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margaretmattson 08-20-2023 09:48 PM

Central Pkwy/Eastport
 
Word has it, the Developer named the street near Eastport, Central Pkwy because when construction is complete, this area will now be the center of the Villages. If my calculations are correct, our population is going to explode approaching 1/2 million! A city possibly larger than Orlando or Tampa.

UPDATE: THANKS TO THOSE WHO HAVE CONFIRMED ON THIS THREAD THAT THIS IS NOT A RUMOR. WHEN YOU WANT THE TRUTH, JUST ASK TOTV! THANKS AGAIN! This information will help when I purchase a new home.

Here are my calculations. Population now 140,000. Multiply by two since Developer has stated Villages is going to double in size. A 280,OOO population.

But, this does not include the many outside developments in Lady Lake, Beaumont, or apartment buildings, townhouses, etc. It also does not include homes with children or multi-generational living.

Yikes! I can only imagine what traffic is going to be like in a few years. Overcrowded, everywhere? What do you think?

Some current populations for comparison:
Tampa: 395,276
Orlando: 312, 280
Miami: 452,952
Jacksonville: 954, 614

Please note: this is not a bash the south post. Population includes everyone. Please spare those remarks.

MrChip72 08-20-2023 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2247955)
Word has it, the Developer named the street near Eastport, Central Pkwy because when construction is complete, this area will now be the center of the Villages.

Who has been saying this? I don't think even the Developer knows where they center will end up being.

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2247955)
If my calculations are correct, our population is going to explode to nearly 1/2 million! A city much larger than Orlando or Tampa.

Here are my calculations. Population now 140,000. Multiply by two since Developer has stated Villages is going to double in size. A 280,OOO population.

But, this does not include the outside developments like Beaumont, or apartment buildings, townhouses, etc. It also does not include homes with children or multi-generational living.

Yikes! I can only imagine what traffic is going to be like in a few years. Overcrowded, everywhere? What do you think?

Some current populations for comparison:
Tampa: 395,276
Orlando: 312, 280
Miami: 452,952
Jacksonville: 954, 614

Please note: this is not a bash the south post. Population includes everyone. Please spare those remarks.

You're not factoring "metro area" of these cities. All of these cities are much older than The Villages and the historic area of each is only counted in the population figures as they're all surrounded by suburbs in each direction. Tampa's metro area is 3.2 million. The Tampa Bay area had a larger population than the Villages has now 100 years ago (mid 1920's).

I think "central parkway" was just chose as descriptive name for that area in general. It's a parkway that goes up the center of that particular area.

margaretmattson 08-20-2023 10:31 PM

.[/QUOTE] Hopefully, you are correct about the naming of Central Pkwy and it is just another one of those rumors. I have heard it several times and am starting to believe it. A few people told me they read the Developer purchased enough land to build for 23 yrs. I have experienced the Villages population sweltering to 140,000 from a a few thousand. In my eyes, anything is possible. I have lived it! If there is land, they are going to build.

Funny, how things get in your head! This is why I am asking, want to hear from people who are "in the know". Anyone know how much available land the developer has purchased? And, if there is a significant amount of available land for other developments?

Note: Did not include the metro areas, I was explicitly talking about the cities themselves for comparison. Including metro areas like Fruitland park, Bellevue, Oxford, etc, makes the population numbers worse.

Altavia 08-21-2023 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2247955)
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Here are my calculations. Population now 140,000. Multiply by two since Developer has stated Villages is going to double in size. A 280,OOO population.
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Assuming on average:

Construction rate is about 5,000 homes per year.

Occupancy is 1.7 people per home.

Population growth would be 8,500/yr

It will take about 16yrs to add 140,000 residents.

Marathon Man 08-21-2023 06:28 AM

Around here "word has it" is usually a good story and seldom accurate.

asianthree 08-21-2023 06:33 AM

I missed my pedicure appointment this month so have been up on the gossip of Central Parkway.

But unless You are family, one has no idea the inter work of the developer, until they choose, or if they choose to make something public.

So guessing is all this thread is.

Bogie Shooter 08-21-2023 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2247997)
Around here "word has it" is usually a good story and seldom accurate.

Also, “I have heard it several times and am starting to believe it.”

NoMo50 08-21-2023 07:08 AM

Look at it this way: The Developer is now into their 4th generation building homes and amenities in The Villages. A safe assumption would be that as long as there is available land to develop, and the demand for new homes continues, they will continue to build and expand. I doubt most of us living here now will live to see the end of it.

Michael 61 08-21-2023 08:14 AM

I recently moved here with eyes “wide open”, knowing about the future development and growth - this actually played into my decision to move here - there is a vibrancy that comes with growth - so the place doesn’t feel like an “old folks home” and sedate like so many other 55+ communities throughout the US that I visited. I can’t wait for all the new restaurants / amenities / entertainment options that will come with Eastport, Middleton and beyond! I guess if I was wanting to live I’m a sleepy retirement hamlet, I would choose to live someplace else.

Stu from NYC 08-21-2023 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2247995)
Assuming on average:

Construction rate is about 5,000 homes per year.

Occupancy is 1.7 people per home.

Population growth would be 8,500/yr

It will take about 16yrs to add 140,000 residents.

They will stop building when they run out of land that is available at the price they are willing to pay. We will all be long gone when that happens.

JohnN 08-21-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2247995)
It will take about 16yrs to add 140,000 residents.

16 years and I won't care

Stu from NYC 08-21-2023 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2248078)
16 years and I won't care

The next generation living here will get to worry.

VApeople 08-21-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2247955)
Overcrowded, everywhere? What do you think?

We have been here for 7 years and we think things are better than ever. We enjoy all of the new amenities in the Southern Area, except for the wretched Sawgrass area.

kansasr 08-21-2023 11:20 AM

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Hopefully, you are correct about the naming of Central Pkwy and it is just another one of those rumors. I have heard it several times and am starting to believe it. A few people told me they read the Developer purchased enough land to build for 23 yrs. I have experienced the Villages population sweltering to 140,000 from a a few thousand. In my eyes, anything is possible. I have lived it! If there is land, they are going to build.

Funny, how things get in your head! This is why I am asking, want to hear from people who are "in the know". Anyone know how much available land the developer has purchased? And, if there is a significant amount of available land for other developments?

Note: Did not include the metro areas, I was explicitly talking about the cities themselves for comparison. Including metro areas like Fruitland park, Bellevue, Oxford, etc, makes the population numbers worse.[/QUOTE]

If you look at the map on The Villages web site it clearly outlines the land they currently own for development. If you look at the adjacent properties to all of this, there is no significant acreage available, mostly individual family lots. The only large adjacent acreage is about 3400 acres owned by First Berkshire in Lake County, west of the turnpike and south of CR 470. I would image they would want a hefty return on their investment here.

I would seem there is more than enough available land to keep building for quite some time.

charlie1 08-21-2023 11:24 AM

if you go to the Villages app and search homes, you can change the view to "MAP" This shows you the land where the developer is planning to build residences. There is a huge area still south of 470 that is owned by them. Almost down to Centerville. There has also been a couple of articles that the Villages has bought more land South but right now these purchases are not attached to the land owned without the purchase of the parcel in between. Based on the information available today, Central Parkway is probably aptly names.


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