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jebartle 07-27-2024 05:38 AM

Debates and "The Gong Show"
 
Wouldn't it be great when truth really mattered??? I can remember in debate club when that was a priority, hmmm! The good ole days. Loved that show.

ThirdOfFive 07-27-2024 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2353423)
Wouldn't it be great when truth really mattered??? I can remember in debate club when that was a priority, hmmm! The good ole days. Loved that show.

"What is Truth?" (Pontius Pilate)

I think ol' Pontius made a valid point. If the definition of Truth was elusive in his day, then it is multiples times multiples more so today. Pilate didn't have to contend with the internet and "social" media. I can think of no point or belief so outrageous that you most likely cannot find hundreds of people agreeing with it in just a few mouse clicks, and in just a few more clicks find mountains of "data" to support it--as well as a variety of pundits and commentators more than willing to back it up.

I used to think that the atomic bomb was the biggest threat to our civilization. No longer. that threat is now Big Media.

We're light-years away from Uncle Walter being The Most Trusted Man In America.

jebartle 07-27-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2353474)
"What is Truth?" (Pontius Pilate)

I think ol' Pontius made a valid point. If the definition of Truth was elusive in his day, then it is multiples times multiples more so today. Pilate didn't have to contend with the internet and "social" media. I can think of no point or belief so outrageous that you most likely cannot find hundreds of people agreeing with it in just a few mouse clicks, and in just a few more clicks find mountains of "data" to support it--as well as a variety of pundits and commentators more than willing to back it up.

I used to think that the atomic bomb was the biggest threat to our civilization. No longer. that threat is now Big Media.

We're light-years away from Uncle Walter being The Most Trusted Man In America.

Granted, truth can be elusive, but when black becomes white and visa-versa, than we've gone too far. What I think would be fun, is the "Gong Show", we need some giggles in the world, Right?

fdpaq0580 07-27-2024 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2353423)
Wouldn't it be great when truth really mattered?

Yes.

ThirdOfFive 07-27-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2353524)
Granted, truth can be elusive, but when black becomes white and visa-versa, than we've gone too far. What I think would be fun, is the "Gong Show", we need some giggles in the world, Right?

True enough. I remember back decades (before the Gong Show) a TV spoof about poor performers getting a hook (sort of like a shepherd's staff) around the neck and pulled offstage when their performance warranted it. Sorta like a Gong Show predecessor. I did enjoy Chuck Barris and his panel though. Terrible performers got their just comeuppance instantly. How unlike the world today!

fdpaq0580 07-27-2024 11:08 AM

I seem to recall that the gong show "acts" were not real acts. Just the same cast members pretending to be various outrageous acts and everyone was in on it. The panelists often times waited a looong time, faking indecision as to whether to hit the gong or not. It was silly, not unlike the 3 stooges.

Stu from NYC 07-27-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2353562)
I seem to recall that the gong show "acts" were not real acts. Just the same cast members pretending to be various outrageous acts and everyone was in on it. The panelists often times waited a looong time, faking indecision as to whether to hit the gong or not. It was silly, not unlike the 3 stooges.

Did not know that but it was a fun show

Fredster 07-27-2024 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2353562)
I seem to recall that the gong show "acts" were not real acts. Just the same cast members pretending to be various outrageous acts and everyone was in on it. The panelists often times waited a looong time, faking indecision as to whether to hit the gong or not. It was silly, not unlike the 3 stooges.

I often watched the show, and did some current research, and that wasnโ€™t necessarily true!

Topspinmo 07-27-2024 04:20 PM

The truth is only in your mindโ€ฆ..

fdpaq0580 07-27-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 2353644)
I often watched the show, and did some current research, and that wasnโ€™t necessarily true!

Didn't say it was. But I do recall an interview with someone where I got that impression.

Stu from NYC 07-27-2024 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2353677)
Didn't say it was. But I do recall an interview with someone where I got that impression.

Irregardless of that would love to be a gonger

fdpaq0580 07-27-2024 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2353684)
Irregardless of that would love to be a gonger

I know. I love silly stuff too. I was a huge Soupy Sales fan as well as Peewee's Playhouse and Monty Python's Flying Circus. Laughing is good for you. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ต*๐Ÿ’ซ

PJ_Smiley 07-28-2024 02:13 AM

A friend I grew up with was the lead singer in a rock band in our home state in the early 70's. He was a winner on one of the Gong shows. Some of the acts were made up and stupid, but some of the performers (even some truly bad ones) were real people.

SaucyJim 07-28-2024 06:45 AM

[QUOTE=ThirdOfFive;2353474]"What is Truth?" (Pontius Pilate)

Pontius Pilate, eh? I feel for him. He invented Pilates all those years ago and did not live long enough to collect any royalties.

Two things of note about The Gong Show: Howie Mandel & The Unknown Comic.

Caymus 07-28-2024 08:55 AM

Gene Gene the Dancing Machine was the best part.


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