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Hopeful2 02-19-2014 03:56 AM

Alligator
 
An alligator has taken up sun bathing on my back lawn ... (I back up to a pond in Collier). I realize that it was probably a Florida resident long before I arrived... but it has me quite concerned, especially because I have a small dog. (Our dog is always on a leash.)
Does The Villages have any provisions for moving/trapping/relocating alligators?

Thanks!

shcisamax 02-19-2014 07:12 AM

Yes they do. If the gator is a certain length, I think they come and remove them. How big is this sunbather? I imagine you can call Community Watch and get directions on how to handle this.

buggyone 02-19-2014 07:14 AM

If the alligator is over 4 feet long, they will send in an alligator trapper who will snag it with a huge treble hook, drag it ashore, and kill it. Very cruel.

kittygilchrist 02-19-2014 07:14 AM

Statewide Nuisance Alligator Program
http://myfwc.com/media/1531908/allig...es_booklet.pdf
I'd get it removed. If it is harvested, the harvester will slaughter it and sell the meat. I just bought some locally for a Cajun zydeco potluck.
There is an alligator industry, thankfully. Harvesting was illegal for many years due to low population. They are BACK!!!
Harvesting is regulated carefully and statistically to regulate the population.

nkrifats 02-19-2014 07:24 AM

How far up in the yard is the Alligator? Is it really bothering anyone? Keep the dog away until the Alligator moves on.

Bosoxfan 02-19-2014 07:27 AM

:BigApplause::agree:
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Originally Posted by nkrifats (Post 831763)
How far up in the yard is the Alligator? Is it really bothering anyone? Keep the dog away until the Alligator moves on.


cquick 02-19-2014 08:21 AM

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my friends were golfing near Mt. Dora a couple weeks ago, and this is the gator they saw on a pond on the course!

skip0358 02-19-2014 08:38 AM

If you buy on a pond you have to expect, ducks, birds, geese, fish, people fishing if it's a fishing pond, model boaters and oh yea GATORS. I'd say keep the dog inside or on it's leash, why have a gator killed? JMO

CFrance 02-19-2014 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nkrifats (Post 831763)
How far up in the yard is the Alligator? Is it really bothering anyone? Keep the dog away until the Alligator moves on.

That gets my vote.

raynan 02-19-2014 09:27 AM

This is nature and you chose to live on a pond. Enjoy your view and walk the dog out front.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-19-2014 10:36 AM

Alligators have a brain about the size of a walnut. They are far from being sentient beings. I'm always confused when people are concerned about killing these nuisance creature but have no problem with people fishing, or killing insects or rodents. If you had a rat in your house would you have it humanely trapped and relocated. Alligators are less aware than rats.

Call the removal service and have them get it out of there. Unless of course you are also against swatting love bugs.

shcisamax 02-19-2014 10:59 AM

I don't know if gators are sentient or if the size of their brain is that of a walnut but rats are pretty smart:


Scientists have performed studies with sounds and food and discovered they understand much more than we used to think.

Rats understand causal relationships, something scientists thought only humans and some higher primates could understand. This puts rats way up there on the list of the smartest animals!

gerryann 02-19-2014 11:15 AM

What difference does it make what size the brain is......it doesn't need to be killed. Trees don't have brains either, but you can't kill those either.

If you are on a pond....expect to have a LOT of animals that you may not want around. Your dog needs to always be on a leash around the pond. There can be a gator under the water just waiting for the dog to come near......and they run very fast.

shcisamax 02-19-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 831898)
If you are on a pond....expect to have a LOT of animals that you may not want around. Your dog needs to always be on a leash around the pond. There can be a gator under the water just waiting for the dog to come near......and they run very fast.

This is so true.
When we bought, we had a little dog that couldn't run fast and a big one that would most likely run over to a gator to say, "Hey, wanna play?" That is exactly why we didn't want "the water" view.

gerryann 02-19-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 831878)
Alligators have a brain about the size of a walnut. They are far from being sentient beings. I'm always confused when people are concerned about killing these nuisance creature but have no problem with people fishing, or killing insects or rodents. If you had a rat in your house would you have it humanely trapped and relocated. Alligators are less aware than rats.

Call the removal service and have them get it out of there. Unless of course you are also against swatting love bugs.

Boogie.....I know you say the rat thing in jest......but yes, I have trapped mice in a live trap to locate back out side. I have done this anytime a field mouse found its way into my home. One time I started thinking that the same mouse kept finding his way back in....so I put some nail polish on his tail before releasing it to see if it was the same guy......it wasn't :o

gomoho 02-19-2014 11:44 AM

Yep, I use to release field mice as well so I guess that tells you where I stand on the murder of a gator sunning himself.

