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applesoffh 05-10-2014 03:00 PM

Square One Burgers
 
Went to Square One Burgers today at 1pm for lunch. Place was packed! Happy we decided to see for ourselves what the restaurant was all about. Burgers were done exactly the way we wanted them, and not the way the restaurant thought they should be cooked. YES! Won't argue that they are a bit pricey but my husband and I agreed that the price was worth it, and will definitely go again. To all the naysayers who posted on a previous thread about Suqare One - if it's too expensive for you, don't go. Anyone interested can go online and check the menu and prices. First timers can sign up and get a $5.00 coupon. As I stated above, we will definitely go back.

CFrance 05-10-2014 03:24 PM

That's nice to know about the coupon. We did sign up for their loyalty club as well, even though we probably won't go there as much as we would other places. It just helps you be aware of special offerings.

Aloha 05-20-2014 01:27 PM

What was the prices of their burgers for dogs? Was it just as over-priced as the burgers for humans?

Taltarzac725 05-20-2014 01:58 PM

They do seem a little steep for a burger.
 
http://www.square1burgers.com/storag...ges%20Menu.pdf

Glad to hear about the coupon. Where do you sign up for the Loyalty Club?

dewilson58 05-20-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha (Post 880269)
What was the prices of their burgers for dogs? Was it just as over-priced as the burgers for humans?


Burgers for dogs cost more..............there is more meat, less filler.


:22yikes::22yikes:

ilovetv 05-20-2014 02:35 PM

The Square 1 menu looks delicious with a nice variety!

Nice to see a new restaurant that is not TooJays, Cody's and the others already at the town squares.

This will be a good alternative to Five Guys, which at Brownwood looks unappetizing because of the bright lights and messy floors and strewn-around chairs (have seen poor housekeeping there every time we tried it). Atmosphere leaves much to be desired.

Cisco Kid 05-20-2014 03:15 PM

Portobello ?
 
I am waiting for a review on the Portobello Please.

They hold me over between Morel seasons.

LittleDog 05-20-2014 03:30 PM

My wife and I went for lunch the other day. I ordered the chicken with pineapple and other sauces. It was delicious. My wife ordered a plain hamburger without a bun. There was grease all over the plate. To me that gives the burger flavor but she didn't like all the grease. Don't know whether I can get her to go back there. If she had ordered a burger with a bun she might not have noticed all the grease.

John

villagerjack 05-20-2014 04:48 PM

Grease is the best part.

Trayderjoe 05-27-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 880297)
The Square 1 menu looks delicious with a nice variety!

Nice to see a new restaurant that is not TooJays, Cody's and the others already at the town squares.

This will be a good alternative to Five Guys, which at Brownwood looks unappetizing because of the bright lights and messy floors and strewn-around chairs (have seen poor housekeeping there every time we tried it). Atmosphere leaves much to be desired.

My wife and I ate there Sunday afternoon and found the previous postings to be right in line with our experience. The restaurant and the restrooms were clean and we enjoyed the ambiance, although the red velvet seating section did remind us a little of a brothel from the old westerns on television :). Our server's name was Jenny and she was excellent-we would not hesitate to request her as our server and do recommend her. She asked if this was our first time (it was) and she "filled us in" including information about the loyalty club with the $5.00 coupon and that the club does something for our birthday (no details there but we didn't ask either). She brought up the price and acknowledged that the cost was higher, and attributed it to the fresh ingredients without apology. I was glad to hear the server being upfront about the cost and not be apologetic about it. We started with the fried mac n' cheese with their SQ1 Sooner dipping sauce. The appetizer was very good and worth the price. The dipping sauce was not as spicy as I thought it might be (my wife doesn't like to eat food that has "heat", yet she enjoyed the dipping sauce-so it could not have been too hot). Our burgers (I had the South of the Border and she had the Turkey Cobb) were prepared as ordered and were quite juicy versus greasy. There was good spacing between the appetizer and the burgers, so we were able to enjoy the background music while being able to chat and "knosh" on the appetizer. OK, as to the cost-for our burgers, appetizer and sweet teas without tip came to about $37.00. Putting this into perspective, we have had similarly priced burgers at two other chain restaurants: Ruby Tuesday's and Famous Dave's BBQ. The prime Angus burgers at RT's were greasy and not as fresh tasting as Square One, whereas the brisket burgers at Famous Dave's were in our opinion the best of the three. Note that Square One allows you to "upgrade" your beef to Kobe beef or buffalo for an extra $5 if you so choose. I would not recommend this unless you had a discerning palette so that you could enjoy the difference. Summing up, if price is your primary consideration, there may be other more appealing options. If freshly prepared products are your preference, then having good service, a clean restaurant and nice atmosphere may have you going back.

