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n8xwb 09-09-2021 08:08 AM

Am I Crazy? NO, THEY ARE!
 
I read this early today ----

"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) determined recently that America's founding documents may be "harmful or difficult" for some users to view since they reflect "outdated, biased, offensive, and possibly violent views and opinions."

dewilson58 09-09-2021 08:16 AM

Yes they iz.

Ecuadog 09-09-2021 08:27 AM

I'm thinkin' that the pendulum has gone quite far enough.

John41 09-09-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by n8xwb (Post 2000921)
I read this early today ----

"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) determined recently that America's founding documents may be "harmful or difficult" for some users to view since they reflect "outdated, biased, offensive, and possibly violent views and opinions."

This woke craziness will peak as did the insanity of the French Revolution when the mob turned on each other in a killing frenzy.

Stu from NYC 09-09-2021 08:38 AM

sickening

davem4616 09-09-2021 08:51 AM

there are far too many loony-tunes running around out there...you learn from history...you don't try to cover it up, or try to judge it through the eyes of the present

IMHO, among the mistakes that we've made was giving every kid a trophy for just showing up, so that their fragile feelings wouldn't be scared at a young age

we have a generation of people that grew up in a bubble and now aren't able to accept reality

we also have a lot of people in academia that are very biased....and seem to preach their own bias vs teach the course content...
then when these kids graduate and they realize they weren't prepared for the real world, they whine and pout and decide they're not going to pay off their college loans

the country I grew up in no longer exists

dewilson58 09-09-2021 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2000949)
there are far too many loony-tunes running around out there...

So true, made me laugh.

Aces4 09-09-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n8xwb (Post 2000921)
I read this early today ----

"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) determined recently that America's founding documents may be "harmful or difficult" for some users to view since they reflect "outdated, biased, offensive, and possibly violent views and opinions."


How do you think socialism gets a foothold without this diatribe?

metoo21 09-09-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2000949)

IMHO, among the mistakes that we've made was giving every kid a trophy for just showing up, so that their fragile feelings wouldn't be scared at a young age

we have a generation of people that grew up in a bubble and now aren't able to accept reality

Yep. Everyone is a winner!!

But seems they are too stupid to realize everything has scores. Sports, grades, employment reviews, etc.

justjim 09-09-2021 09:14 AM

Why look?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n8xwb (Post 2000921)
I read this early today ----

"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) determined recently that America's founding documents may be "harmful or difficult" for some users to view since they reflect "outdated, biased, offensive, and possibly violent views and opinions."

Why look at those records in the first place unless you were doing research? Most of us are way past that in our lives. I carried a pocket knife my Grandfather gave me to school for more than twelve years. Times have changed. Arguably for the better or worse depending on your point of view.

Bucco 09-09-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2000972)
Why look at those records in the first place unless you were doing research? Most of us are way past that in our lives. I carried a pocket knife my Grandfather gave me to school for more than twelve years. Times have changed. Arguably for the better or worse depending on your point of view.

While most of the posts on this thread have no idea of history and the motive for the thread and posts are of a nature that I find inexcusable, you make a valid point in many ways.

Times do change as you say, and keeping things in perspective and accurate to the times is important.

Few examples…..the swastika was a sign of good luck and fortune even used by US military in world WW1. It was hijacked by Hitler in the 30’s and now does not symbolize any good things at all.

Many of the changes made by the group hereby being accused, are to avoid political controversies or involvement. In order to preserve our history accurately AND in context with the times

There were actually court cases as recently as 2020 concerning photos that were blurred out to stay out of politics as they showed references that were distinctly politics.

YEP……looking at history requires context at every step. Without it, you are not reading history to understand things but for some other motive.

A serious researcher, that you mention, would appreciate really understanding our history

manaboutown 09-09-2021 09:45 AM

If these sick screwballs don't like it here let them move to Cuba, Venezuela or even Afghanistan.

Bucco 09-09-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2000989)
If these sick screwballs don't like it here let them move to Cuba, Venezuela or even Afghanistan.

Are you referring to The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) ???

DAVES 09-09-2021 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2000949)
there are far too many loony-tunes running around out there...you learn from history...you don't try to cover it up, or try to judge it through the eyes of the present

IMHO, among the mistakes that we've made was giving every kid a trophy for just showing up, so that their fragile feelings wouldn't be scared at a young age

we have a generation of people that grew up in a bubble and now aren't able to accept reality

we also have a lot of people in academia that are very biased....and seem to preach their own bias vs teach the course content...
then when these kids graduate and they realize they weren't prepared for the real world, they whine and pout and decide they're not going to pay off their college loans

the country I grew up in no longer exists

"the country I grew up in no longer exists." I have movies that prove it never did exist.
We had some 16mm typical home movie kind of stuff that were taken by my uncle.
We never had a 16mm projector so I had never seen them. I was like 4 and my sister like 5. I recall eating those two stick ice pops and both may parents and my grandparents making me go back to pick up the trash that I had tossed. I assumed the streets were cleaner when we were kids. Well my movies show clearly trash blowing around the city streets.

I grew up POOR yet I had a solid family. Perhaps, the fault of my parents. I do not belong in our current world. I was taught if you need something, if you want something you work for it. Failure, simply was not an option to be considered.

Laker14 09-09-2021 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=n8xwb;2000921]I read this early today ----

"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) determined recently that America's founding documents may be "harmful or difficult" for some users to view since they reflect "outdated, biased, offensive, and possibly violent views and opinions."[/QUOT

Here's a link to the NARA site, explaining further that statement.
NARA’s Statement on Potentially Harmful Content | National Archives

I think what the site attempts to explain, at the top of the page, is that documents from the past, and subsequent archivists' descriptions of documents and events may contain language that, at the time, was accepted, but now is not.

As I read the page, I understand it to say that they are working to eliminate racist, and exclusionary or otherwise offensive language going forward, and providing insight as to the general attitudes of society at the time the historical documents were drafted and archived, but NOT to rewrite or change the original documents, or archivist's explanations as they were originally drafted.

I hope this is what they are saying and doing. It is important, in order to avoid repeating bad history, to know what it was, and not to whitewash it into what we wish it was, or what we would like to believe it was.


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