (no, a magnifier won't cut it) you'll see three things that are dead giveaways. Ropes are weaved so why is the vertical part prior to the knot straight? In between each weave, the rope is physically narrower correct. So why is the background perfectly straight?
2. Why do the pixels of the background get so distorted where they meet the rope?
3. Look closely at the noose portion of the rope. (again, blown up) Why does it have a faint glow to it?
4. And knot to mention the obvious but... that's the cleanest, most perfect piece of rope I've ever seen in a garage. Sorry, it's a fake!
Nice try to whoever did it but that's about 20 minutes work I'd guess not including finding a bay pic and a rope pic to use.

nututv 06-25-2020 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1791923)
What/who is the source for this picture?

Someones monitor with Photoshop open. lol

nututv 06-25-2020 04:06 PM

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Here's the proof. Whoever did it got sloppy on the blending of the background on the end of the rope coming out of the knot.
I won't call it fake news. Just a fake pic.

JIMROY 06-25-2020 04:12 PM

Wrong wrong wrong!
There are not 1684 stalls at Talladega........sorry, this make your point moot.

jacksonbrown 06-25-2020 04:24 PM

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Tying the hook.

nututv 06-25-2020 04:27 PM

Talladega Pit Stall layout. We seem to be missing a few hundred stalls. haha
https://i0.wp.com/ifantasyrace.com/w...ions.png?w=780

Velvet 06-25-2020 04:33 PM

I don’t know much about nooses. I do know tying knots from boating. It doesn’t look like much of a knot to me, and I don’t think you could hang anyone with it - but what matters is that it is symbolic. People took it for a noose. That is insulting and even frightening.

GoPacers 06-25-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1791956)
Here's the proof. Whoever did it got sloppy on the blending of the background on the end of the rope coming out of the knot.
I won't call it fake news. Just a fake pic.

The photo in question is currently on the Fox News web site - referencing that it originally was taken by NASCAR security. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you - just saying that NASCAR says they took the photo...

NASCAR releases photo of '''noose''' found in Bubba Wallace'''s garage | Fox News

nututv 06-25-2020 04:42 PM

I'm in no way insinuating the OP is a Sheeple, he or she was fooled. It happens to us ALL on occasion, me included! All I'm saying here is this is a perfect reason I do not believe the media. My personal opinion is that no one should. And that is ANY media just in case any of you thought I leaned hard in any particular direction.
I think for myself and after doing research on any subject (if it concerns me or draws my interest all that much) I draw my own conclusion.
This particular S*** stirring report was not only showing a fake pic but their stall count was off by what, 1000? lol Real truth in reporting there.

ColdNoMore 06-25-2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1791900)
SNIP...>
There was exactly ONE noose found in examining 1,684 stalls. ONE. And only 11 ropes tied in a knot out of 1,684 stalls.

And this is a noose.


It wasn't aimed at Mr. Wallace and may not have been made maliciously. But it is absolutely not a standard rope on a garage door. It was not an over-reaction or fake. It was not a hoax and it was not mistaken identity.

It was a real noose, and the only rope at a NASCAR facility tied into a noose.

And to those who are seemingly willingly blind to the reasons there was concern. I offer this photograph.

KA:boom:

Thanks.
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In all honesty though, I wonder if the "1,684 stalls" number is either a typo (there isn't that many at just Talladega)...or came from the FBI looking at all of the other NASCAR tracks?

nututv 06-25-2020 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1791981)
The photo in question is currently on the Fox News web site - referencing that it originally was taken by NASCAR security. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you - just saying that NASCAR says they took the photo...

NASCAR releases photo of '''noose''' found in Bubba Wallace'''s garage | Fox News

See post about my thoughts on MSM and that includes FOX. That is why I haven't turned on a TV set in just over 4 years now. It's either bomb throwers or shows that do nothing but insult my intelligence, raise my BP and use up too many of my synapses.


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