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PennBF 11-10-2016 09:15 AM

Political Forum
 
Has TOTV now opened up to all comments, etc regarding "Political Talk" and there are no restrictions regarding the normal input from members?:police:

TOTV Team 11-11-2016 08:38 AM

We moved this to the TOTV support section because the users on TOTV would not be able to answer this but the Admin/Mods would need to be asked about any changes to the TOTV format.

There has not been any changes in the rules on politics. No political comments are allowed in the general forums. If you like you can subscribe to the Political forums. When you post your user name is hidden and shows as guest unless you use Tap A Talk a 3rd party app which we don't control. The political forums are not moderated by TOTV and are self moderated.

njbchbum 11-11-2016 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1318606)
We moved this to the TOTV support section because the users on TOTV would not be able to answer this but the Admin/Mods would need to be asked about any changes to the TOTV format.

There has not been any changes in the rules on politics. No political comments are allowed in the general forums. If you like you can subscribe to the Political forums. When you post your user name is hidden and shows as guest unless you use Tap A Talk a 3rd party app which we don't control. The political forums are not moderated by TOTV and are self moderated.

How do I get the political posts removed from when I click on the menu tab 'new posts'? I prefer going directly to that forum if/when I wish to peruse there.

CFrance 11-11-2016 10:44 AM

You can't. It's broken and they can't seem to get it fixed. Now more than ever, the political forum needs to be separated from the general forum.

justjim 11-11-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1318686)
You can't. It's broken and they can't seem to get it fixed. Now more than ever, the political forum needs to be separated from the general forum.

I agree it's broken and has been for too long. The new political posts showing up with others needs to definitely be fixed. You don't have to read them, true, but the political posts dominate the new post forum. Why this can't be fixed is above my pay grade but there must be a solution for this issue. There are much "bigger" issues in the world but.......if we can't solve the little ones what hope is there to tackle the larger ones?

Polar Bear 11-11-2016 11:57 AM

Political Forum
 
Yeah. And if ToTV was really on top of things technically, "Guest" would show up as political post author on Tapatalk too. That is NOT beyond ToTV's control.

Seeing all the actual forum names on all political posts will never stop being a bit disturbing. (Yes, they're really there for those of you who may not have been aware.)

TOTV Team 11-11-2016 11:59 AM

We are working on the New Post issue where Political doesn't show in your new posts. Thanks for your patience.

TOTV Team 11-11-2016 12:02 PM

Polar Bear - Tap A Talk is a 3rd party app that we have no control over. We have sent several notices out regarding this. We encourage users to use our mobile version vs. Tap A Talk and that would not be an issue. It is not about us being technical. You are subscribed to a 3rd party program that we have no control over.

justjim 11-11-2016 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1318710)
We are working on the New Post issue where Political doesn't show in your new posts. Thanks for your patience.

Thank you for a reply and listening to our thoughts and concerns. Good luck in solving this technical issue.

TOTV Team 11-11-2016 12:09 PM

njbchbum and justjim - you are both subscribed to the Political forums. That is why you are seeing the political post in your new post. If you don't want to see them if you unsubscribe from the political forum you should no longer see them.

From our testing this is fixed. We CANNOT control Tap A Talk, use our mobile version. If you are subscribed to political forums you will see this in new posts.

If you see anything else that seems to be an issue please let us know.

njbchbum 11-11-2016 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1318710)
We are working on the New Post issue where Political doesn't show in your new posts. Thanks for your patience.

Thanx! Looking forward to that resolution!

Polar Bear 11-11-2016 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1318712)
Polar Bear - Tap A Talk is a 3rd party app that we have no control over. We have sent several notices out regarding this. We encourage users to use our mobile version vs. Tap A Talk and that would not be an issue. It is not about us being technical. You are subscribed to a 3rd party program that we have no control over.

As we've agreed to disagree on before...

