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senior citizen 03-30-2014 06:53 AM

Is a Miracle Still Possible for Missing Jet?
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/chinese-families-demand-return-those-missing-jet-n67096


Chinese families demand "return" of those on missing jet.
How many of us think it is remotely "possible" that the plane did land??? Perhaps on some island?


It appears those in charge don't really know for sure one way or another with so many twists and turns in the story. We even heard one Malaysian official comment yesterday that they would bring the loved ones back?????? Obviously, they can't bring them back from under the sea.


In the beginning, we were all hoping the plane had been hijacked, along with the passengers. Does anyone really know?


What islands would have landing strips big enough for such a plane?


Is a miracle still possible for this missing jet?

billethkid 03-30-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 853577)
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/chinese-families-demand-return-those-missing-jet-n67096


Chinese families demand "return" of those on missing jet.
How many of us think it is remotely "possible" that the plane did land??? Perhaps on some island?


It appears those in charge don't really know for sure one way or another with so many twists and turns in the story. We even heard one Malaysian official comment yesterday that they would bring the loved ones back?????? Obviously, they can't bring them back from under the sea.


In the beginning, we were all hoping the plane had been hijacked, along with the passengers. Does anyone really know?


What islands would have landing strips big enough for such a plane?


Is a miracle still possible for this missing jet?

Until such time as there is some kind or any kind of evidence of the planes demise, there remains many possibilities.

One analysis that was in some of the readings of the past few days is the speculation that with the complete lack of any floating debris, of which there is all kinds inside the cabin, one possibility is the plane hit the water in a fashion tearing off wings and tail sections but leaving the cabin relatively intact. However, there is still a complete absence of debris of any kind.

Other scenarios are nerve wrenching as well, if the plane is what whoever was after, then what to do with 239 people on board? Ransom for the plane? Ransom for the people? Ransom for total package? Other?

If truly a crash was involved there has to be evidence of some kind that gets discovered at some point in time. Any other scenario and the time element is a function of the intents of the perpetrators.

SantaClaus 03-30-2014 10:28 AM

My first thought once we heard the flight crossed Malasia and went out over the Indian Ocean was, "oh my could it be heading to Ethiopia (piracy capital of the world)?" None of the experts have ever run it up the flagpole afaik, so I assume it's not possible, but the experts also haven't found any debris, so who knows. I still can't imagine a motive to fly into the middle of an ocean and ditch.

jblum315 03-30-2014 11:00 AM

Nope, don't think so.

Indydealmaker 03-30-2014 11:03 AM

There is no downside to hope and prayers.

graciegirl 03-30-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 853723)
There is no downside to hope and prayers.



I think I will take up embroidery and stitch that on something.


No...acrylic paint is faster.


Excellent post.

2BNTV 03-30-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 853723)
There is no downside to hope and prayers.

Never heard this one before. Thanks for posting. :smiley:

2BNTV 03-30-2014 11:42 AM

With the finding of finding remains of the plane, I think it's safe to assume the plane is in the ocean, with no survivors. They don't have rafts, and parachutes on commercial airliners.

How and why this happened, is yet to be determined.

Taltarzac725 03-30-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 853723)
There is no downside to hope and prayers.

That has certainly been my mantra for the past 22.8 years or so. I just hope that the families of the Malaysian Flight 370 do not have to wait that long for some kind of closure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...nes_Flight_370

buggyone 03-30-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 853748)
With the finding of finding remains of the plane, I think it's safe to assume the plane is in the ocean, with no survivors. They don't have rafts, and parachutes on commercial airliners.

How and why this happened, is yet to be determined.

Actually, the 777 did have 4 life rafts on it, according to Malysian Airlines, in a March 14 article in International Business News.

Ethopia is the pirate capitol of the world? I thought that was Somalia.

SantaClaus 03-30-2014 01:18 PM

Quite right, I misspoke, I meant Somalia.

janmcn 03-30-2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 853748)
With the finding of finding remains of the plane, I think it's safe to assume the plane is in the ocean, with no survivors. They don't have rafts, and parachutes on commercial airliners.

How and why this happened, is yet to be determined.


You are correct that commercial airliners do not have parachutes, but they have always had life rafts. The inflatable slides that passengers use to evacuate a plane can be disconnected from the plane and become a life raft for 25-30 people. Each raft has provisions attached, like locator beacons, etc. Even before inflatable slides were used on planes, there were life rafts on some planes stored in the aircraft ceiling.

Has anyone heard any speculation of why no cell phone calls were placed from passenger phones while they were still over land in Malaysia?

Shimpy 03-30-2014 04:14 PM

That plane could have make a perfect landing in the Indian ocean, like the one that went down in the Hudson, floated for several hours then sank intact without any wreakage whatsoever. The water there averages about 2 1/2 miles deep and the bottom could be like the Rocky Mountains.
I really believe several countries with advanced radar and satellites are not willing to show the world their capabilities and have a pretty good where it is.

wendyquat 03-30-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 853732)
I think I will take up embroidery and stitch that on something.


No...acrylic paint is faster.


Excellent post.

:BigApplause::agree::mademyday:

buggyone 03-30-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 853876)
That plane could have make a perfect landing in the Indian ocean, like the one that went down in the Hudson, floated for several hours then sank intact without any wreakage whatsoever. The water there averages about 2 1/2 miles deep and the bottom could be like the Rocky Mountains.
I really believe several countries with advanced radar and satellites are not willing to show the world their capabilities and have a pretty good where it is.

Well, if it did that, the four life rafts would have been used and they have homing beacons for radio contact.

Taltarzac725 04-01-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 853803)
You are correct that commercial airliners do not have parachutes, but they have always had life rafts. The inflatable slides that passengers use to evacuate a plane can be disconnected from the plane and become a life raft for 25-30 people. Each raft has provisions attached, like locator beacons, etc. Even before inflatable slides were used on planes, there were life rafts on some planes stored in the aircraft ceiling.

Has anyone heard any speculation of why no cell phone calls were placed from passenger phones while they were still over land in Malaysia?

I believe a theory is that the surviving pilot or co-pilot after taking control of the plane depressurized the cabin. Sure makes this look like a suicide of a pilot with a mass murder of all the other people.

John_W 04-01-2014 04:55 PM

On United 93 during 9/11, once the passengers became suspicious they immediately went to their cellphones. No one received a call from this plane. It leads me to believe the pilots were turning back to land because of some sort of emergency, smoke in the cockpit, a cargo of batteries smoking, a blown tire on takeoff burning, something along those lines. After the crew made the turn, the smoke rendered everyone unconscious similar to golfer Payne Stewart's 1999 flight. Once they turned to the new heading the plane continued on that course on autopilot until it ran out of gas.

Villages PL 04-01-2014 07:58 PM

I'm trying to visualize an honest-to-goodness miracle but I'm having some difficulty.

Taltarzac725 04-08-2014 07:24 AM

They might have found it.
 
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: What Happens Now? - ABC News

I still watch ABC World News with Diane Sawyer and saw that they may have had a breakthrough. http://abcnews.go.com/WN/

Bavarian 04-08-2014 09:46 AM

The Authorities know more about this then we have the need to know.
Returning the loved ones to their families does not mean they have to be alive.

buggyone 04-08-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian (Post 858683)
The Authorities know more about this then we have the need to know.
Returning the loved ones to their families does not mean they have to be alive.


The plane crashed into the ocean and went down to the bottom. No way of "returning the loved ones to their families".

It may never be known why the plane went down except it did go down in the ocean.


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