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perrjojo 04-11-2014 09:10 AM

Square 1 Burgers..
 
I just read in the Daily Sun that Square 1 will have doggie friendly patio dinning and features a special menu for our "furry friends". :popcorn::popcorn:

the square 04-11-2014 09:34 AM

If I want to eat with dogs, I'll bring a sandwich to the dog park..

2BNTV 04-11-2014 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 860287)
I just read in the Daily Sun that Square 1 will have doggie friendly patio dinning and features a special menu for our "furry friends". :popcorn::popcorn:

Sounds like a great place for a burger as long as they don't mix-up the meats. :jester:

It seems to be geared for gourmet burgers, so I'll visit this place of business.

The dogs are a plus in my opinion. :smiley:

rdhdleo 04-11-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 860311)
Sounds like a great place for a burger as long as they don't mix-up the meats. :jester:

It seems to be geared for gourmet burgers, so I'll visit this place of business.

The dogs are a plus in my opinion. :smiley:

:agree: We're giving it a try this afternoon!

big guy 04-11-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 860287)
I just read in the Daily Sun that Square 1 will have doggie friendly patio dinning and features a special menu for our "furry friends". :popcorn::popcorn:

I agree with "The Square"....."if I wanted to eat with the dogs I will take a sandwich to the dog park". Geez, everywhere I go there are dogs. I have nothing against pets but they don't belong in restaurants and grocery stores. It's an animal for Pete's sake! They don't wash their "hands" or wipe their butts!

Radioman41 04-11-2014 11:28 AM

Drove by about a half hour ago and they appeared full. All the outside seating was taken.

alanmcdonald 04-11-2014 11:50 AM

I was there are 11:45 today and they were lined up out the door, didn't have time to wait.

GaryW 04-11-2014 11:54 AM

We just had lunch from there,,, while the burger was good ( a double Juicy Lucy), the price was little much for it. Tasty, but not worth the 12.00. Just my thought.. Sweet Potato fries were ok,, not many of them in the bag. about hand full. But they were overly sweet. All together for 8 orders 120.05.

billethkid 04-11-2014 12:01 PM

clarification.....the OP said nothing about dogs in the restaurant....for clarification OP said:

"...doggie friendly patio..."

perrjojo 04-11-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 860379)
clarification.....the OP said nothing about dogs in the restaurant....for clarification OP said:

"...doggie friendly patio..."

There are some that just can't stand the thought of dogs being in public. I don't get it and I hope those people never live in Europe because dogs lay under the tables while you dine in most resturaunts. I guess I was feeling a little mischievous this morning and would see how many chains I could jerk.:pepper2::jester:

bargee 04-11-2014 12:58 PM

Thanks for the update,that will be one place I'll " scratch" off my list.

keithwand 04-11-2014 01:15 PM

I will still leave my 2 little dogs home.
They probably appreciate a little alone time too.

Russ_Boston 04-11-2014 01:18 PM

Weird how Florida considers the outside patio as not part of the restaurant. I guess this now goes for animals as well as smoking. It will take some time for FL to catch up with the numerous states that ban both from ANY part of the restaurant. But it will happen. Just hope I live long enough to see it.


Love dogs and love some people that smoke but please keep both away from my food.

TNLAKEPANDA 04-11-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bargee (Post 860411)
Thanks for the update,that will be one place I'll " scratch" off my list.

That will cut down the waiting list time.

gerryann 04-11-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by big guy (Post 860341)
I agree with "The Square"....."if I wanted to eat with the dogs I will take a sandwich to the dog park". Geez, everywhere I go there are dogs. I have nothing against pets but they don't belong in restaurants and grocery stores. It's an animal for Pete's sake! They don't wash their "hands" or wipe their butts!

A lot of two legged people don't wash their hands or butts either.

I'll bet you're not too pleased with the person who forced you to move to a dog friendly community......

