Younger Residents
 

I heard there are a few new Villages where the residents are much younger..Does any one know which villages these are? This might be just a rumor, no clue :dontknow:

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As far as I know they are spread around. Some are adult children that live with their age qualified parent(s). Some of the residents are not 55. They got in under some obscure rule about a % group. Personally that sucks. But after living here for 6 years I find that rules can be bent for the developer's desires.

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Florida LAW says to be designated a 55+ Adult Community you have to have at least 80% of the homes occupied by one person 55 or older. Developer has nothing to do with that law.

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There is a misconception as to the 80% must be over 55. The law states that:

l. A resident or tenant occupying a home must be 55 or older (a spouse can be any age.)

2. An owner can be under 55 but can only spend a few weeks per year.

3. The developer can make a hardship exception, but in no case can the number of 55 and younger be LESS THAN 80%. That is where the misconception comes in. Three years ago I filed a complaint with Mr. Morse and his attorney that the Villages Sales Dept. was selling to ones under 55. They both agreed that this was wrong and he would notify the Sales Dept. At time, the practice was supposed to have ended. (that doesn't mean there aren't slip ups.

4. Since the deed restrictions spell this out, you can notify the district office of any violations....they will follow through. I know, because I filed a complaint and the tenant had to move out.

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A correction on my message. Item 3 should have read "the number of residents 55 or older can never be less than 80%", therefore limiting the number of hardship exceptions that can be given by the developer.

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Are you saying that you caused a resident to sell their home (or a tenant to move) because they were under 55?

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Found this on the net. Says nothing about "spending only a few weeks."
Requirements for a community to be considered "housing for older persons":

A: The housing is specifically designed and operated to assist elderly persons and is intended for, and solely occupied by, persons 62 years of age or older

B: The housing is intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older and meet the following requirements:

At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older.
The facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate its intent to in fact be a provider of housing for older persons
The facility or community complies with rules established by HUD for verification of occupancy

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i was only 51 when i purchased my tv home. i believe my sales rep had to file special papers but i never saw them nor has my living here ever come up as an issue.
the percent over 55 requirement is the only state reg i was ever aware of.
i'm over 55 now.

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Someone published the actual law earlier on TOTV. If anyone is interested, do a search and you should find it.

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This should put to rest any "misconceptions":

The Housing for Older Persons Act of
1995 (Pub. L. 104–76, 109 Stat. 787,
approved December 28, 1995) (HOPA)
revised the definition of the original
exemption contained in the Act for
housing designed and operated for
occupancy by persons who are 55 years
of age of older. Section 2 of HOPA
redefined this portion of the exemption
to describe housing:
(C) Intended and operated for occupancy
by persons 55 years of age or older, and—
(i) At least 80 percent of the occupied units
are occupied by at least one person who is
55 years of age or older;
(ii) The housing facility or community
publishes and adheres to policies and
procedures that demonstrate the intent
required under this subparagraph; and
(iii) The housing facility or community
complies with rules issued by the Secretary
[of HUD] for verification of occupancy,
which shall—
(I) Provide for verification by reliable
surveys and affidavits; and
(II) Include examples of the types of
policies and procedures relevant to a
determination of compliance with the
requirement of clause (ii). Such surveys and
affidavits shall be admissible in
administrative and judicial proceedings for
the purposes of such verification.

The new requirements under HOPA
are equivalent to the original provisions
of the Fair Housing Act. Like the
original section 807(b)(C) of the Act,
HOPA requires that a facility or
community seeking to claim the 55 and
older exemption show three factors: (1)
That the housing be intended and
operated for persons 55 years of age or
older; (2) that at least 80 percent of the
occupied units be occupied by at least
one person who is 55 years of age or
older; and (3) the housing facility or
community publish and adhere to
policies and procedures that
demonstrate its intent to qualify for the
exemption. The housing facility or
community must also comply with rules
issued by HUD for the verification of
occupancy.

