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Wing-nut2 02-09-2014 08:42 AM

Why not a Campers Village?
 
After reading about the RV in the drive way I thought this might solve the problem.

I'm going to put my flame suite on because I know I'm going to get a lot of heat about this, but here it goes. :MOJE_whot:

Why shouldn't TV build an RV Village? They could sell the lots for 50-75K depending on locations/size etc. People with an RV could drive down and stay in their RV on their lot whenever they wanted. There are lots of things to be thought out. Build a wall around it so those that don't like the looks of an RV don't have to see it.

They could park 3 or 4 RVs in the space of one house Small garage for the golf cart.

Ok, here we go. :MOJE_whot:

TrudyM 02-09-2014 08:47 AM

Profit margin isn't there for developer.

DonH57 02-09-2014 08:50 AM

I'm certain some may say that would white trash up TV in no time. LOL. I believe there is an RV resort or two on 441 isn't there?

Wing-nut2 02-09-2014 09:00 AM

So, someone who has a million dollar plus Prevost Motor Coach is white trash?

That's an interesting point of view.

DonH57 02-09-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wing-nut2 (Post 826581)
So, someone who has a million dollar plus Prevost Motor Coach is white trash?

That's an interesting point of view.

No, No, No. That's not my opinion. Hell, I sometimes wished I owned one or had one at my disposal. I'm saying certainly there will be people will say it on here. I just wanted to clarify that.

kstew43 02-09-2014 09:07 AM

I think that would be a great idea, kinda like a RV resort.

borjo 02-09-2014 09:29 AM

I've often thought it would be a perfect addition to round-out the types of homes here. Good idea!
I'll put it on the annual survey!

perrjojo 02-09-2014 09:49 AM

I think RVs are usually parked in driveways when the owners are packing up before a trip or unpacking afterwards. I doubt many are camping out in the driveway.

Mudder 02-09-2014 10:39 AM

Recreation Plantation which is on 466 is an RV park so Villages doesn't need to duplicate.

rdhdleo 02-09-2014 10:49 AM

I think the idea is wonderful!!! The Villages has enough "out of the way" areas that would be suited for such an addition. It doesn't have to be big or fancy but a "welcoming" option for visitors to families here. Also an option for people her who have really nice RV's to keep it there as extra room for families when they cmd to is it is they don't have enough room in their house and maybe the family can't afford our hotels. Even visiting RV's I have seen here are really high class. Kudos to the original poster for having an open mind! Of course I doubt it will ever happen.

l2ridehd 02-09-2014 10:54 AM

Would the RV park have enough owners that are willing to pay the monthly amenity fee, trash fee and water? Plus taxes and bond on the property. Not sure, but if so it would seem to be a good idea.

One concern we would all have is the building out of infrastructure. Not just an RV park but as they buy any land and build more houses. It appears, maybe not true, but the golf course, rec center, pools, to house ratio seems to be more dense than it has been in the past. If true, than it will just put more pressure on the exiting facilities. Anyone with more knowledge in this area have better insight then I do?

billethkid 02-09-2014 10:55 AM

the return on investment for ANYBODY would not be there.

Other issues...same amenity fees.....absolutely.

Who sets the standards for what type RV is allowed....doe this open a whole can of discrimination worms or what?

Tax these lots the same as other dwellings in TV? why not?

Do they pay the same no matter whether they are present or not?

And where oh where would they put the golf cart?

I learned a long time ago there are no bad ideas. Just ideas that won't work for whatever reason.

This one just does not.

THere is something like what is suggested at the corner of 466 and Rolling Acres Road......

TVMayor 02-09-2014 11:01 AM

When the IRS takes over the TV and they can not sell the golf courses because the buyer would have to charge for residents to play free golf the IRS will sell the golf courses to be used as campgrounds. Of course camp sites next to water holes would be premium sites.

TV is in the process of expanding into Fruitland Park. This being a new project a campground would blend into the existing amenities.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps990c4c98.jpg

rdhdleo 02-09-2014 11:02 AM

If someone wanted to make it work I truly believe it could anything is possible. We're not talking a huge area as that I do not think would be cost effective Maybe it would be best for people with RV's and or have family that visit in them weigh in on this rather than someone who may or may not benefit from it. One doesn't know if something would work until they try or at least ask. Just my opinion of course it would make us even a more welcoming community. Trust me though I know it won't happen but I think the original posts was very thoughtful and considerate.

rdhdleo 02-09-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 826639)
When the IRS takes over the TV and they can not sell the golf courses because the buyer would have to charge for residents to play free golf the IRS will sell the golf courses to be used as campgrounds. Of course camp sites next to water holes would be premium sites.

TV is in the process of expanding into Fruitland Park. This being a new project a campground would blend into the existing amenities.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps990c4c98.jpg

Fruitland Park happens to have some very nice areas if you take time to drive through it and I think TV's would greatly improve upon what is displayed in that picture.

