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raynan 04-19-2014 03:20 PM

Sink hole!
 
In Buttonwood off Arrobes Place in the Beecher Path area.

graciegirl 04-19-2014 03:39 PM

When you get a lot of rain it happens. Did it harm the home?

janmcn 04-19-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by raynan (Post 864736)
In Buttonwood off Arrobes Place in the Beecher Path area.


Is it under a house, in the yard, or in the street? Tell us more.

raynan 04-19-2014 03:52 PM

At the corner of a house and starting to go under and the neighbor's house is quite close.

janmcn 04-19-2014 03:58 PM

Yikes, are the police there evacuating the area?

raynan 04-19-2014 04:05 PM

I haven't been over there yet. Got a phone call from someone in that neighborhood with a pix in the email. I'll check it out later on our way out and report back.

TraceyMooreRN 04-19-2014 04:34 PM

Can someone post a pic?

Bogie Shooter 04-19-2014 04:39 PM

Wouldn't be best if people stayed away from the scene??

spk7951 04-19-2014 04:47 PM

Story is on News 13 web site.

PHOTOS: Sinkhole growing, threatens 2 houses in The Villages

dodaneodwyer 04-19-2014 04:53 PM

Yikes!

graciegirl 04-19-2014 05:13 PM

Wonder if it is near the retention pond on Chalmer Terrace. They often are.

gomoho 04-19-2014 05:15 PM

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graciegirl 04-19-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 864788)
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Where was that? Whoops. it is gone.

Patty55 04-19-2014 05:19 PM

Does that house have a foundation? Where are the footings? I really know nothing about sink holes, did they suck in the foundation?

buggyone 04-19-2014 05:21 PM

This is the "Catastrophic Ground Collapse" in your homeowner insurance and usually has a $500 deductible. The home has to be declared unsafe to occupy. I think that is met for these houses.

This IS NOT what is covered in Sinkhole Insurance.

TheVillageChicken 04-19-2014 05:23 PM

The guy in the blue shirt has the potential to be a finalist for the Darwin Award.

rdhdleo 04-19-2014 05:26 PM

Scary!!!

rdhdleo 04-19-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 864796)
This is the "Catastrophic Ground Collapse" in your homeowner insurance and usually has a $500 deductible. The home has to be declared unsafe to occupy. I think that is met for these houses.

This IS NOT what is covered in Sinkhole Insurance.

Ok I am feeling really stupid on this subject, please can you explain the difference between catastrophic ground collapse and sinkhole? Appreciate it much!

renielarson 04-19-2014 05:36 PM

This must be why there is a helicopter hovering overhead very close to my house. I was wondering what was going on. YIKES!

buggyone 04-19-2014 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rdhdleo (Post 864801)
Ok I am feeling really stupid on this subject, please can you explain the difference between catastrophic ground collapse and sinkhole? Appreciate it much!

For the purpose of homeowner insurance - the sudden collapse of the ground like what happened at Buttonwood is covered. The "sinkhole coverage" is for the very gradual sinking of the ground that will put small cracks in walls, floors, etc and these will continue growing into larger and larger cracks. Sinkhole insurance is harder to find and has a high deductible. Catastrophic ground collapse is routinely covered and usually has the standard deductible. The foundation of the house must be compromised to pay a claim.

rdhdleo 04-19-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 864807)
For the purpose of homeowner insurance - the sudden collapse of the ground like what happened at Buttonwood is covered. The "sinkhole coverage" is for the very gradual sinking of the ground that will put small cracks in walls, floors, etc and these will continue growing into larger and larger cracks. Sinkhole insurance is harder to find and has a high deductible. Catastrophic ground collapse is routinely covered and usually has the standard deductible. The foundation of the house must be compromised to pay a claim.

Thank you so VERY much for clearing that up for me. Really appreciate your time!

janmcn 04-19-2014 05:51 PM

The address of one of the houses is 2057 Chalmer Terrace. The homes back up to the golf course. The retention pond is further down the street.

gpirate 04-19-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 864787)
Wonder if it is near the retention pond on Chalmer Terrace. They often are.

Does not appear near water, but near a golf course.

TheVillageChicken 04-19-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gpirate (Post 864827)
Does not appear near water, but near a golf course.

It's a divot.