....yet someone was forced to leave The Villages because they were not 55???

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check the Fl state link:

http://fchr.state.fl.us/fchr/resourc...g/requirements

It clearly states "At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at leat one person 55 years of age or older"

Welcome baby boomers

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Let's remember that a community of this size NEEDS to use that 20% max exception for the benefit of the other residents.

Take my case for example:

I am becoming an RN shortly and I wish to work at TVRH within the next few years. I am currently 'only' 50. With the growth of TVRH and other community based health facilities there is a great need for RN's and other professional healh care members. If no exceptions were made for under 55 then the hospital would have less clout in trying to recruit new workers. I have a small number of friends and relatives in TV and my wife and i will be down there in about 3 years. I can only hope that the exceptions are still used.

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Where in this post did we talk about TAX advantages?

Just wondering.

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Good day , I am 65+ AND MY WIFE IS 52, We are looking to move to the TV, My wife has her own business so we can live any were we would like to. She will probably be the one buying the house so i would hope that that i could move there before she turn 55. And i believe that this will be no problem.

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we bought our home in Springdale in 2003. I was 48 and my husband was 52. No one had a problem with us being younger than 55.

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I think the "tax savings" is that the impact fee is lower in a 55+, so not something the buyer will ever see except the initial new home price would have been lower than if a regular all age subdivision

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I am not sure I agree. The impact fee applies to anyone building in the county. You support the schools in the county you buy in no matter your age. They are not going to give the 55 and above a break on impact fees.

The 55 and above advertisement to me was that I was buying into a 55 and above community - no kids and no young people. I realize that we will have young visitors. It is upsetting to read the weekly Sumter/Lake Police Blotter in the Daily Sun and find 30 - 40 year old Village residents (admittedly sons and daughters of Villages) getting picked up for drugs, burglaries and other things.

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:agree: I just don't understand why any parent (no matter where they live) allows their loser children to live with them. Guess they haven't heard of "tough love". The parents deserve a better life than to have to put up with such crap.

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It is my understanding that resales have no age restriction, I don't know that for a fact. i do know there are at least 2 family areas of the villages and i think the new one going in North of CVS is a family area.
my personal opinion is that in order to market commerical property they have to show an available workforce.

I think no one can live here under 19.

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My understanding is that these family areas have no privileges (golf, etc). They are developer areas for workers.

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My wife and I purchased our home in TV when I was 49 and she was 48. WE did not buy it from a Village Realtor thus avoiding that 55+ age contract addendum that exists. There are people who act mature and responsible regardless of their age. There are also "adults" who can be immature and irrational after 55 years of age. What I find as rather amusing is the Chula Vista Pool. In order to swim there people must be at least 30 years of age. Well, I have 3 adult children ages 24, 26 & 28 suprisingly they know how to act in an adult pool but can't swim there. It's not like there going to get someone's blue-grey Beehive hair doo wet!! So here's a question: what about a Village Pool where you can't be over 60 years of age to swim there !! Pretty ridiculous huh? My kids can vote, drink alcohol, go to war, buy a home...... but they can't swim in the Chula Vista Pool. Noodle anybody?!!

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This is not just a Chula Vista pool rule. All of the adult pools have a 30 and over restriction. Take or send your adult children to the community pools until they turn 30. Rules are rules.

This is supposed to be an adult (over 55) community. Just because you managed to go ourside of the rules to get in does not mean that you do not have to obey the rules once you are in.

Sometimes I get a little tired of people complaining about the rules. You should have done a more thorough search before buying here - or maybe the realtor said not to worry - no one cares. Well we do!!

In today's Daily Sun there were five entries in the police log and four were villagers "adult" children with drugs and burglary arrests. We do not need that here.

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In a Utopian world, you would be right. How lucky you must be, to make it through your life this far, with no immediate family with addiction, or mental, or whatever the problems may be. How great it would be, if everyone in this world was as wonderful and lucky as you. Unfortunately, or fortunately, however you look at it, we don't get to pick who our families are, and don't get to pick what faults and attributes they have, either.

