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dsnrbec 04-23-2014 06:52 AM

More problems at sinkhole
 
My husband was walking this morning about 5:30 and as he passed the houses where the sinkhole was in Buttonwood he noticed the concrete fill had dropped about 8 feet. Now there's a helicopter overhead. Looks like the problem is not solved.

graciegirl 04-23-2014 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 866648)
My husband was walking this morning about 5:30 and as he passed the houses where the sinkhole was in Buttonwood he noticed the concrete fill had dropped about 8 feet. Now there's a helicopter overhead. Looks like the problem is not solved.


I hate to be an alarmist, but I hope we don't all need to learn Chinese. OH DEAR!

mulligan 04-23-2014 07:10 AM

Yo G, order me a dozen egg rolls.

TheVillageChicken 04-23-2014 07:15 AM

Besides the engineer who spoke for the remediation company, who didn't see this coming?

raynan 04-23-2014 07:17 AM

Channel 9 is covering it.

Cynbod 04-23-2014 07:19 AM

According to the news the sinkhole has begun to grow away from the cement and the cement has sunk several feet. These homeowners and their neighbors must be super upset. Nothing funny about it; it is very sad for all of them.

Bizdoc 04-23-2014 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by raynan (Post 866663)
Channel 9 is covering it.

Do they have enough concrete facts to do it?

asianthree 04-23-2014 07:25 AM

Is the concrete just settling in as it cures in the sinkhole

DonH57 04-23-2014 07:49 AM

Hopefully no one stated it would be a quick fix. I certainly hope no one expected a one and done with mother nature. That concrete has a lot of nooks and crannies ti fill.

dsnrbec 04-23-2014 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 866670)
Is the concrete just settling in as it cures in the sinkhole

The engineer said on Saturday that some settling should be expected but this has gone beyond that. We're back to news trucks, helicopter and a closed street so it's obviously more than settling.

NoMoSno 04-23-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 866670)
Is the concrete just settling in as it cures in the sinkhole

Dropped 6ft and hole expanded.

NECHFalcon68 04-23-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 866699)
The engineer said on Saturday that some settling should be expected but this has gone beyond that. We're back to news trucks, helicopter and a closed street so it's obviously more than settling.

1. dont rely on news trucks and helicopters to tell you the facts...they are just feasting dogs.
2. one entrance in and out of the development. For the sake of the residents, they need crowd control.
3. whether it has gone beyond "some settling" is pure speculation. Wait until you hear from the Engineer/Geologist....

8notes 04-23-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 866649)
I hate to be an alarmist, but I hope we don't all need to learn Chinese. OH DEAR!

You're so funny! I love it.

tucson 04-23-2014 10:13 AM

It's not funny to the homeowners......

NoMoSno 04-23-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NECHFalcon68 (Post 866796)
1. dont rely on news trucks and helicopters to tell you the facts...they are just feasting dogs.
2. one entrance in and out of the development. For the sake of the residents, they need crowd control.
3. whether it has gone beyond "some settling" is pure speculation. Wait until you hear from the Engineer/Geologist....

Pictures tell the story:
Photos: Villages sinkhole opens up again | www.wftv.com

karostay 04-23-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 866649)
I hate to be an alarmist, but I hope we don't all need to learn Chinese. OH DEAR!

Don't think it's something to make fun of

gerryann 04-23-2014 10:21 AM

Prayers for the whole neighborhood are needed. I'm sure they don't know which way to turn.....very tough situation for all of them.

villagetinker 04-23-2014 10:28 AM

This is a real mess. We had sinkholes up North (PA), but nothing like this one. I am guessing the concrete did not originally fill up the 'throat' of the sinkhole, or maybe it stopped there and there was a void below that gave way. Definitely not an expert in this. I would expect some holes to be drilled next to determine the extent of the void, followed by a lot more concrete.

I hope they find a solution to this problem, and quickly.

tucson 04-23-2014 10:54 AM

Is overdevelopment the other reason of more sinkholes???.... cnbc.com/id/100965671

quirky3 04-23-2014 11:00 AM

I wish there were some kind of technology to see below the surface at sinkholes and potential sinkhole areas. Maybe there is, and they just never thought of applying it to sinkholes.

slipcovers 04-23-2014 11:30 AM

I notice from the photos that this seems to be a designer house and I am wondering if the size and weight, block, would have anything to do with forming a sinkhole?

tucson 04-23-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by slipcovers (Post 866859)
I notice from the photos that this seems to be a designer house and I am wondering if the size and weight, block, would have anything to do with forming a sinkhole?

Fyi; dep.state.fl.us/geology/geologictopics/sinkhole.htm

loveinthesun 04-23-2014 12:14 PM

My heart and prayers go out to them all on that block. I'm sure it causing allot of stress.

Dirigo 04-23-2014 01:03 PM

Has anyone ever seen or heard of a sinkhole in a commercial area? Or do they just happen in residential areas?

Just wondering...

Steve9930 04-23-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 866842)
I wish there were some kind of technology to see below the surface at sinkholes and potential sinkhole areas. Maybe there is, and they just never thought of applying it to sinkholes.

There is but a very expensive test.

Steve9930 04-23-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by slipcovers (Post 866859)
I notice from the photos that this seems to be a designer house and I am wondering if the size and weight, block, would have anything to do with forming a sinkhole?

Sink Holes are just a fact of life in Florida. You have more because of the Florida substructure. They can happen anywhere in the state but are more common in the Central Florida Area. There is a map which depicts where there is sink hole activity.

Steve9930 04-23-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirigo (Post 866900)
Has anyone ever seen or heard of a sinkhole in a commercial area? Or do they just happen in residential areas?

Just wondering...

They can occur anywhere.

ilovetv 04-23-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirigo (Post 866900)
Has anyone ever seen or heard of a sinkhole in a commercial area? Or do they just happen in residential areas?

Just wondering...

Here is a photo and story of a big one that ate a stop light and Cadillac Escalade with lots of cavity to spare, in Milwaukee:

Mary Louise Schumacher - Car, driver tumble into giant sinkhole amid rainstorm

RErmer 04-23-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirigo (Post 866900)
Has anyone ever seen or heard of a sinkhole in a commercial area? Or do they just happen in residential areas?

Just wondering...

Yes, remember when the Corvette museum lost a lot of cars in a sinkhole relatively recently? I've been a Florida resident for over 30 years and have learned sinkholes can happen anywhere, anytime in this state. Not too encouraging, however, also a very small chance of being personally affected.

surething 04-25-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tucson (Post 866835)
Is overdevelopment the other reason of more sinkholes???.... cnbc.com/id/100965671

I think you bring up an interesting issue. One of the contributory factors with sinkholes is exactly encroachment on the land as well as weight. I wonder about adding swimming pools along with all the added ponds around? Controversial issue, no doubt. I think it would also be helpful to begin thinking of an emergency kit both in your home and your car, just in case. Am used to doing this in the past due to earthquakes. There is also an Earthquake Preparedness Month in California, just a fact of life living there, now have to deal with sinkholes here. All we really can do is be aware and prepare, and then put all of this in the background. Best wishes to all and we will continue to enjoy The Villages.

Here is a helpful and informative link regarding past Villages' sinkhole activity, insurance, etc.


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