CFrance 02-19-2014 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 831906)
Boogie.....I know you say the rat thing in jest......but yes, I have trapped mice in a live trap to locate back out side. I have done this anytime a field mouse found its way into my home. One time I started thinking that the same mouse kept finding his way back in....so I put some nail polish on his tail before releasing it to see if it was the same guy......it wasn't :o

That's funny!!!!!!!:a20:

rubicon 02-19-2014 12:33 PM

I knew a woman who stored bird feed, etc in her garage and discovered a cut little mouse that was very playful. so she let it be and be it did over and over and over until she was over run with the plural of mouse and had to call in an expert to deal with her playful problem mouse and his/her offspring that sprung out of control.

Alligators are not welcome guests on my lawn. so the very second I saw such a critter I's be on the phone telling Turtle Man to do his magic

gerryann 02-19-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 831942)

Alligators are not welcome guests on my lawn. so the very second I saw such a critter I's be on the phone telling Turtle Man to do his magic

I hope you don't live on a pond :mad:

RErmer 02-19-2014 01:02 PM

Absolutely agree with those who say let the alligator live!

Hopeful2 02-19-2014 02:28 PM

Thank you for all the suggestions. I've contacted Community Watch.

jhrc4 02-19-2014 03:10 PM

My vote is to leave the Alligator alone he/she will hit the road soon enough, win/win, enjoy nature while it's there. It is a tale to tell leave it alone.

rubicon 02-19-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 831962)
I hope you don't live on a pond :mad:

Hi gerryann: I am up about two houses from a pond. My neighbors who live around the pond get visit by many undesirable critters. One of my neighbors who loves animals had an alligator in her back yard that she let be until the alligator attempted to break through her lanai screen to get at her little dog after the second attempt she called the Turtle Man

Warren Kiefer 02-19-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hopeful2 (Post 832003)
Thank you for all the suggestions. I've contacted Community Watch.

Sadly but you probably signed the alligators death warrant... unless it is very small.

shcisamax 02-19-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jhrc4 (Post 832018)
My vote is to leave the Alligator alone he/she will hit the road soon enough, win/win, enjoy nature while it's there. It is a tale to tell leave it alone.

I'm right there with you.

CFrance 02-19-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 832028)
Hi gerryann: I am up about two houses from a pond. My neighbors who live around the pond get visit by many undesirable critters. One of my neighbors who loves animals had an alligator in her back yard that she let be until the alligator attempted to break through her lanai screen to get at her little dog after the second attempt she called the Turtle Man

I applaud your neighbor for trying. At least she gave it a shot at letting nature take its course.

rubicon 02-19-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 832037)
I applaud your neighbor for trying. At least she gave it a shot at letting nature take its course.

Hi CFrances: If nature had taken its course the alligator would have devoured that dog and every dog around that pond. My neighbor loves animals feeds the ducks ,etc Me I love people so we feed them. Fortunately Mrs. Rubicon is an excellent cook and very comfortable in the kitchen. She looks so sexy in her apron :D


Personal Best Regards

CFrance 02-19-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 832045)
Hi CFrances: If nature had taken its course the alligator would have devoured that dog and every dog around that pond. My neighbor loves animals feeds the ducks ,etc Me I love people so we feed them. Fortunately Mrs. Rubicon is an excellent cook and very comfortable in the kitchen. She looks so sexy in her apron :D


Personal Best Regards

Ohhhhkayyyyy...

Didiwinbob 02-19-2014 04:39 PM

Ignore it- I would leave it be.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-19-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 832028)
Hi gerryann: I am up about two houses from a pond. My neighbors who live around the pond get visit by many undesirable critters. One of my neighbors who loves animals had an alligator in her back yard that she let be until the alligator attempted to break through her lanai screen to get at her little dog after the second attempt she called the Turtle Man

Really? She waited for a second attempt? That's kind of like having a hornet's nest under your eaves and waiting until you get bitten to spray it.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-19-2014 04:53 PM

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What difference does it make what size the brain is......it doesn't need to be killed. Trees don't have brains either, but you can't kill those either.
Really? We can't kill trees? Take a ride around the Villages and you'll see an awful lot of houses and other things that are made from dead trees.

In fact we have a dead tree material working shop.

We also can buy dead animal products that we use for food, clothing and other things. So it appears to me that not only can we kill trees, but it's also acceptable kill animals for certain reasons.

The problem is that we have begun to equate animal lives with human lives. Now we're going to equate trees with animals?

gerryann 02-19-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 832074)
Really? We can't kill trees? Take a ride around the Villages and you'll see an awful lot of houses and other things that are made from dead trees.

In fact we have a dead tree material working shop.

We also can buy dead animal products that we use for food, clothing and other things. So it appears to me that not only can we kill trees, but it's also acceptable kill animals for certain reasons.

The problem is that we have begun to equate animal lives with human lives. Now we're going to equate trees with animals?

Whatever.......:rolleyes:

Matzy 02-19-2014 05:58 PM

Keep the dog away off sight the gator. Gators usually do not stay a long time at the same place for sunbathing. Tell your neighbor that you have a "guest" because most likely the gator moves on to new places. If it is a large gator -more than 4 feet long- you should report it.


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