John_W 04-11-2014 02:14 PM

We went today about 12:45 and a crowd was waiting outside. We put our name on the list for 2 and waited outside with the others. After about 15 minutes we were seated. Every table around us had bigger parties of 4, 6 or even more people. I also noticed most were having mixed drinks or draft beer, the prices on the menu looked like that could get expensive. I had a basic hamburger, no cheese just onion on a sesame seed bun, it was $9.99. I had cole slaw for my side, it was different, a lot of vinegar flavor, next time I'll try something else. My wife doesn't eat much meat so she had grilled cheese. It was loaded with a lot of other ingredients for $9.49 and she had broccoli for the side, which she said was good. With a sweet tea and a Pepsi it came to $25 and change plus tip. We'll probably try them again in a few weeks when the crowds die down.

zcaveman 04-11-2014 03:40 PM

I figure May or June is a good time to try Square 1 Burgers.

Z

big guy 04-11-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 860379)
clarification.....the OP said nothing about dogs in the restaurant....for clarification OP said:

"...doggie friendly patio..."


Still part of the restaurant if they serve food and drinks there.

Bogie Shooter 04-11-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keithwand (Post 860418)
I will still leave my 2 little dogs home.
They probably appreciate a little alone time too.

That is the common sense approach.:ho:

rdhdleo 04-11-2014 04:32 PM

Ok we just came back home from there. It was crowded but we got table for 2 inside right away. Very nice attentive friendly service. Ok Hubby had the American burger, I had the Philly Cheesesteak burger we had a full order of the onion rings, I had coleslaw with mine he had fries, he had iced tea I had diet pepsi. So our bill was just over $36 + tip! Too pricey for my taste for a burger place. The onion rings were huge and crunchy but had it not been for the chipolte ranch sauce would have been tasteless. The burgers were high quality meat I will give them that and cooked perfect and juicy but again mine was tasteless, guess they don't season anything? he said his was ok. So bottom line I think it is a nice place but I can get full nice dinners for that price. Since we are closer to 42 I doubt we'll be going there.
As for the crowds today I heard someone there say Bonifay lost power so many people headed to Square 1 there were groups of 6, 8 and 14 after we got there!

Beechie 04-11-2014 04:40 PM

OK I'll take the bait.

I for one fully understand the love one feels for their pets or should I say family members. We are dog owners but draw the line on dining out. I know this post is about Square 1 Burgers and we can't wait to try them out.

Now, here is an excerpt from a blog written by Suzanne that is worth repeating. The biggest concern most people neglect to mention...

ALLERGIES. There are millions of children and adults with severe allergies to dogs. It poses a health risk for them to be in an establishment that has pet dander. Should these paying patrons, human beings, be subjected to itching, wheezing, coughing or WORSE just so that a dog can relax under the table? It is completely ludicrous to subject one human being to a dangerous health environment so that an animal can enjoy the outdoor seating. Its shocking that your article completely ignores perhaps the most important crux of this argument – the fact that dogs in dining establishments can cause a health risk for other patrons.

This is not just about the fact that dogs carry fleas, walk barefoot on the pavement, step in their own urine and excrement and then walk into a cafe or restaurant where FOOD is being served. This is not just about the fact that waiters who may pet the dog, or brush past and contaminate their apron with pet dander may get harmful bacteria in another diner’s FOOD. This is not just the fact that dogs may be rambunctious, jump on the table, or try to grab some of the food and destroy the dining experience of paying customers. Nor is it just about the fact that pet owners may pet their dog and then take their hands and touch glasses, cutlery, plates and napkins, contaminating the washing water for restaurant equipment that is used to serve FOOD. This is not just about the fact that, according to the written law, the FDA has banned live animals from establishments where food is served. It is ILLEGAL, however you may try to brush it off or explain it away, those regulations are there to protect people. Not just from salmonella and e-coli, but from the harmful pathogens that dogs naturally carry. It is not only for these reasons that dogs should be banned from establishments where food is served. It is also for the fact that the simple act of bringing your dog into a restaurant or dining patio can cause tremendous and severe health risks for those who are allergic to dogs. One paying patron’s infatuation with their animal should never supersede the health and safety of another PAYING PATRON, especially when food is involved.

RedChariot 04-11-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Beechie (Post 860509)
OK I'll take the bait.