Of course you cannot control Tap A Talk, but you certainly CAN control ToTV and how it is seen by 3rd party apps. If ToTV does not control how it is seen by 3rd party apps...well...it should.

Chi-Town 11-11-2016 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1318709)
Yeah. And if ToTV was really on top of things technically, "Guest" would show up as political post author on Tapatalk too. That is NOT beyond ToTV's control.

Seeing all the actual forum names on all political posts will never stop being a bit disturbing. (Yes, they're really there for those of you who may not have been aware.)

Yes, they are there. It's the same five of six posters. A couple of them reply to their own posts or post three in a row thinking that we only see guest. Most are repetitive talking points. But they all feed off each other starting new threads ad nauseum. Any opposing viewpoint is pounced upon by the group. They get nasty.

Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk

SALYBOW 11-11-2016 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1318686)
You can't. It's broken and they can't seem to get it fixed. Now more than ever, the political forum needs to be separated from the general forum.

:bigbow:

Mikeod 11-11-2016 04:39 PM

Strange. When I log in and go to New Posts, I don't get any Political threads. Wonder why some people do.

Schaumburger 11-11-2016 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1318804)
Strange. When I log in and go to New Posts, I don't get any Political threads. Wonder why some people do.

Mike, According to the TOTV administrator, you have to subscribe to the political forum in order to see the posts in your "New Posts" list (see post 10 in this thread). I think that is why you don't see political posts/threads. I don't subscribe, so I don't see them either. Hope that helps.

Mikeod 11-11-2016 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1318809)
Mike, According to the TOTV administrator, you have to subscribe to the political forum in order to see the posts in your "New Posts" list (see post 10 in this thread). I think that is why you don't see political posts/threads. I don't subscribe, so I don't see them either. Hope that helps.

Makes sense. Thanks.

CFrance 11-11-2016 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1318804)
Strange. When I log in and go to New Posts, I don't get any Political threads. Wonder why some people do.

It seems to depend on what browser you're using. I use Firefox for Windows 7, and I don't see political posts when I click on New Posts, just classifieds. However, if I click on
Today's Posts, I get all the political posts as well as general forum posts.

Other people using other types of operating systems and browsers are seeing political and classifieds on different combinations of New Posts and Today's Posts. it's been going on ever since their update a month or so ago.

Carla B 11-11-2016 06:00 PM

I think you're right, CFrance. On Firefox for Windows 10 I see both political and classifieds when I click on "New Posts." Plus "New Posts' includes 12 pages of "New" posts back to Nov. 6, the date the forum says I last logged on. That's another error.

TOTV Team 11-11-2016 09:37 PM

I'd try clearing your browser's cache and see if the same issue persists.

justjim 11-12-2016 01:19 AM

I agree it may depend on the browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1318835)
It seems to depend on what browser you're using. I use Firefox for Windows 7, and I don't see political posts when I click on New Posts, just classifieds. However, if I click on
Today's Posts, I get all the political posts as well as general forum posts.

Other people using other types of operating systems and browsers are seeing political and classifieds on different combinations of New Posts and Today's Posts. it's been going on ever since their update a month or so ago.

I agree it may depend on your browser. I use safari on my I-6 phone and prior to the so called update I did not see political posts when I click on new posts. Now I do along with general forum posts. Admin says if I unsubscribe to the political forum I will no longer see the political posts when I click on new posts. I'm sure that is true and that makes sense. Looks like the update of a few weeks ago has put me in the position of making a choice on this issue.

rubicon 11-12-2016 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1318717)
njbchbum and justjim - you are both subscribed to the Political forums. That is why you are seeing the political post in your new post. If you don't want to see them if you unsubscribe from the political forum you should no longer see them.

From our testing this is fixed. We CANNOT control Tap A Talk, use our mobile version. If you are subscribed to political forums you will see this in new posts.

If you see anything else that seems to be an issue please let us know.