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caveman can stick up for himself but i don't think he was saying that it's great to have no issues. I think the point is that it's ok for a community to be just 55+ without the inherent problems that come when young adults are placed among the population.

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Ya know folks...I think you're all being rather ridiculous on this "younger residents" thing. Age is relative and who cares how old someone is who wants to live here. I'm 61 but I ENJOY seeing younger people around. I always go to a "family pool" for the reason that there are younger people there. Why be "snobbish" on this issue? MOST younger people wouldn't WANT to live with a bunch of "old farts"...but for those who do, I say :welcome: and thanks for helping to diversify and beautify The Villages. Since when are "younger people" threats? Also, in case you don't realize it, there are a lot of "older" people in here committing crimes on a daily basis. $300.00 was taken out of my husband's wallet from his golf bag. There were NO younger people in the vicinity.

Hooray for youth and hooray for the new "younger" residents. I welcome you and I applaud you!!

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Seems tolerance and compassion are taking a back seat in the comments. If nobody that is a resident of TV that is 55+ has ever received a DUI, then maybe the statement has validity. I understand wanting to keep things safe, just seemed a bit harsh and callous.

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Wow Cave someone needs to change their Depends. What you misconstrue ( def: to understand or interpret something incorrectly) is that I was not complaining. I am blogging my thoughts and ideas. I bet you never colored outside the lines in your coloring book did you? Did i say I didnt want to obey the rules? You're a little touchy about what I said in regards to vote to restrict folks over 60 from some pools. It's called BANTER CaveDude ( lighthearted teasing or amusing remarks that are exchanged between people.

First: And as such I did my "homework" or thorough search thats why I was able to BUY in The Villages at such an early age instead of waiting until I was your AGE. Don't be so hostile.

Second: You made the statement that I went outside of the rules to purchase my home. Sir, thats an incorrect statement. One only need to research Florida state law. I can provide you with the hyperlink, document, or come by and read it to you. You make the call. And you said "Sometimes I get a little tired of people complaining about the rules". CaveDweller, if someones complaining, regardless of the level or whatever is implied makes you tired then let me be the first to buy you some B complex vitamins and a case of beer. Relax, you're letting the little things beat you down. you should be living stress free and doing the nasty at least 3 times a week. but then again thats personal. Please accept my apologies.

Lastly, you made the statement, " In today's Daily Sun there were five entries in the police log and four were villagers "adult" children with drugs and burglary arrests. We do not need that here".

My response: Are you saying that "Villagers" 55+ and older do not do drugs. That can include, marijuana, cocaine, methamphetamine, other.

You mention "Villagers Adult children" and their arrests. Are you saying that there are no residing, home owning "Villagers" with criminal histories? This can include any sort of felony, misdemeanor, other.

The Villages is not a fortress and until the walls are built with locks and all - then people will come and go. Crime is everywhere and just because its "The Villages" we are not immune. I wish you the best Cavedweller. Just chill ok. Life is short and ..... well you know.

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This is not just a Chula Vista pool rule. All of the adult pools have a 30 and over restriction. Take or send your adult children to the community pools until they turn 30. Rules are rules.

This is supposed to be an adult (over 55) community. Just because you managed to go ourside of the rules to get in does not mean that you do not have to obey the rules once you are in.

Sometimes I get a little tired of people complaining about the rules. You should have done a more thorough search before buying here - or maybe the realtor said not to worry - no one cares. Well we do!!

In today's Daily Sun there were five entries in the police log and four were villagers "adult" children with drugs and burglary arrests. We do not need that here.