rubicon 05-27-2014 10:20 AM

I reviewed their menu carefully and have concluded that their prices will play havoc with the concept of elastic demand or as the folks in my hometown would say "Lordy, those prices will send you broke" "Can't eat there but once in a blue moon":D

CFrance 05-27-2014 11:07 AM

Good, honest review, Trayderjoe.

The only thing that I might add is that their idea of medium rare is my idea of rare. My lamb burger was too rare in the middle. Be careful when you order. I will ask for medium or well done in the future.

MikeV 05-27-2014 02:51 PM

I went there solo and they did not seem to like that I did not want to sit at the bar and requested a table instead. It wasn't busy so I don't get the problem. I had to ask twice not to be seated at the bar. Food - Fantastic.

Aloha 06-03-2014 03:51 PM

Any comments about the menu for dogs there? I understand it is fabulous. How do they cook For both dogs and humans in the same kitchen? Perhaps it is not a problem?

CFrance 06-03-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha (Post 887415)
Any comments about the menu for dogs there? I understand it is fabulous. How do they cook For both dogs and humans in the same kitchen? Perhaps it is not a problem?

It's all the same food. Human food for all.

gingin410 06-19-2014 12:53 PM

Poor customer service
 
I am an old-fashioned American cheese-burger fan and always add sweet relish. I started asking for Square One to carry sweet relish back in April. I even sent an e-mail to the address published on their site. Not only haven't they made sweet relish available for those that request it, I feel as though I have been ignored as I could have received a response to my e-mail. Anyway...I won't vote for them as the best burger place.

Patty55 06-19-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gingin410 (Post 895488)
I am an old-fashioned American cheese-burger fan and always add sweet relish. I started asking for Square One to carry sweet relish back in April. I even sent an e-mail to the address published on their site. Not only haven't they made sweet relish available for those that request it, I feel as though I have been ignored as I could have received a response to my e-mail. Anyway...I won't vote for them as the best burger place.

If you like the place why not bring your own relish? When I lived in upstate NY I brought my own cranberry sauce to one place, had to bring real butter to almost everywhere else.

CFrance 06-19-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 895502)
If you like the place why not bring your own relish? When I lived in upstate NY I brought my own cranberry sauce to one place, had to bring real butter to almost everywhere else.

I can see that. You'd think a hamburger joint would have relish, though...

Down Sized 06-19-2014 01:43 PM

I'm from central USA. I must say I have never heard of relish on a hamburger. Let alone sweet relish. Maybe a hot dog. Is this a Philippines or South Korea thing?

CFrance 06-19-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Down Sized (Post 895513)
I'm from central USA. I must say I have never heard of relish on a hamburger. Let alone sweet relish. Maybe a hot dog. Is this a Philippines or South Korea thing?

Nope. grew up with it in PA and later NJ and MI.

Bogie Shooter 06-19-2014 02:31 PM

Relish is for hot dogs!

Indydealmaker 06-19-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingin410 (Post 895488)
I am an old-fashioned American cheese-burger fan and always add sweet relish. I started asking for Square One to carry sweet relish back in April. I even sent an e-mail to the address published on their site. Not only haven't they made sweet relish available for those that request it, I feel as though I have been ignored as I could have received a response to my e-mail. Anyway...I won't vote for them as the best burger place.

That is interesting that you did not get an email response. I have corresponded by email with both corporate and the local restaurant with excellent results.

Bonny 06-19-2014 02:55 PM

I'm from Michigan. Never heard of relish on a hamburger. Pickles on a burger, relish on a hot dog. But, we all like what we like. I like mayo on my burger and people will say, oh no, mustard & ketchup. LOL

CFrance 06-19-2014 03:19 PM

I don't like relish on anything anymore. But we did have it in GR. They also had a hot dog relish that was mustard based. Now that was good.

gatherer47 06-19-2014 03:26 PM

I have noticed several restaurants that don't carry relish.I do use it on my burger.And Bonny,I put mayo on my peanut butter sandwich.