Denny6083 02-09-2014 11:25 AM

How about a section or village of just homes with "rv ports" where the enclosed rv garage is attached to the home.

Bogie Shooter 02-09-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rdhdleo (Post 826636)
I think the idea is wonderful!!! The Villages has enough "out of the way" areas that would be suited for such an addition. It doesn't have to be big or fancy but a "welcoming" option for visitors to families here. Also an option for people her who have really nice RV's to keep it there as extra room for families when they cmd to is it is they don't have enough room in their house and maybe the family can't afford our hotels. Even visiting RV's I have seen here are really high class. Kudos to the original poster for having an open mind! Of course I doubt it will ever happen.

How is this determined?

Bogie Shooter 02-09-2014 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 826638)
the return on investment for ANYBODY would not be there.

Other issues...same amenity fees.....absolutely.

Who sets the standards for what type RV is allowed....doe this open a whole can of discrimination worms or what?

Tax these lots the same as other dwellings in TV? why not?

Do they pay the same no matter whether they are present or not?

And where oh where would they put the golf cart?

I learned a long time ago there are no bad ideas. Just ideas that won't work for whatever reason.

This one just does not.

THere is something like what is suggested at the corner of 466 and Rolling Acres Road......

I agree..............a bad idea that won't work.

mulligan 02-09-2014 12:42 PM

TV started out as a trailer park. IMHO, it has taken several large steps upward from that. Who's willing to have an RV park next to his/her village. NOT ME !! If I was willing to settle for a a campground, I could have saved a small fortune on my home.

njbchbum 02-09-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rdhdleo (Post 826641)
If someone wanted to make it work I truly believe it could anything is possible. We're not talking a huge area as that I do not think would be cost effective Maybe it would be best for people with RV's and or have family that visit in them weigh in on this rather than someone who may or may not benefit from it. One doesn't know if something would work until they try or at least ask. Just my opinion of course it would make us even a more welcoming community. Trust me though I know it won't happen but I think the original posts was very thoughtful and considerate.

The highlighted text is a kindly thought...but...although the villages is composed of many neighborhoods - I believe that we are one community...and, thus, we each/all benefit or do not benefit from what is developed here - RV village or anything else...so I think each/all of our opinions hold value to this discussion.

gomoho 02-09-2014 01:25 PM

Hah - apparently some of you folks have never seen an RV community with casitas and garages that run $250K plus. Most of these folks have $600k plus motor homes parked at these spots.

As far as discrimination our experience was rv parks can determine what type of RV they will allow and can also deny entry based on the age of the RV. So it can be worked out, but doubt the developer has any inclination to do this.

On a lighter note - when we were living full time in our motor home a dear friend use
to refer to us as PWTTWM. Poor white trailer trash with money! How we got a kick out of that.

rdhdleo 02-09-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 826726)
Hah - apparently some of you folks have never seen an RV community with casitas and garages that run $250K plus. Most of these folks have $600k plus motor homes parked at these spots.

As far as discrimination our experience was rv parks can determine what type of RV they will allow and can also deny entry based on the age of the RV. So it can be worked out, but doubt the developer has any inclination to do this.

On a lighter note - when we were living full time in our motor home a dear friend use
to refer to us as PWTTWM. Poor white trailer trash with money! How we got a kick out of that.

Thanks for you input, all I have ever asked is that people be more open minded. So glad I live around a lot of people who are. But that's what the world is all about, different strokes for different folks it's what makes the world go round, I will however always forge forward with an open mind and heart.

NIPAS K-9 02-09-2014 02:06 PM

Lets see how you feel when you got one in your backyard. Wonder what it would do for your resale? / property value. Bet you rethink how ......... Wonderful that would be..........

rdhdleo 02-09-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NIPAS K-9 (Post 826748)
Lets see how you feel when you got one in your backyard. Wonder what it would do for your resale? / property value. Bet you rethink how ......... Wonderful that would be..........

The original idea was a separate village NO ONES backyard. And if there were room I wouldn't mind at all. As I am sure TV's would do it as tastefully as they have done anything else.

yabbadu 02-09-2014 04:10 PM

For those who think it hould be...Start you own..just not here!

rubicon 02-09-2014 04:31 PM

Really some folks believe an RV villages fits here. I am utterly amazed at some of the suggestions made on this boar...dumbfounded actuallyd

gerryann 02-09-2014 04:38 PM

There is a perfectly fine...very large RV park as close to the villages as you can get...Its at 466 and Rolling Acres. I believe it has over 1,000 sites. When folks have friends who visit and want to stay in their RV....this is a perfect place.