TOTV Team: As you know I am interested in the continuing of Political Talk. I understand why some members would not want to be a part of that community. I question some members who make claims that they know who and how some members of political Talk manipulate threads. Frankly I am at a loss because I can't tell one guest from another beside my only interest is in responding to content and since I am not one who experiences trigger warnings, micro aggressions, etc I attempt to respond in a cogent and civil manner.

You folks indicated that all a member had to do was unsubscribe from Political Talk and it would be removed from the general board. IS THAT ALSO TRUE OF CLASSIFIED POSTS WHICH SEEM TO DOMINATE MY GENERAL BOARD?

Personal Best Regards:

njbchbum 11-12-2016 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1318717)
njbchbum and justjim - you are both subscribed to the Political forums. That is why you are seeing the political post in your new post. If you don't want to see them if you unsubscribe from the political forum you should no longer see them.

From our testing this is fixed. We CANNOT control Tap A Talk, use our mobile version. If you are subscribed to political forums you will see this in new posts.

If you see anything else that seems to be an issue please let us know.

So lemme get this straight....as a subscriber to political there is no option BUT to see the forum threads in 'new posts'.

In order to NOT to see the forum posts in 'new posts' one must unsubscribe; and thereby NOT be able to view political posts on the occasion one wants to peruse same - without subscribing again, reading select posts and unsubscribing again?

TOTV Team 11-12-2016 09:38 AM

By default no user is subscribed in the Political forums. The user would have to choose this by selecting subscribing to political forums. If you are not subscribed you will not see the political forum posts when you click new posts. If you are subscribed then you will see them in your new posts.

We have had success in the way the political forums have been going over the past 12+ months especially during one of the most heated and debated elections of our time. We plan to continue in the manner that we have over the past 12+ months as it seems to have served the majority well.

We however do want to make sure that it is functioning correctly as it has for the past 12+ months.

The only caveat to this is we can't control the programming that TapATalk runs. We have only about 30 users a day that use TapATalk compared to the thousands a day that do not. If this is a concern do not use TapATalk but use our mobile site.

ColdNoMore 11-12-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1319078)
By default no user is subscribed in the Political forums. The user would have to choose this by selecting subscribing to political forums. If you are not subscribed you will not see the political forum posts when you click new posts. If you are subscribed then you will see them in your new posts.

We have had success in the way the political forums have been going over the past 12+ months especially during one of the most heated and debated elections of our time. We plan to continue in the manner that we have over the past 12+ months as it seems to have served the majority well.

We however do want to make sure that it is functioning correctly as it has for the past 12+ months.

The only caveat to this is we can't control the programming that TapATalk runs. We have only about 30 users a day that use TapATalk compared to the thousands a day that do not. If this is a concern do not use TapATalk but use our mobile site.

Is the Political Forum considered 'fixed' at this point?

Specifically, will the names of posters still be continued to be shown on the left, when the 'quote post' button is clicked?

I hope so, as it is enlightening to see the responses from some people.

ajbrown 11-12-2016 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1319078)
By default no user is subscribed in the Political forums. The user would have to choose this by selecting subscribing to political forums. If you are not subscribed you will not see the political forum posts when you click new posts. If you are subscribed then you will see them in your new posts.

We have had success in the way the political forums have been going over the past 12+ months especially during one of the most heated and debated elections of our time. We plan to continue in the manner that we have over the past 12+ months as it seems to have served the majority well.

We however do want to make sure that it is functioning correctly as it has for the past 12+ months.

The only caveat to this is we can't control the programming that TapATalk runs. We have only about 30 users a day that use TapATalk compared to the thousands a day that do not. If this is a concern do not use TapATalk but use our mobile site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1319058)
So lemme get this straight....as a subscriber to political there is no option BUT to see the forum threads in 'new posts'.

In order to NOT to see the forum posts in 'new posts' one must unsubscribe; and thereby NOT be able to view political posts on the occasion one wants to peruse same - without subscribing again, reading select posts and unsubscribing again?