CFrance 06-19-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gatherer47 (Post 895577)
I have noticed several restaurants that don't carry relish.I do use it on my burger.And Bonny,I put mayo on my peanut butter sandwich.

So does my husband. Blech.

SantaClaus 06-19-2014 04:37 PM

Hmmm... the website says there's no doggie dining at the Villages location, but it sounds like folks who have been say there is. Can anyone confirm?

Indydealmaker 06-19-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SantaClaus (Post 895617)
Hmmm... the website says there's no doggie dining at the Villages location, but it sounds like folks who have been say there is. Can anyone confirm?

There was Doggie Dining at the new location for a few weeks until management determined that Wildwood needed to write a town regulation approving or disapproving dogs dining on outdoor patios.

Typical of the way our brilliant government works: Such a activity is legal in Florida provided that the local government does not have a law against it. Even though Wildwood DID NOT have a law against it, since they did not have one FOR , the doggie dining was illegal.

REALLY ASS BACKWARDS! I guess in our New World Order, everything is illegal unless a law is written allowing it. Now I am really worried. I just checked and there is no law specifically allowing breathing in a public place!

TomOB 06-19-2014 06:29 PM

Pickle relish is chopped pickles IMHO.

BarryRX 06-19-2014 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 895650)
There was Doggie Dining at the new location for a few weeks until management determined that Wildwood needed to write a town regulation approving or disapproving dogs dining on outdoor patios.

Typical of the way our brilliant government works: Such a activity is legal in Florida provided that the local government does not have a law against it. Even though Wildwood DID NOT have a law against it, since they did not have one FOR , the doggie dining was illegal.

REALLY ASS BACKWARDS! I guess in our New World Order, everything is illegal unless a law is written allowing it. Now I am really worried. I just checked and there is no law specifically allowing breathing in a public place!

I think you've got that a bit backwards. You say that this is typical of the way our brilliant government works and it has something to do with our "New World Order", when in fact our government (Federal, State, or Local) did absolutely nothing in this case. What probably happened is that some lawyer at Square One corporate headquarters decided that their corporate exposure to lawsuits was too great unless a law was passed allowing it. Isn't this post supposed to be about a hamburger restaurant?

Indydealmaker 06-19-2014 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 895669)
I think you've got that a bit backwards. You say that this is typical of the way our brilliant government works and it has something to do with our "New World Order", when in fact our government (Federal, State, or Local) did absolutely nothing in this case. What probably happened is that some lawyer at Square One corporate headquarters decided that their corporate exposure to lawsuits was too great unless a law was passed allowing it. Isn't this post supposed to be about a hamburger restaurant?

Barry, I have talked to corporate and they were told to stop the doggie dining by Wildwood until Wildwood established a permit structure. Square1 lawyers had already researched and found that there were no rules or laws prohibiting the doggie dining and that, as in their other locations, they were good to go in accordance with Florida law.

Patty55 06-19-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 895650)
There was Doggie Dining at the new location for a few weeks until management determined that Wildwood needed to write a town regulation approving or disapproving dogs dining on outdoor patios.

Typical of the way our brilliant government works: Such a activity is legal in Florida provided that the local government does not have a law against it. Even though Wildwood DID NOT have a law against it, since they did not have one FOR , the doggie dining was illegal.

REALLY ASS BACKWARDS! I guess in our New World Order, everything is illegal unless a law is written allowing it. Now I am really worried. I just checked and there is no law specifically allowing breathing in a public place!

And people wonder why we have no decent restaurants here, just the usual fast food swill. Apparently TV is the only location in the chain that has issues with this, what does that say?

IMO, anyone even entertaining the idea of opening a business here should think long and hard.

As long as I'm on a rant let throw in that I hate Brownwood, it looks like the inside of a cheap steakhouse,(but then again I would probably hate the first Brownwood too-LOL).

