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another Linda 01-12-2014 02:41 AM

FL car registration by Snowbirds
 
We are NYS residents with NYS drivers licenses. My husband wants to buy a car, register it in FL, and leave it here. Is that possible? Anyone done it?

bobofmanawa 01-12-2014 05:08 AM

It's my understanding you must be a Florida resident to register an automobile in this state.

Golfingnut 01-12-2014 05:11 AM

I have a neighbor that has been here full time for 4 years with out of state lic plates on the car. Must not be something anyone is serious about.

Ohiogirl 01-12-2014 07:47 AM

maybe for insurance rates?
 
Maybe the car insurance rates are cheaper where they are from and maybe they are using a relative's address for their plate renewals, but I can tell you how Allstate insurance adjusters handled (or were supposed to) that before I retired (I had a claim involving this situation).

We paid the claim and referred to underwriting for future. Not sure they are still handling them that way. I think most policies say you must notify of any change of address. A lot depends on the insurance adjuster you happen to get assigned, and your policy and your carrier. That is actually true for many types of claims. Some will pick up on stuff like this, some won't. Some companies have a lot of exclusions in their policy's small print. Be very careful. If a carrier can legally deny a claim, they normally will (if they catch it). That is an adjuster's first task - is there coverage? There isn't necessarily coverage just because you pay a premium.

For instance, Progressive and Safeauto had a clause denying coverage if you were legally intoxicated and caused an accident. I am certainly not advocating drinking and driving, but if you one time had one too many wouldn't you want to be covered by insurance? Some carriers have clauses about driver must have active/current license - if you forgot to renew yours by 2 days, wouldn't you want to be covered? Or if you loaned your car to a grandchild who didn't tell you or didn't know they didn't have a current license? I doubt the agents (sometimes an agent might not even know this stuff) who sell the policies point this stuff out, and most people don't read thru (or can't understand anyway as I think most are written rather ambiguously) their policies before they get them.

You are taking chances if you do this. And sometimes carriers will pay a small claim to keep a customer but if it was a big one (like a fatality or a big injury claim that goes to court), they might deny. Same with healthcare policies that might be cheaper in another state - you need to get one in the state in which you are a legal resident.

Ohiogirl 01-12-2014 08:01 AM

Didn't answer the question, did I?
 
My previous post addressed the living here full-time, still having out-of-state car registration.

I think if you have 2 residences it's possible to have one registered here and one there legally, if that's where they are primarily garaged. But - it might depend on the state and the insurance carrier. For a while, we left one car in Ohio (registered there) and one was registered in Florida after we became Florida residents. I was up front with my insurance carrier (USAA) who didn't seem concerned. We had an address in Ohio for the renewals.

Now we are down to one car we drive back and forth, but since we're Florida residents, it's registered here. And yes, our insurance is higher in Florida, but I for one would not take the risk. Plus, part of being a legal Florida resident is registering your motor vehicle here. Not sure who checks that though, since there is no Florida income tax. I think we got Florida drivers' licenses and tags at the same time.

Harleyman 01-12-2014 09:28 AM

We live in Nova Scotia and did not have any problem with Allstate to insure a car to leave in the Villages. They will tell you what paperwork you need to prove your driving record and then issue the policy.

Ohiogirl 01-12-2014 09:38 AM

I think the issue is "can you be a full-time Florida resident (i.e., don't own a property in another state) and still register a car in your former state?" That's different that being a part-time resident.

IMO, yes you could do it, but no, it wouldn't be legal and you might not be covered by your insurance carrier if you try to get away with this.

LI SNOWBIRD 01-12-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by another Linda (Post 810351)
We are NYS residents with NYS drivers licenses. My husband wants to buy a car, register it in FL, and leave it here. Is that possible? Anyone done it?

we are from Long Island (snowbirds) and have a car registered here and another in NY. Easy-peasy only a bit expensive to register

doug4046 01-12-2014 10:24 AM

I am a resident of Michigan and own a car that we leave in Florida that is registered in Florida. I purchased it from a dealer so he handled the paper work but it wasn't a problem. It is insured with Allstate in Florida and they know my main residence is in Michigan. When the license renewal is due the state of Florida even sends the renewal forms and bill to my Michigan address

buggyone 01-12-2014 10:35 AM

Are the part time residents who have a car licensed in Florida and another in their homestate able to qualify for the $25000 homestead exception here in Florida?