TOTV Team,

Thanks for managing the site. I could not tell from your reply if you plan to address njbchbum query. I like to view political posts, but not see them (or classified) when I click new posts.

njbchbum 11-12-2016 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1319078)
By default no user is subscribed in the Political forums. The user would have to choose this by selecting subscribing to political forums. If you are not subscribed you will not see the political forum posts when you click new posts. If you are subscribed then you will see them in your new posts.

We have had success in the way the political forums have been going over the past 12+ months especially during one of the most heated and debated elections of our time. We plan to continue in the manner that we have over the past 12+ months as it seems to have served the majority well.

We however do want to make sure that it is functioning correctly as it has for the past 12+ months.

The only caveat to this is we can't control the programming that TapATalk runs. We have only about 30 users a day that use TapATalk compared to the thousands a day that do not. If this is a concern do not use TapATalk but use our mobile site.

I get subscribing vs not subscribing. And I challenge the comment that the political forum has been functioning as it is today for the past 12 months.

Can you/will you address my inquiry about how to view the political forum on an occasional/as desired basis? Does that require subscribing - reading - responding if desired - and unsubscribing in order to read/participate occasionally andthus eliminate the forum posts when clicking on the 'new posts' menu tab on a regular basis?

TIA

Chi-Town 11-12-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1319114)
Is the Political Forum considered 'fixed' at this point?

Specifically, will the names of posters still be continued to be shown on the left, when the 'quote post' button is clicked?

I hope so, as it is enlightening to see the responses from some people.

I see all on Taparalk and the Android Marshmallow update and have for some time. That's where I've substituted the real screen names for nicknames. Especially for the extreme.

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

rubicon 11-12-2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1319078)
By default no user is subscribed in the Political forums. The user would have to choose this by selecting subscribing to political forums. If you are not subscribed you will not see the political forum posts when you click new posts. If you are subscribed then you will see them in your new posts.

We have had success in the way the political forums have been going over the past 12+ months especially during one of the most heated and debated elections of our time. We plan to continue in the manner that we have over the past 12+ months as it seems to have served the majority well.

We however do want to make sure that it is functioning correctly as it has for the past 12+ months.

The only caveat to this is we can't control the programming that TapATalk runs. We have only about 30 users a day that use TapATalk compared to the thousands a day that do not. If this is a concern do not use TapATalk but use our mobile site.

TOTV Team:

I have always appreciated your efforts, and especially in lieu of this thread more so now. you simply can't please all of the people all of the time. You would want to believe that the name of a thread would be sufficient to make a decision as to view or not view?

Personal Best Regards:

P.S. I like the "guest" username because it allows me to respond to content only and not be swayed one way or another because of positive/negative feelings about a poster. In other words it helps serve to remove ego from the discussion.

Fraugoofy 11-12-2016 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1318712)
Polar Bear - Tap A Talk is a 3rd party app that we have no control over. We have sent several notices out regarding this. We encourage users to use our mobile version vs. Tap A Talk and that would not be an issue. It is not about us being technical. You are subscribed to a 3rd party program that we have no control over.

But your "mobile version" is like a mini website fit to size on my phone. It's not really mobile app friendly. I know you know this already. Just pointing out the obvious. Peace out...

Sent from my SM-N910R4 using Tapatalk

Fraugoofy 11-12-2016 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1318994)
TOTV Team: As you know I am interested in the continuing of Political Talk. I understand why some members would not want to be a part of that community. I question some members who make claims that they know who and how some members of political Talk manipulate threads. Frankly I am at a loss because I can't tell one guest from another beside my only interest is in responding to content and since I am not one who experiences trigger warnings, micro aggressions, etc I attempt to respond in a cogent and civil manner.