I for one fully understand the love one feels for their pets or should I say family members. We are dog owners but draw the line on dining out. I know this post is about Square 1 Burgers and we can't wait to try them out.

Now, here is an excerpt from a blog written by Suzanne that is worth repeating. The biggest concern most people neglect to mention...

ALLERGIES. There are millions of children and adults with severe allergies to dogs. It poses a health risk for them to be in an establishment that has pet dander. Should these paying patrons, human beings, be subjected to itching, wheezing, coughing or WORSE just so that a dog can relax under the table? It is completely ludicrous to subject one human being to a dangerous health environment so that an animal can enjoy the outdoor seating. Its shocking that your article completely ignores perhaps the most important crux of this argument – the fact that dogs in dining establishments can cause a health risk for other patrons.

This is not just about the fact that dogs carry fleas, walk barefoot on the pavement, step in their own urine and excrement and then walk into a cafe or restaurant where FOOD is being served. This is not just about the fact that waiters who may pet the dog, or brush past and contaminate their apron with pet dander may get harmful bacteria in another diner’s FOOD. This is not just the fact that dogs may be rambunctious, jump on the table, or try to grab some of the food and destroy the dining experience of paying customers. Nor is it just about the fact that pet owners may pet their dog and then take their hands and touch glasses, cutlery, plates and napkins, contaminating the washing water for restaurant equipment that is used to serve FOOD. This is not just about the fact that, according to the written law, the FDA has banned live animals from establishments where food is served. It is ILLEGAL, however you may try to brush it off or explain it away, those regulations are there to protect people. Not just from salmonella and e-coli, but from the harmful pathogens that dogs naturally carry. It is not only for these reasons that dogs should be banned from establishments where food is served. It is also for the fact that the simple act of bringing your dog into a restaurant or dining patio can cause tremendous and severe health risks for those who are allergic to dogs. One paying patron’s infatuation with their animal should never supersede the health and safety of another PAYING PATRON, especially when food is involved.

Very well written. You made a point I did not think of when I emailed the company stating they open themselves to liability having dogs on their premices. Dogs do not belong there. Please present this issue to the company by email. If the FDA says it's illegal, why do they not adhere to this law?

TraceyMooreRN 04-11-2014 06:35 PM

Went there Thursday night- 445ish--was great. Service and food. Although, my friends and husbands burger not exactly to order---tasted great. We will all go back. Specialty drinks on sale 4-6pm I think? Had several drinks, appetizer and burgers--50.00 bucks--I thought it was worth what we drank/ate.

yabbadu 04-11-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beechie (Post 860509)
OK I'll take the bait.

I for one fully understand the love one feels for their pets or should I say family members. We are dog owners but draw the line on dining out. I know this post is about Square 1 Burgers and we can't wait to try them out.

Now, here is an excerpt from a blog written by Suzanne that is worth repeating. The biggest concern most people neglect to mention...

ALLERGIES. There are millions of children and adults with severe allergies to dogs. It poses a health risk for them to be in an establishment that has pet dander. Should these paying patrons, human beings, be subjected to itching, wheezing, coughing or WORSE just so that a dog can relax under the table? It is completely ludicrous to subject one human being to a dangerous health environment so that an animal can enjoy the outdoor seating. Its shocking that your article completely ignores perhaps the most important crux of this argument – the fact that dogs in dining establishments can cause a health risk for other patrons.

This is not just about the fact that dogs carry fleas, walk barefoot on the pavement, step in their own urine and excrement and then walk into a cafe or restaurant where FOOD is being served. This is not just about the fact that waiters who may pet the dog, or brush past and contaminate their apron with pet dander may get harmful bacteria in another diner’s FOOD. This is not just the fact that dogs may be rambunctious, jump on the table, or try to grab some of the food and destroy the dining experience of paying customers. Nor is it just about the fact that pet owners may pet their dog and then take their hands and touch glasses, cutlery, plates and napkins, contaminating the washing water for restaurant equipment that is used to serve FOOD. This is not just about the fact that, according to the written law, the FDA has banned live animals from establishments where food is served. It is ILLEGAL, however you may try to brush it off or explain it away, those regulations are there to protect people. Not just from salmonella and e-coli, but from the harmful pathogens that dogs naturally carry. It is not only for these reasons that dogs should be banned from establishments where food is served. It is also for the fact that the simple act of bringing your dog into a restaurant or dining patio can cause tremendous and severe health risks for those who are allergic to dogs. One paying patron’s infatuation with their animal should never supersede the health and safety of another PAYING PATRON, especially when food is involved.