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In the words of Rodney King "Frankly my dear, I just don't give a dahm!". Okay so it wasn't Rodney King. But now that I've got your attention that's how I feel. Responsible individuals are an asset to any community regardless of age. Sometimes we can't all live in fantasy land and they'll most likely weed themselves out. But we can live in TV. You should attend a city/county/tourism meeting with me. Many seasoned individuals have a lot to be desired. Then again they probably say the same thing about me. I survived 911, tsunamis, and hurricanes. I believe I can handle a younger neighbor. If nuthin else have em help me put the Christmas tree up. Ah such is life.

Steve

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If I want to live with noise day and night I will move to Manhattan.
If I want to live in fear I will move to the Bronx or Brooklyn.
If I want to live in peace I will move to The Villages.
An adult community is that ADULT COMMUNITY, we have done our share of work, taxes and problems, now we want peace. Those who unfortunately have to carry adult children in their golden year deserve the blessing of everyone, however do not try to impose your family on the rest of us.

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First of all I would like to apologize for my inconsiderate post to your comment.

I should have stopped with all the adult pools have a 30 year age restriction.

Now I have a legitimate question. Do your three adult children that I assume from this post live with you have full Villages amenities - ie golf, tennis, etc?

And for one of the posts - I did not live in a utopian world. I had my troubles and tribulations.

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Cave Guy, it's all good. I say that now that my wife has beaten the day lights out of me for being a buttocks. My three children are spread out on the eastern seaboard. Son is in Old Bridge, NJ and woorks in NYC, daughter 1 lives and works in Jacksonville, NC and is married to a marine, daughter 2 lives in Baltimore. When they come to our home in TV's they have guest passes and enjoy the amenities as we do. Daughter 3 came for a visit last year and prior to arriving she said to my wife and I " why did you buy a home here in TV. The people are retired, old, and grumpy. Why are you in such a hurry to get old"? WOW was my answer. After only one day she said to us, " this place is awesome, it has everything. People are excercising, golfing, swimming, going to musical events in the various squares. You have restaurants, hospitals.........". My wife and I love it here. We want to expose our children to a "lifestyle" that is conducive to good health of body, mind, and spirit.
WE educate them. We have taught them what they need to do in this life, if they want to retire before they are 55 or 60 years of age. If they work hard, save, buy real estate or land ( God's not making any more ), mutual funds, etc. And if they follow what we say, then they will have a home in TV or a place like it some where.

None of my children have ever been arrested or have police records. They choose not to smoke pot or do other substances not because I say " don't do it", rather they choose not to do those substances because they have goals, are focused, and their parents led by example. but I'm not gonna tell them what was happening in the 70's !!! No need to go there. anyway, thats the deal.
Rules are rules. Rules can suck. And if they suck, then it's a persons right to try and change the rules. Right? Cave dude, i am the most chilled out person you will ever come across. But I do like the Banter. And I like that you have an opinion. thats what makes us who we are.

Then there's the person who said if I liked noise move to NYC, and if I liked fear move to the Bronx or Brooklyn. Thats sad. i lived in Queens, the Bronx, and Brooklyn and the noise never bothered me, I was never in fear for my life, and the people were just people like you and I. they were just trying to make it in this big wide world. NYC is rather small when youve lived there for a while. people are familiar, there's lots to do, and its diverse. Maybe the person who previously wrote that statement is just afraid of their shadow wherever they are. Anyway, thats their opinion and .....

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Beautiful response, FIRE... :)

GROUP HUG!

Rebekah

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WOW..I did not mean to cause such a stir, it was just a question..Sorry guys.. :dontknow:

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I TOTALLY AGREE WHY ARE PEOPLE ALWAYS TRING TO CHANGE THE RULES READ THEM FIRST AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM GO ELSE WHERE

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STEVE: Is that really your picture? If so, did anyone ever tell you that you look like that "Die Hard" guy? (Sr. Moment here...can't remember his name!!!!)

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Daggone it Donna. See what ya started. And JKP how dare you refer to me as looking like Pee Wee Herman.
;D

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I guess with the recent news about STD's in TV maybe the title of:

"Die hard in TV" might be a good title for your next flick? :joke: