Firemen & EMT's
 

How many know and care that The Villages allegedly pay their Fireman and EMT's about 20% LESS than the area's around us. That is why we have a higher turn over of these very valuable skills. I just found out today and was surprisd. When we have needed them for any reason (e.g. replace smoke detectors etc.) they have been proompt and courteous and make you proud they are our firemen or EMT's. I doubt this note will do anything to help them get up to the local standards but at least it brings the terrible treatment to the attention of all readers. Be sure to say thanks when you see them as the least we can give them is appreciation for all that they do and for less rewards than others. :ohdear:

What does allegedly mean?

Can you PROVE this????

What are the salaries of firefighters and EMTs in The Villages? What are the salaries for the same positions in Lady Lake and Wildwood?

The below information says the average salary of a fire fighter in Florida is $28,000.


Sumter County, FL - Official Website http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Firef...l-Florida.html


http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=Fire...ake+County,+FL


http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Firef...l-Florida.html

Source of the following information:
Firefighter EMT Paramedic Salary in The Villages, FL | Indeed.com

Average Firefighter EMT Paramedic Salary

The Villages $67,000
Ocala 70,000
Leesburg 60,000
Lady Lake 65,000
Wildwood 66,000

Just the average doesn't consider staffing levels or seniority.
A simple Google search will point out the the 20% is bogus.

Are our firefighter's & EMT's underpaid? Your damn right if they are picking me up off my death bed!

I can't imagine doing their job for $28K. The services they provide are far too valuable and the risks far too high for such a paltry amount. Firefighters and EMTs deserve to earn far, far more and we should all be grateful that they are so dedicated.

As to TV first responders earning less than counterparts, I can't say I've heard this before but it doesn't particularly surprise me. Like many other positions here, the benefits (mainly the Charter School) outweigh the lower salary for so many TV employees. Can't say that is the right thing, but it does seem to be THE thing.

I recently spoke to a Firefighter/EMT who told me that he loves working in TV but will be leaving since the pay is much lower than other areas and their pension is miserable. He said there is a big turnover because of this. I found this disturbing since he was a very impressive young man with a great deal of experience. I believe the pension being offered is far below other areas.

Is this just a guess or do you have some data to support your statement?

HEY....you guys are getting to be like a certain poster who only reads the first post. I think Bogie provided us with the answer above.




Florida's average firefighter pay is $28K And The Villages average firefighter pay is $67K

its no different than the corporate world. some companys pay more than others for the same work. the only place where everyone is the same is in the communist world. so whars your point?

Where we came from, the Rescue Squads were all volunteer for many years. My wife and I were both Cardiac-EMT's and ran calls for $0.00. Talk equal pay for equal work!!

The last job posting I saw for a Villages Firefighter position listed a starting salary in the $39,000 per year range but I do not remember if the medical requirement was for an EMT or Paramedic. Overtime surely could bring that figure higher.

I do recall Janet Tutt mentioning, I think earlier this year, that a study was being done to look at pay differences of all district employees due to the high turnover ratio.

A simple vote to be represented by a strong union could correct that right now.

I live right beside 2 of The Villages Firemen. I have never heard them say anything about it. I know they are very hard working and have been on the Fire Dept for awhile now. Seem like they are happy, but we do not talk about how much they make and stuff like that.

I am sure with most Public Service Jobs they are underpaid for what they could face in a fire.

As with a very good friend of mine that works for the Florida Highway Patrol. I know he is underpaid, I know what he makes and I would not do that job for that,. He loves law enforcement and helping people, so he puts up with it. It was his lifes dream. The only way he makes good money is to work overtime or do special details like escorting trucks and events on his time. They get paid good to do that.
But I would question someone voicing that out to just anyone,, you have not clue what is real or maybe lets say stretched somewhat....

Just a thought. :coolsmiley:

If you use the link that provided the $28K for FL firefighters, it shows that The Villages average for firefighters is $30K.

The $67K average for FL is not just for firefighters. It is also includes EMT and paramedics.

One explanation for the low average for firefighters would be if there are a number of part time firefighters. Their annual salaries would obviously bring down the average.