Bonny 06-19-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatherer47 (Post 895577)
I have noticed several restaurants that don't carry relish.I do use it on my burger.And Bonny,I put mayo on my peanut butter sandwich.

Oh no, not mayo !! Marshmallow fluff with peanut butter. LOL :D

CFrance 06-19-2014 09:38 PM

Well, it's too hot for dogs to be outside anyway right now, so maybe by the time it cools down a bit, Wildwood will have decided to pass the bill. In the meantime, we could write to them about what the law says and encourage it.

Maybe someone could pass along the Florida law laid out by Indy.

KeepingItReal 06-20-2014 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 895672)
Barry, I have talked to corporate and they were told to stop the doggie dining by Wildwood until Wildwood established a permit structure. Square1 lawyers had already researched and found that there were no rules or laws prohibiting the doggie dining and that, as in their other locations, they were good to go in accordance with Florida law.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 863198)
I am confident that your information is flawed and that your source is mistaken. I contacted the Director of Communication and Special Projects regarding this question and I have attached his reply below:

[B][I]Hi Steven,

Thank you for writing.

I did extensive research into the dog permit issue prior to opening to be sure we would be in compliance with any local ordinances. After going through the state of Florida, Sumter County, and the City of Wildwood ordinances, and also having phone conversations with representatives of each (some more than once) the final determination was that there isn't any official certificate that can be obtained.

The state of Florida leaves it to each local government to decide whether they will require any kind of permit. Neither the City of Wildwood or Sumter County require one.

There is a requirement to post the health, safety, and general welfare rules so patrons can read them (I made a large 11"x17" sign that should be on display on the patio), but that is the only requirement.

I'm including a link to the Sumter County Code of Ordinances that directly addresses the issue of dogs in public food establishments. There is a lot of information in there, but what we discovered in all of my conversations with the city and the county is that at the very end of the ordinance (section d) the requirements for a permit expired in July of 2009.

http://library.municode.com/HTML/120...DOWIOUPOPUFOES

I appreciate your interest in standing up for the dogs, we think it's a great thing for people to be able to bring them out with them—now if I could only bring my cats . . . !

Have a good afternoon and please let me know if you have any other questions.

Jarrod


Jarrod Dyer
Director of Communication
and Special Projects
Square 1 Burgers & Bar


With the recent developments it seems like it was Mr Dyers information that was flawed and his source mistaken....... :jester:

BarryRX 06-20-2014 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 895672)
Barry, I have talked to corporate and they were told to stop the doggie dining by Wildwood until Wildwood established a permit structure. Square1 lawyers had already researched and found that there were no rules or laws prohibiting the doggie dining and that, as in their other locations, they were good to go in accordance with Florida law.

Sorry Steve, I stand corrected.

mulligan 06-20-2014 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 895760)
With the recent developments it seems like it was Mr Dyers information that was flawed and his source mistaken....... :jester:

Sounds to me like the Wildwood city council have enough sense to leave the dog at home when dining out. I love dogs, but I don't see any reason to force them on other people at restaurants, the squares, or neighborhood parties. Some people just don't like them, or are allergic, or are afraid of them. Leave them at home. They are way too low on the food chain to be pampered at public gatherings.

Indydealmaker 06-20-2014 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 895777)
Sorry Steve, I stand corrected.

Well, Barry, as often as I am wrong, it also appears that somebody at Square1, although they did their due diligence, was wrong not to predict the backward logic of the town of Wildwood.

Who would have thought that in absence of a "local permit requirement", it would be against the law to do something that has been deemed legal on a statewide basis.

After all, the state law did not demand that local authorities have a permit requirement, only that by having one the dogs could be banned if they desired. Who knows? I don't even have a dog, but I like red meat, so all is good.

meddicjr 06-20-2014 12:44 PM

I agree with you. My husband and I have eaten there often and think it is great.

Jayhawk 06-24-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 895789)
Sounds to me like the Wildwood city council have enough sense to leave the dog at home when dining out. I love dogs, but I don't see any reason to force them on other people at restaurants, the squares, or neighborhood parties. Some people just don't like them, or are allergic, or are afraid of them. Leave them at home. They are way too low on the food chain to be pampered at public gatherings.

Actually, the Wildwood Council APPROVED the request.

See villages news .com for details.

:BigApplause:


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