John_W 04-19-2014 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 864814)
The address of one of the houses is 2057 Chalmer Terrace. The homes back up to the golf course. The retention pond is further down the street.

That is on the left side of the fairway to the 6th hole of Jacaranda nine at Cane Garden. For those that play Cane a lot, that's the hole that had a temporary green for a few months a little while ago.

That's about 600 yards north of us in Southern Star Villas. A helicopter has been hovering in place at about 800' directly above that site for at least 30 minutes or more. We can hear it loud & clear here. Channel 2 WESH News at 6:30 had a news story with about 45 seconds of video. It looked pretty severe. Channel 2 said a construction crew had been at the home working for about two weeks when this started. I'm wondering if that means they had foundation cracks, didn't say what they were working on.

TicoTexan 04-19-2014 06:31 PM

Tropical Storm Debby leaves sinkholes in the Villages

Photos showing several SMALLER sinkholes:

Tropical Storm Debby leaves sinkholes in the Villages | www.wftv.com

Barefoot 04-19-2014 06:47 PM

According to the online news, cement trucks are there filling the hole.
What a scary experience for the homeowners.
I feel so sorry for them.

BarryRX 04-19-2014 06:53 PM

How terrible for the families.

graciegirl 04-19-2014 07:06 PM

Bare and Barry. You are right. I can't imagine how frightening it must be.

Nlnicholson 04-19-2014 07:09 PM

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Picture from Village news

bluedog103 04-19-2014 07:22 PM

According to WESH.com crews from the contractor Helicon USA had been working on that sinkhole for two weeks when a whole lot more dirt was swallowed up this morning.

graciegirl 04-19-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bluedog103 (Post 864871)
According to WESH.com crews from the contractor Helicon USA had been working on that sinkhole for two weeks when a whole lot more dirt was swallowed up this morning.


From Helicon's site showing the many projects they have completed in Florida. Scary!



http://www.heliconfoundationrepair.c...ith-points.jpg

Neal2tire 04-19-2014 07:33 PM

just got back. Walked over as to not cause traffic. Many people are blocking the area with cars and carts. Police asked everyone to move back and surprising to me a few residents gave him a hard time. Odd. They are busy bringing in cement mixers one after another and they don't need people getting in the way. Watch it on TV

Steve & Deanna 04-19-2014 07:41 PM

Good point about gawkers rubber necking to see what's going on. These people should just get away and let those offering professional help do their work. Our prayers are with those affected.

graciegirl 04-19-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal2tire (Post 864875)
just got back. Walked over as to not cause traffic. Many people are blocking the area with cars and carts. Police asked everyone to move back and surprising to me a few residents gave him a hard time. Odd. They are busy bringing in cement mixers one after another and they don't need people getting in the way. Watch it on TV


It is kind that you used the word odd. I think it is terribly self centered. Shame on them.

dbussone 04-19-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna (Post 864878)
Good point about gawkers rubber necking to see what's going on. These people should just get away and let those offering professional help do their work. Our prayers are with those affected.


Lots of prayers need to be offered! We have friends 2 houses away.

KittyKat 04-19-2014 07:58 PM

WFTV.com has some (10) pictures & story under "local news." Apparently this started 3 weeks ago and when it was smaller it was filled in then after the rain yesterday the hole really got big this morning. :pray:

raynan 04-19-2014 08:17 PM

Just got back from our "scavenger hunt" and decided not to go over there. While we were coming down St Charles earlier I saw the helicopter and several cars and carts headed that way and decided they didn't need me over there too. We live in the area just opposite them across the golf course. I feel very bad for the people whose homes are affected.
Nancy

Phanatic Luvr 04-19-2014 08:37 PM

We back up to St. Charles and my hubby has been noticing cement mixers (approx. 30 or more) going down St. Charles for the past week or more. Last night we went by this home, as one of our neighbors mentioned there was a sinkhole problem on Chalmer yesterday, and we did see where the area that is now the huge sinkhole, was filled with concrete. As I am typing this at 9:30pm, we are seeing cement truck after truck going down St. Charles. Scary!!!!!
Thoughts and prayers to those who own these homes.

uprivergirl 04-19-2014 08:54 PM

We are praying for the families and also the workers. We live in Ca. and saw it on our News. I was glad I already knew about it because of TOTV forum.


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