----Just trying to live up to my title as "Average Guy."

My son in-law works as a ff/medic in Polk County. He told me that he gets 49k as a base salary and he has been with them for 10 years. I read that report on Indeed.com and further down it states the same pay. 49k. All firefighters in The Villages have to become EMTs at a minimum. So their starting pay will be less than the 49k. But that seems to be about the norm in the county and small dept pay scale. Large cities like Orlando or Miami or Tampa probably pay more.

My guess regarding pensions is that a FF/EMT with TV receives TV retirement plan. It pales in comparison to the state pension fund for FF, teachers or other public employees. This is the same reason many teachers work for TV for a period of time but then return to the state plan.

And yes, I know for a FACT that TV 401K is week comparatively. Spouse has TV, I have state.

Like many other positions here, the benefits (mainly the Charter School) outweigh the lower salary for so many TV employees. Can't say that is the right thing, but it does seem to be THE thing.[/QUOTE]

Have been through the negotiation process with them, you 100% accurate on this point. They will make the statement that "we pay a competitive salary with surrounding areas when you consider our "benefits" not found elsewhere. Not saying it's good or bad, but if a parent's focus is only on the school, they have less to bargain with....

Only job I know of that pays a guy while he sleeps...

ER doctors in small hospitals. add that to your list.

Marion County having same problem
 

Where is the smiley face? Or are you being serious?

There's your answer:

Firefighter/EMT

VILLAGES PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
3035 MORSE BOULEVARD
THE VILLAGES, FLORIDA 32163

Updated: March 20, 2014

Classification: Firefighter/EMT

Villages Public Safety Department is currently hiring for Firefighter/EMT. National Testing Network (NTN) FireTEAM and a valid CPAT are required for this position. All testing must be completed by April 14, 2014.

Salary Information: $30,900

So this is low comparatively, especially without the state retirement.

Have not needed the services of either, but my impression is both groups are great. The firemen did an amazing job on the Pinellas' fire. My hat is off to both groups.

Well, against my better judgement, I will post. I should bite my tongue, but sometimes I find it hard to.

In my previous life, I was a carrier firefighter/medic/EMS Instructor in New York State. (IAFF Union Local 896).

I loved my job. I think I was paid well, but there were days where I earned my whole pay in 5 minutes. I did and saw things most could not or would not do. I've pulled folks out of burning buildings, cut people out of unrecognizable vehicles, pushed drugs and IV's into people trying to keep them alive, etc,etc.

I loved my job. I worked crazy hours, holidays, etc. Missed birthday parties, etc.....no complaints, as it was the career I chose and I knew the deal.

Yes, I slept at night.....sometimes. There were also nights when I did not, going to one call after another. When a firefighter sleeps, it is always a light sleep. You go from pillow to turnouts in less then a minute, and out the door driving to a fire in less then a minute. You instantly know the address, where it is and the best way to get there. Where to park the rig, where the hydrants are, etc,etc.

It was a great job, as no two days were the same.

So..now I'm retired with a good firefighter pension. I move to Florida. I find out my taxes and cost of living are much less down here. I also meet the local firefighter's and medics. I see many of them are Paramedics. Good. I see they make way less then I did. Sad.

I see my taxes are way less then they were in NY. I guess that is good.....but I'm also smart enough to know that as I get older, my chances of needing a good Paramedic/EMS crew goes up significantly.

So......I think I will support the firefighters and the EMS service and law enforcement.....I KNOW I'll need them some day, and I want them to earn a good living wage. If my taxes need to go up to do that....it's fine with me.

As to the volunteer comment, I support and respect volunteers. I taught hundreds of them and made them EMT's, etc. The fact of the matter is that there is no "free lunch". With the huge population here and the volume of calls, you NEED a paid department. Be careful what you wish for.

The way I see it, a good fire and EMS department is more important then a lot of places money goes down here.....many times the folks who complain about these essential services always seem to find money for going out to that fancy restaurant, greens fees, that new driver, etc, etc. Where are the priorities?