I am mystified that the Florida Health Dept. would allow an animal to eat on a patio along with humans....... The paper indicated there will be a doggie menu for the pets to enjoy.....
WOW... What animal is next!!!!!

perrjojo 04-11-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TraceyMooreRN (Post 860541)
Went there Thursday night- 445ish--was great. Service and food. Although, my friends and husbands burger not exactly to order---tasted great. We will all go back. Specialty drinks on sale 4-6pm I think? Had several drinks, appetizer and burgers--50.00 bucks--I thought it was worth what we drank/ate.

It seems everyone is enjoying the new resturaunt.

yabbadu 04-11-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 860384)
There are some that just can't stand the thought of dogs being in public. I don't get it and I hope those people never live in Europe because dogs lay under the tables while you dine in most resturaunts. I guess I was feeling a little mischievous this morning and would see how many chains I could jerk.:pepper2::jester:

We are NOT in Europe! Check you map...It's Florida!

Shimpy 04-11-2014 07:35 PM

Funny how The Villages is promoting their health care system and adding hamburger joints at the same time.

Shirleevee 04-11-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 860576)
Funny how The Villages is promoting their health care system and adding hamburger joints at the same time.

Loved Square !:

FYI....Sailor had the Salmon Burger and I had the Lump Crab (real) without the bun......delish!!!!!!!!!:MOJE_whot:

buggyone 04-11-2014 09:28 PM

Dogs are allowed in outdoor areas of restaurants as long as the restaurant follows the guide set forth in the law.

509.233 Public food service establishment requirements; local exemption for dogs in designated outdoor portions.

You may Google it for yourself. I am sure Square One Burger knows the law and will uphold themselves to those standards.

Of course, if you as a patron do not want to go to that restaurant - Just Do Not Go. Personally, I think it sounds like a great place and I am planning on eating there.

redwitch 04-11-2014 09:47 PM

I'll happily agree to a ban on dogs at all public places if there will be a ban against any and all scents in those same areas. I'm extremely sensitive to scents and that includes shampoos and bodywashes, not just perfumes and aftershaves. If I am at a restaurant and seated next to someone wearing a lot of scent or one that I am more sensitive to than others, I ask that I be moved. If I can't be accommodated, I leave. I don't ask the scented individual to leave. I don't get angry at the restaurant for following the law. Dogs are allowed in outdoor patio areas in the State of Florida. Smelly people are allowed in all areas of a restaurant. I'd much rather sit next to the dog than the perfumery.

And another one who plans to check out Square 1 -- probably on my next jaunt to the library.

Happinow 04-11-2014 09:57 PM

Doggies doo
 
And what happens when you bring your dog to the outdoor patio and it relieves itself while the others are eating their meal? I'll bet the burger won't taste so good then.

gerryann 04-11-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 860633)
And what happens when you bring your dog to the outdoor patio and it relieves itself while the others are eating their meal? I'll bet the burger won't taste so good then.

And you've seen this happen once, twice, more than that?.......

Barefoot 04-11-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 860621)
Dogs are allowed in outdoor areas of restaurants as long as the restaurant follows the guide set forth in the law. 509.233 Public food service establishment requirements; local exemption for dogs in designated outdoor portions.

You may Google it for yourself. I am sure Square One Burger knows the law and will uphold themselves to those standards. Of course, if you as a patron do not want to go to that restaurant - Just Do Not Go. Personally, I think it sounds like a great place and I am planning on eating there.

