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Which palm?
We lost 3 queen palms, so we are trying to gather more info before replacing them. What about the European Fan and does anyone know how much we can expect to pay for a 30 gallon one and the install? Thanks for your help.
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Village Palms always has a good selection of European Fan Palms. A 30 gallon tree usually cost $300.00 which includes delivery and installation. The nursery is located on CR 466, just before Rolling Acres Rd. in Lady Lake.
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Be very careful because if the cause of your previous palm's demise was ganoderma, or butt rot, you shouldn't put any species of palm back in the same location. The disease is in the soil.
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you can also shop Home Depot, 1 year guaranty
30 gal $125-$150 |
I like european palms, fan palms and sylvester palms.
The european and fan are more low growing over a longer period of time, the sylvester palm is very pretty with a very distinct trunk and a nice canopy. I would think if you were replacing queen palms, the sylvester may be the best choice due to its look and height. |
Well if you want the look of a Queen without the problems a Mule will be my first choice.
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Instead of a palm, have you considered a "real" tree? A shade tree, perhaps, or an ornamental flowering tree? Why does it have to be another palm? You may have a problem when you plant in the exact same place. |
Ahhh!....so true
The best replacement, ANYTHING but a Palm....LOTS of maintenance and the roaches LOVE them!
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Another vote for anything but a palm. Central Florida is not in the tropics. Palms belong elsewhere. They're prone to diseases, attract bugs and rats. Yup, Miami can have 'em.
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I have five different palms (Chinese fan palm, Sylvester, three trunk queen, Washingtonian, robellini) that were planted about 2.5 years ago. They are all thriving. Have never seen bugs or rats! Hope it continues! I do protect the robellini in the cold weather by wrapping it.
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You have all those palms and have never seen bugs???!? Generally, you will never see cockroaches except at night and that goes for many other bugs. One thing I can promise you is that they ARE there and they are plentiful! |
I love my palms, especially the one planted right by my enclosed lanai - when the windows are open the sound of the fronds rustling in the breeze can't be beat. Haven't had a problem. Also had them in Jax Beach and never had a problem. I think this is an urban myth.
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I did read however that the dead fronds need to be trimmed if those are left there is chance the bugs will find a spot in decaying fronds. Not sure why folks wish to find fault with these beautiful plants |
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They are to small to eat roaches, but the eggs I would guess yes.
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I haven't really noticed any bugs or rats around or in my palms and I think I pay pretty close attention to that kind of stuff.
I too love the sound of the palm fronds in the breeze when I am sitting on my linai. We are in Florida. Florida is for palms. |
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You won't see the roaches or rats unless you're outside during the wee small hours of the night. The rats nest at the top and the bugs are in the dead and dried out parts along the trunk, usually high up also. The rustling of the leaves in a tree make the same sound as the palm fronds when there's a breeze. I guess you haven't been here long enough to want shade -- to keep both you and your house cooler :thumbup:, or else it just doesn't matter to you. |
Bonanza - respectfully disagree. There is no comparison between the sound of palm fronds and an oak tree when the wind blows. I really don't believe a palm tree automatically equates to bugs and rats. As someone said, if they are pruned and cared for properly you eliminate that problem. Perhaps you've been here so long you can no longer appreciate their beauty!
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look this debate is silly, only one person says there's bugs without proof and more than enough said there isn't.
Lets move on...... |
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...I worry more about the aphids and other insects attacking my hibiscus and tomato plants!
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But I do get tired of the repeated palm look that prevails throughout most sections of The Villages. Truthfully, I don't think much about the sound of the wind through the palm fronds. I much prefer the sound of chirping birds flying from one tree to another. I also like the fact that trees provide shade and keep your house cooler. |
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The bugs which are attracted to palm trees is not an old wives' tale or a myth. It is also not a debate; my comments are based on cold, hard facts. Scale If you found a lot of little circular, brown colored scales on your palm tree you are in trouble. It’s called “palm leaf scales”. You would never guess but palm leaf scales are actually a mature female small insect. They literally are just a small headless, legless bump and once the female has matured, it is unable to move from where it has planted itself. Mealybugs They belong to a family of unarmored scale insects found in moist, warm climates. Mealybug females feed on plant sap, normally in roots or other crevices. They attach themselves to the plant and secrete a powdery wax layer (therefore the name mealybug) used for protection while they suck the plant juices. The males on the other hand, are short-lived as they do not feed at all as adults and only live to fertilize the females. Cabbage Palm Caterpillar Cabbage palm caterpillars, found throughout Florida, target the cabbage palmetto almost exclusively. They rarely kill palm trees but the insects do destroy the trees' blossoms. They are a nuisance to humans as well because they often enter homes looking for suitable places to pupate. Control by insecticides is possible under certain circumstances if carefully managed. Giant Palm Borer The borer is a large and quite ugly beetle whose larvae have a taste for the wood of the Washingtonia and Phoenix varieties. Borer grubs can live inside a palm trunk for up to nine years before exiting as beetles through quarter-sized holes. Palm Budworm The budworm is a beetle whose larvae feed on the flowers of a range of fan palms. The caterpillars are about an inch long and a pinky-green in color. Palmetto Weevil The Palmetto Weevil can be found throughout Florida, as far west as southern Texas and as far north as South Carolina. It is North America's largest weevil. This pest has a taste primarily for the Cabbage Palm (sabal palmetto) although it will infest Saw Palmettos (serrenoa repens) and, occasionally, Canary Island Date Palms (phoenix canariensis), Washington Palms (washingtonia), Royal Palms (roystonea), and some coconut palms. Royal Palm Bug The Royal Palm Bug is an unusual insect. It feeds on only one plant, the royal palm, and the female lays one egg a day during the spring, a little like a chicken. The bugs rarely kill the host tree but the damage they do can be unsightly and they are difficult to control given the height of mature royal palms. These insects are the only North American members of the Thaumastocoridae family. The above is just a small synopsis of some of the pests which invade palms. There are, however, plenty more critters. |
without citing a source for your facts, they have little merit IMO
Moreover, any fact you may find in support needs to be from this area or plant zone. For example you talk about the Royal palm bug but In Florida, royal palm distribution is limited to the southern third of the peninsula. Not here the fact remains no one else that owns palms here has concurred with your opinion. U don't like them we get that If this were a poll you would not win your argument. I'm outta here. |
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