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I know I should stick to answering home inspection questions. I hope I did not offend anyone. When looking at the current state of the world, we are all very blessed.

Respectfully, Frank

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I trust Bogie's post. He is a good researcher.
Firefighter EMT Paramedic Salary in The Villages, FL

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$67,000 http://www.indeed.com/images/salary/bar_high.gif

Average Firefighter EMT Paramedic salaries for job postings in The Villages, FL are 1% higher than average Firefighter EMT Paramedic salaries for job postings nationwide.

Frank, exactly what would you like me to know, in a nutshell?

Mr. Frank

#1. Thank you for not biting your tongue. [it saved a 911 call ;-) ]

#2. Thank you for your service to our society.

#3. Thank you for selecting TV........I am honored you are here and hope to meet you some day.

#4. Thank you for your post.

#5. Like teachers, we owe these Teams our respect and support.

Thank you Mr. F.

:bigbow:

Thank you for being a good person at your last job and always. I too honor you for your service and for being the decent, ethical and hard working person you are. Thank you for all the good you did, the risks you took and for the dedication that goes far beyond any pay can compensate.

I thought he said it quite well.

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Firefighter EMT Paramedic Salary in The Villages, FL

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You seriously accept a post from Indeed as opposed to the actual job listing by the TV????
VILLAGES PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
3035 MORSE BOULEVARD
THE VILLAGES, FLORIDA 32163

Updated: March 20, 2014

Classification: Firefighter/EMT

Villages Public Safety Department is currently hiring for Firefighter/EMT. National Testing Network (NTN) FireTEAM and a valid CPAT are required for this position. All testing must be completed by April 14, 2014.

Salary Information: $30,900
But hey, choose your sources...............

Well, in a nutshell, I think that those who risk their lives to serve others are entitled to a living wage. When you consider the amount of knowledge those in EMS and Fire need and the stress they must make snap decisions in they deserve more. I know that a 55+ community throws a wrench in my next statement, but in the real world, I think there are benefits when firefighters and cops, etc, can afford to be your neighbors and their kids go to the same schools as your kids do.

As many here know, I want to be totally honest....I am in The Villages everyday working, but when I bought down here I did not know about TV, and bought my home just south of you good people in another 55+ community....so while I work everyday here and really love The Villages, I do not want anyone to think I live here when I actually do not.....It just seems like I do because I am here more then I am home lately....lol.

I hope my last post did not sound unfriendly....it's just that I served in a community where many folks worked hard to "cut that department",etc, always saying "those guys make too much", etc......but we all came into the world naked and choose our paths. Some were jealous of my job, but they too could have taken the test, gone through the fire academy, took the training, etc....and they never saw the parts of the job that were somewhat difficult.

Respectfully, Frank

Thank you, Frank. And bless people like you.:bigbow::bigbow:

Dude , you owe no one an explanation or apology. You deserve all that you have earned and much more....

Here is yet another salary .


Villages Public Safety Dept. is Hiring – FF/Paramedic

Posted on March 31, 2014 by Lake Tech Staff



VILLAGES PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
3035 MORSE BOULEVARD
THE VILLAGES, FLORIDA 32163
VCDD Public Safety
Updated: March 20, 2014
Classification: Firefighter/Paramedic
Villages Public Safety Department is currently hiring for Firefighter/Paramedic. National Testing Network (NTN) FireTEAM and a valid CPAT are required for this position. All testing must be completed by April 14, 2014.
Salary Information: $42,653.14
Department Information: Established in 1999, The Villages Public Safety Department (VPSD) is an internationally accredited fire department that challenges the norms and standards within the emergency services community. In our short fourteen year history, we have grown from one fire station with nine firefighters and one fire chief to seven fire stations with eighty-one operations personnel and twelve administrative staff. Villages Public Safety Department protects 36 square miles with a population of approximately 100,000. Our department responds to over 14,000 requests for service annually, with the call types mirroring most fire departments in the United States.
City Information: The Villages is the largest single-site planned retirement community in the United States (at least 80% age 55 and over), spanning over 26,000 acres in three adjoining counties in Central Florida. An hour north of Orlando, The Villages is planned to be home to 2.7 million square feet of commercial buildings and retail tenants. “A” rated charter high school, middle school, and elementary school are provided services by VPSD and the children of VPSD personnel may attend these schools.
The Villages is currently home to approximately 100,000 residents with a projected build out of more than 109,444 by 2017. Over 15,000 people work in The Villages, or for businesses in the thriving community, which has its own newspaper, radio station and television station. Residents living in The Villages have an average income that is almost double the U.S. average and are dedicated to supporting business and community growth.
Population: Approximately 100,000
Job Requirements