If they simply want to store the RV...it can be stored at the storage facility on 466 just past Wal-Mart. .....cant get much closer than these two places.

gomoho 02-09-2014 05:24 PM

If I had the energy I would look up each person that said "not in my backyard" to see if they posted on the site about racism and how they can't believe anyone is the small minded. Just sayin.

rdhdleo 02-09-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 826827)
If I had the energy I would look up each person that said "not in my backyard" to see if they posted on the site about racism and how they can't believe anyone is the small minded. Just sayin.

:clap2:

Happydaz 02-09-2014 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 826827)
If I had the energy I would look up each person that said "not in my backyard" to see if they posted on the site about racism and how they can't believe anyone is the small minded. Just sayin.

I agree with you. I think we should also have space allotted for low income housing. Right now there are many areas close to the Villages that have affordable units, but I think we should be open minded and consider having better income variation within the the Villages itself.

gomoho 02-09-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 826845)
I agree with you. I think we should also have space allotted for low income housing. Right now there are many areas close to the Villages that have affordable units, but I think we should be open minded and consider having better income variation within the the Villages itself.

Amazing that folks still equate motor homes with low income housing. Folks we are not talking about trailers here, but very nice and very often expensive homes on wheels. There are communities across the country that cater to wheel estate because folks parking on these lots pay high fees for the privledge.

gerryann 02-09-2014 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 826845)
I agree with you. I think we should also have space allotted for low income housing. Right now there are many areas close to the Villages that have affordable units, but I think we should be open minded and consider having better income variation within the the Villages itself.

I believe we already have it. You can purchase a very nice manufactured home for $70-80,000 or a home for $$$$$$......whatever you want.

BogeyBoy 02-09-2014 07:38 PM

We have looked into purchasing in nicer RV resorts around the US. Here are three examples from our most recent travels:

Alabama - 82,000-165,000 for the lot, then you get to pay more to build a small building, probably 50,000+ and room for a laundry, small living room, and bath.

Another in Alabama - 199,000 - 419,000 for the lot including a small building similar to above, you complete the interior.

Texas - Prices around 100,000 with no building. We saw homes on the lots that would be on the same level as any Premier home here in TV.

These places only allow class "A" motorhomes.

If TV offered such an arrangement I would be in line to get one.

BTW - I know of one home here in TV that has a very large garage for a motorhome - it is in a premier neighborhood.

Bonanza 02-09-2014 08:56 PM

We moved here from Las Vegas. If anyone has ever gone astray -- west of the Strip and into some of the neighborhoods, you will see many homes (from affordable to in the millions) that have a wide, extended driveway and sometimes oversized garage for a motor home. This isn't a onesy-twosy kind of thing; it's commonplace. In addition, 95% of all homes are built with concrete walls, giving the residents instant privacy.

These motor homes/RV driveways are usually directly next to the house and yes, you see the motor home over the walls. Because they are so common, it has not had any negative effect on the price of homes.

Worry not, fellow Villagers; this will never happen here!

SantaClaus 03-22-2014 09:31 AM

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I've seen RV-port developments that look much more high-end than a lot of TV. Seems there are some very adamant, if not informed, ideas on the matter. I'd be interested, personally.
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graciegirl 03-22-2014 09:35 AM

This is why I am glad we can't vote on things.


This place is so wonderful on it's own, and some mighty fine thinkers who have done a great job already just keep making things nicer.


but if asked I would say No.

rubicon 03-22-2014 09:45 AM

An RV Village, and also a suggestion for low income housing, incredible absolutely incredible. I think some folks have too much time on their hands

I am afraid those making such suggestions are doing so because the concept and reason for The Villages is lost on them.

Finally I no longer get upset when someone equates not in my back yard with racism because such claims are made strictly because they do not know how to have a serious conversation .

This thread is sheer bupkus

buggyone 03-22-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SantaClaus (Post 849402)
I've seen RV-port developments that look much more high-end than a lot of TV. Seems there are some very adamant, if not informed, ideas on the matter. I'd be interested, personally.
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Go into the Village of Harmswood and you will see a garage that houses a RV. It is a very impressive garage to say the least.

BogeyBoy 03-22-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 849414)
Go into the Village of Harmswood and you will see a garage that houses a RV. It is a very impressive garage to say the least.

That is the same one I was thinking of when I mentioned it in a previous post.

I built a separate garage just for my motorhome when I had a large enough property to accommodate such a building. I had to go though the zoning and permit process, no problem - and not one neighbor every complained. This was in a very nice neighborhood of some of the most expensive homes around.

Guess what I am getting at - if done right and priced right it is only going to attract people who care about the appearance of their property and their neighborhood.

jblum315 03-22-2014 10:38 AM

I think this is what Harold Schwartz started out with way back when. Although I don't think they were called RVs then, I think they were just called trailer homes.
Remember Lucille Ball in "The Long Long Trailer"? Still funny.


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