We had lunch Monday in St. Augustine. We had a choice of at least fifteen restaurants that allowed dogs on the patio. We chose Beaches at Vilano, overlooking the water. Delightful.

gerryann 04-11-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 860644)
We had lunch Monday in St. Augustine. We had a choice of at least fifteen restaurants that allowed dogs on the patio. We chose Beaches at Vilano, overlooking the water. Delightful.

When I visit my son in San Diego we always enjoy the pups on the patios at almost all restaurants with outside seating. Always pleasant.

jrandall 04-11-2014 10:42 PM

Patio Dining
 
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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 860384)
There are some that just can't stand the thought of dogs being in public. I don't get it and I hope those people never live in Europe because dogs lay under the tables while you dine in most resturaunts. I guess I was feeling a little mischievous this morning and would see how many chains I could jerk.:pepper2::jester:

If you dine along Lincoln Road or A1A in Miami Beach there are well behaved dogs everywhere. They usually just lie near their owners under the tables away from the sun.

wendyquat 04-11-2014 10:49 PM

We had lunch at Square 1 today and I could not help but think of some of you guys! We arrived just after 11 am and were promptly sat on the patio. Food and service were good!

Shortly after we sat down a couple with a small Maltese were seated a couple of seats from us and the server put down a metal water bowl for the furry kid! Mom and pop were intently studying Fidos menu and ordered for the doggie before ordering for themselves. Server brought out a plate with two chicken patties along with a metal food bowl for "Fido". Pop cut the patties into bite sized bits and mom handed him the metal doggie bowl. Pop put the pretty red "people" plate on top of the doggie bowl and set it on the ground for "Fido". Fido seemed to enjoy eating his food from the shiny red plate and licked it clean!

We also have a dog "kid" that pretty much goes where we go but the only time we EVER take him to eat with us is when we are traveling and it is too hot to leave him in the car. He does not wash his hands but he does seem to do a good job of getting his butt clean! :mmmm: I understand MOST dishwashers do a pretty good job!

Bonanza 04-12-2014 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 860448)
A lot of two legged people don't wash their hands or butts either.

I'll bet you're not too pleased with the person who forced you to move to a dog friendly community......

Gerryann -- I love your comment. I'm still laughing!

People that dislike dogs will never change and that's unfortunate
because (in my mind) they are missing so much.

Oh, well -- to each his own.

Bonanza 04-12-2014 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Happinow View Post

And what happens when you bring your dog to the outdoor patio and it relieves itself while the others are eating their meal? I'll bet the burger won't taste so good then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 860641)
And you've seen this happen once, twice, more than that?.......


Happinow -- I think you're stretching it a wee bit.
I've NEVER seen this happen in an outside patio/restaurant.
Never!

But I'll tell you what IS worse.
It's screaming kids that run around in a restaurant
that isn't Mickey D's or similar!

My suggestion to you:
Don't eat outside!

Bonanza 04-12-2014 12:46 AM

My husband and I have been to Square 1 and found the food to be good, but on the expensive side for what it is.

On the dog subject -- from what I've read, dogs are going to be permitted on the outside patio. First let me say that my husband and I are dog lovers and have dogs.

I don't feel that this particular outside eating area lends itself to having a dog with you. First of all -- all the tables are high tops so you are well above the ground where I assume, dogs will lay down. Secondly, the tables are very close together and truthfully, there is no room for a pet. In addition, I don't feel it is fair that a server has to step over someone's pet while carrying a tray.

If you've been there or go there, I think you will agree.

wendyquat 04-12-2014 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 860662)
My husband and I have been to Square 1 and found the food to be good, but on the expensive side for what it is.

On the dog subject -- from what I've read, dogs are going to be permitted on the outside patio. First let me say that my husband and I are dog lovers and have dogs.

I don't feel that this particular outside eating area lends itself to having a dog with you. First of all -- all the tables are high tops so you are well above the ground where I assume, dogs will lay down. Secondly, the tables are very close together and truthfully, there is no room for a pet. In addition, I don't feel it is fair that a server has to step over someone's pet while carrying a tray.

If you've been there or go there, I think you will agree.

Exactly what I said to my husband today. There's really not enough floor space for dogs! I wondered why they didn't extend the patio to the corner of the building!


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