• Age: 18
• US Citizen: Yes
• High School Grad/GED: Yes
• Valid FLORIDA State Driver’s License: Yes
• Ability to Read/Speak English: Yes
• Vision: Per NFPA 1582

Academy Certification:

• EVOC (Emergency Vehicle Operation Course) 16-hour certificate
• CPR Certification
• AIDS/HIV (4 hours) training certificate
• ACLS or C4 Certification
• State of Florida Firefighter II Certification
• State of Florida Paramedic Certification
• Successful completion of National Testing Network FireTeam Testing and CPAT
• FFP1301 Fire Service Hydraulics certification*
• FFP1302 Fire Apparatus Operations certification*

*Preference will be given to applicants who have these certifications. Firefighters hired without these certifications must obtain them within one year of the date of hire.
Prior Experience: Qualifying on pre-employment requirements will include clinical knowledge and skills evaluation; oral review panel; acceptable driving record; drug screening and medical examination; tobacco certification; and background reference checks. Candidates must not have any disqualifiers (see below) in background. Work schedule will include evenings, weekends and holidays; rotating shifts.
Probationary Period – 1 Year

• Able to successfully complete orientation and probationary performance requirements as conducted by the Department
• Able to meet and maintain Department requirements of health, physical and mental condition
• Probationary firefighters who self terminate employment with the District will be required to reimburse the District up to $4,000 of the costs incurred in the employment process

Please direct all questions to NTN Customer Support. Do NOT call the department directly. Do NOT fill out the District application. Candidates moving onto the second hiring phase will be invited to fill out the District application at that time. Candidates must fill out the NTN application as part of the testing process. If you have been a Villages Public Safety Department volunteer for at least one year, please add this to the certifications section of the NTN application.
To apply and schedule pre-employment testing (FireTEAM), go to http://www.nationaltestingnetwork.com and click on FIREFIGHTER JOBS. Select the department and read over all the requirements and if qualified, select a testing location and a time and date for testing on the website calendar. A CPAT can also be scheduled through the website by clicking on the CPAT icon on the main page of the website and then following the instructions. For questions concerning the testing process, please contact NTN Customer Support at 866-563-3882. For updates and new job announcements, “Like” National Testing Network on Facebook.



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How much did they make on their calendar, "Firefighters of the Viilages"?

Let me make clear my comment about the nutshell was to bring more on from Frank....Frank is a favorite person of mine who did a great inspection, and in that short time impressed me as a person of fabulous integrity.

I wanted to know if there was still some tongue biting going on...and maybe some ideas for the public how to support our Public Safety personnel.

Oh...thank you Kitty for the kind words. That is what I love about my business....I get to meet the most wonderful folks here in The Villages! So many of you are so wonderful, I wish I had many of you as neighbors!

I used to tell folks if they really want to help their local fire department, please don't bury the hydrant in front of their house with snow....keep it shoveled and clear. I guess that advice is not very helpful down here!

Keeping a list of your Meds in an east place to find, like the refrigerator door.

Keeping your house decluttered so crews can get to you and get a guerney into your house easily.

Learn CPR..it's easier then ever now.

Pull over to the right when you see lights and sirens coming. If you don't know what to do, just stop. They will go around you.

Keep your home fire-safe...especially the garage.

If you see then in a supermarket, let them butt ahead in the checkout...they are on duty and the faster they eat the less chance of them being interrupted on a call....

That's all I can think of right now...but it is early and I have not had any coffee yet.

Well, off to The Villages to another inspection! Have a wonderful day folks!

Respectfully, Frank