2newyorkers 01-12-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 810487)
Are the part time residents who have a car licensed in Florida and another in their homestate able to qualify for the $25000 homestead exception here in Florida?

Homestead tax exemption is not relevant to which state your car is registered. Homestead is relevant to which state you claim residency. If you claim Florida as your residence you are entitled to the Homestead tax exemption. If you are also a resident of NY state you can not claim Homestead and NY Star program.

Ohiogirl 01-12-2014 11:23 AM

yes, if you claim Florida residency
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 810487)
Are the part time residents who have a car licensed in Florida and another in their homestate able to qualify for the $25000 homestead exception here in Florida?

you will probably lose any residency advantages from the other state, but you should check as each state's laws may differ. Our summer home is in Ohio - we cannot get the 2.5% resident occupied reduction on our property tax there, but we are much better off being Florida residents to get the $25,000 (I believe it's per person) homestead exemption here and no state income tax.

Everyone's tax situation is different.

CFrance 01-12-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohiogirl (Post 810407)
My previous post addressed the living here full-time, still having out-of-state car registration.

I think if you have 2 residences it's possible to have one registered here and one there legally, if that's where they are primarily garaged. But - it might depend on the state and the insurance carrier. For a while, we left one car in Ohio (registered there) and one was registered in Florida after we became Florida residents. I was up front with my insurance carrier (USAA) who didn't seem concerned. We had an address in Ohio for the renewals.

Now we are down to one car we drive back and forth, but since we're Florida residents, it's registered here. And yes, our insurance is higher in Florida, but I for one would not take the risk. Plus, part of being a legal Florida resident is registering your motor vehicle here. Not sure who checks that though, since there is no Florida income tax. I think we got Florida drivers' licenses and tags at the same time.

I can tell you who checks...the people where you go to apply for the FL homesteading for your property tax. We had to show our driver's licenses plus car registration to apply.

We have friends, one of whom became a FL resident, and one didn't. I think it was because of the gun laws in FL being easier than those in MI. They were not allowed homesteading on both homes. I believe he had to register his car in FL and get a FL driver's license to become a resident.

Ohiogirl 01-12-2014 01:01 PM

That's true
 
They do check - but if you have 2 cars, they don't know that.

GatorFan 01-12-2014 02:23 PM

You have to be a full time resident, have your auto insured in Florida, registered in Florida, drivers license in Florida and be registered to vote in Florida to claim homestead.

Average Guy 01-12-2014 02:42 PM

Here is what is stated at the top of the application form instructions for a Florida Homestead Exemption:

"Permanent Florida residency required on January 1."

gigim112 01-12-2014 02:46 PM

I would advise to go to Motor Vehicle to get the answers that you need.

kellyjam 01-12-2014 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by another Linda (Post 810351)
We are NYS residents with NYS drivers licenses. My husband wants to buy a car, register it in FL, and leave it here. Is that possible? Anyone done it?

We bought a new car here in Florida, registered it, and keep it garaged here. We had Geico insure the car. They also insure my other cars in NY. Insurance companies want to know just where the car is going to be kept.

CFrance 01-12-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kellyjam (Post 810723)
We bought a new car here in Florida, registered it, and keep it garaged here. We had Geico insure the car. They also insure my other cars in NY. Insurance companies want to know just where the car is going to be kept.

You were able to register the car in FL without a FL driver's license?

another Linda 01-12-2014 05:44 PM

Thanks for the feedback! We are not FL residents and for the near future plan to stay NY residents. So, given that, the homestead exemption isn't relevant. We just want a car to leave here and not have to take it back to NY every year to have it inspected. Our insurance is with USAA so we'll have to call them on Monday and make a trip to the DMV.

kellyjam 01-13-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 810725)
You were able to register the car in FL without a FL driver's license?