You folks indicated that all a member had to do was unsubscribe from Political Talk and it would be removed from the general board. IS THAT ALSO TRUE OF CLASSIFIED POSTS WHICH SEEM TO DOMINATE MY GENERAL BOARD?

Personal Best Regards:

Chi-town and Polar Bear and I all use mostly Tapatalk and we can see everyone's screen name. Peace out...

Sent from my SM-N910R4 using Tapatalk

rubicon 11-13-2016 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1319364)
Chi-town and Polar Bear and I all use mostly Tapatalk and we can see everyone's screen name. Peace out...

Sent from my SM-N910R4 using Tapatalk

Well then that explains a lot. I do not own an android and was unaware of this app. I hope you all use this app in a good faith effort to maintain objectivity and fairness. Personally I liked the "guest"aspect of political talk because it focused on comments and not personalities/ego Cést la vie

Personal Best Regards:

ColdNoMore 11-13-2016 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1319364)
Chi-town and Polar Bear and I all use mostly Tapatalk and we can see everyone's screen name. Peace out...

Even without Tapatalk, you can currently hit 'Quote Post' (on any post), scroll down and see the user names to the left of each post.

That's how it is easy to see a certain new member...vying hard to become the top racist/bigot. :ohdear:

Fraugoofy 11-13-2016 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1319463)
Well then that explains a lot. I do not own an android and was unaware of this app. I hope you all use this app in a good faith effort to maintain objectivity and fairness. Personally I liked the "guest"aspect of political talk because it focused on comments and not personalities/ego Cést la vie

Personal Best Regards:

I use the app because I don't own a computer and the app is by far the easiest way to stay connected to TOTV. The "mobile version" of TOTV leaves a lot to be desired. Rubicon, I have always enjoyed your posts and find you to be utmost fair in your anaylsis.

Sent from my SM-N910R4 using Tapatalk

ajbrown 11-13-2016 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1319468)
Even without Tapatalk, you can currently hit 'Quote Post' (on any post), scroll down and see the user names to the left of each post.

That's how it is easy to see a certain new member...vying hard to become the top racist/bigot. :ohdear:

Ha, I never noticed that, thank you.

Polar Bear 11-13-2016 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1319463)
Well then that explains a lot. I do not own an android and was unaware of this app...

Just a quick FYI...

Tap A Talk is not just an Android app. It's also available for iDevices.

And I (and I would guess most users) use it for its convenience viewing any number of forums in a single place...not just to view Guest userID's on ToTV...heheh.

TOTV Team 11-13-2016 10:38 AM

The mobile version is a custom design to work on the mobile phone as the full TOTV website would be too difficult to operate.

If there is any specific suggestions on how to make the mobile better we are happy to entertain those.

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1319362)
But your "mobile version" is like a mini website fit to size on my phone. It's not really mobile app friendly. I know you know this already. Just pointing out the obvious. Peace out...

Sent from my SM-N910R4 using Tapatalk


TOTV Team 11-13-2016 10:39 AM

We would love to hear specific ideas on how to improve the mobile version.

Best Regards,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1319477)
I use the app because I don't own a computer and the app is by far the easiest way to stay connected to TOTV. The "mobile version" of TOTV leaves a lot to be desired. Rubicon, I have always enjoyed your posts and find you to be utmost fair in your anaylsis.

Sent from my SM-N910R4 using Tapatalk


TOTV Team 11-13-2016 10:44 AM

This should be 'Guest'. We will look into this.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1319114)
Is the Political Forum considered 'fixed' at this point?

Specifically, will the names of posters still be continued to be shown on the left, when the 'quote post' button is clicked?

I hope so, as it is enlightening to see the responses from some people.


TOTV Team 11-13-2016 10:54 AM

Some users have reported that when you click Quote Post that the user name appears.

Is this while using Tap A Talk? We tested and do not see that the website is doing this. If it is through Tap A Talk they do not allow us access to custom code any changes. So we cannot correct any functionality issues that occur between TOTV and TAT.


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