Yes that is correct. I showed them my NY license. No problems.

CFrance 01-13-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kellyjam (Post 811177)
Yes that is correct. I showed them my NY license. No problems.

Cool! There's your answer, Another Linda.

tommy steam 01-13-2014 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigim112 (Post 810630)
I would advise to go to Motor Vehicle to get the answers that you need.

Best answer!

somsyank 01-14-2014 11:50 AM

From Ithaca and just registered a car in Fl. Must have Fl drivers license. Cost to register around 400, auto insurance for me was more expensive than NY. I am not sure if the initial cost is a one time fee or paid every time a car is registered from out of state. Also had to change address for proof of insurance.

Jejuca 01-14-2014 11:56 AM

The best thing would be to check with The state.

Jejuca 01-14-2014 12:06 PM

This comes directly from the DMV site:
If you are a non-resident from another state who has purchased a vehicle in Florida, you may qualify to get temporary registration tags from a local county tax collector's office in order to legally drive the vehicle back to your state of residence before registering it in your home state. You will need to pay Florida sales tax and provide proper proof of insurance in order to get the temporary tags.

shighsmi 01-14-2014 12:15 PM

car license
 
I purchased a car here in October. I have an Indiana drivers license The car is titled and plated in FL. you do not have to give up your state license.

CFrance 01-14-2014 12:37 PM

We've now heard anecdotal evidence on both sides of the issue. Maybe it has to do with by whom you are unlucky or lucky enough to get served at the clerks' desks!

TrudyM 01-14-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorFan (Post 810609)
You have to be a full time resident, have your auto insured in Florida, registered in Florida, drivers license in Florida and be registered to vote in Florida to claim homestead.

Every state has their own rules and they can put a person in conflict.
Years ago when my parents moved to Florida for 7 months a year they had a real problem because New Hampshire requires business owners, and those working in the state, to have a New Hampshire license and plates, and Florida required Florida license and plates on the car. So Mom became a Florida resident (with homestead excemption) and Dad kept his legal residence as New Hampshire. The car was registered in Florida (and went back and forth) and the Truck was registered in New Hampshire. The judge threw out the tickets on my moms car in New Hampshire as he ruled it was perfectly acceptable for married couples to have separate residences and no law against it. But that was 35 years ago.

another Linda 01-14-2014 05:17 PM

OK, so here is what happened. We went to the FL DMV (called something different but I can't remember) next to the new library on 466a. To register the car in FL, we need to present a valid title (this one is FL), a bill of sale (they have the paper to fill out if from private owner), a valid driver's license for each owner (NY licenses are just fine), and proof of FL insurance. When we actually go to register the car, we must have the car there so they can validate the VIN#. And that is all -- except, oh yes, you need to pay the FL tax (6%) and the registration fee (based on weight of car). Easy-peasy. And by Thursday or Friday my husband will have a new toy, registered here, that he won't have to keep driving back to NY to have it inspected.

:coolsmiley:

JB in TV 01-14-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by another Linda (Post 811895)
OK, so here is what happened. We went to the FL DMV (called something different but I can't remember) next to the new library on 466a. To register the car in FL, we need to present a valid title (this one is FL), a bill of sale (they have the paper to fill out if from private owner), a valid driver's license for each owner (NY licenses are just fine), and proof of FL insurance. When we actually go to register the car, we must have the car there so they can validate the VIN#. And that is all -- except, oh yes, you need to pay the FL tax (6%) and the registration fee (based on weight of car). Easy-peasy. And by Thursday or Friday my husband will have a new toy, registered here, that he won't have to keep driving back to NY to have it inspected.

:coolsmiley:

Great information. Additionally, if you buy from a dealer, they will handle the registration for you. In fact, I don't believe you are able to register the new vehicle yourself.


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