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BigGuy 07-08-2014 03:39 PM

Gate Keepers....safe entry
 
This is an on going problem that needs to be addressed again.
Went through resident gate when a truck in visitor lane stepped on it and nearly clipped me.
Why aren't the gate attendants holding the visitor lane up until the all resident lane traffic has gone through. Whoever is in that lane should not be a resident and have to wait until all residents waiting to go through pass safely.
This will also stop residents going in visitor lane trying to beat the resident line.
It's very frustrating being third one in line and having commercial truck or a resident car come along in visitor lane and go ahead everyone.
The attendants are very polite and friendly but need make it a little safer at these entry gates.

red tail 07-08-2014 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigGuy (Post 904466)
This is an on going problem that needs to be addressed again.
Went through resident gate when a truck in visitor lane stepped on it and nearly clipped me.
Why aren't the gate attendants holding the visitor lane up until the all resident lane traffic has gone through. Whoever is in that lane should not be a resident and have to wait until all residents waiting to go through pass safely.
This will also stop residents going in visitor lane trying to beat the resident line.
It's very frustrating being third one in line and having commercial truck or a resident car come along in visitor lane and go ahead everyone.
The attendants are very polite and friendly but need make it a little safer at these entry gates.

these are public roads...residents don't get first choice.

Miles42 07-08-2014 03:50 PM

Well that solves that.

Bogie Shooter 07-08-2014 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigGuy (Post 904466)
This is an on going problem that needs to be addressed again.
Went through resident gate when a truck in visitor lane stepped on it and nearly clipped me.
Why aren't the gate attendants holding the visitor lane up until the all resident lane traffic has gone through. Whoever is in that lane should not be a resident and have to wait until all residents waiting to go through pass safely.
This will also stop residents going in visitor lane trying to beat the resident line.
It's very frustrating being third one in line and having commercial truck or a resident car come along in visitor lane and go ahead everyone.
The attendants are very polite and friendly but need make it a little safer at these entry gates.

If you are really concerned, calling Community Watch will get more action than posting on here......................
Contact Us


Community Watch
1135 Bonita Boulevard
The Villages, FL 32162

Phone: 352-753-0550

dewilson58 07-08-2014 03:54 PM

I only got two pickles on my cheeseburger

dirtbanker 07-08-2014 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red tail (Post 904467)
these are public roads...residents don't get first choice.

Yeah! I prefer to use the visitor lane, and when the gate attendant holds out the stop sign; I laugh and yell as I go by "That is not a legal stop sign for this public road"!:jester:

Phanatic Luvr 07-08-2014 03:57 PM

Have you seen it printed anywhere that residents get to go first? And if so, where? Like the other poster posted, all of our roads are public roadways. I would think, each would take turns and the gate keepers can control the staggering of vehicles.

Shimpy 07-08-2014 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtbanker (Post 904476)
Yeah! I prefer to use the visitor lane, and when the gate attendant holds out the stop sign; I laugh and yell as I go by "That is not a legal stop sign for this public road"!:jester:

SO.....Then you run thru the closed gate?

BobnBev 07-08-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 904475)
I only got two pickles on my cheeseburger

Lucky you, I got 2 pickles and NO cheeseburger.:rant-rave::swear::shrug:

OpusX1 07-08-2014 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigGuy (Post 904466)
This is an on going problem that needs to be addressed again.
Went through resident gate when a truck in visitor lane stepped on it and nearly clipped me.
Why aren't the gate attendants holding the visitor lane up until the all resident lane traffic has gone through. Whoever is in that lane should not be a resident and have to wait until all residents waiting to go through pass safely.
This will also stop residents going in visitor lane trying to beat the resident line.
It's very frustrating being third one in line and having commercial truck or a resident car come along in visitor lane and go ahead everyone.
The attendants are very polite and friendly but need make it a little safer at these entry gates.


Wow:confused:

Bogie Shooter 07-08-2014 04:14 PM

So much whining over two pickles.:swear:

dewilson58 07-08-2014 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 904483)
Lucky you, I got 2 pickles and NO cheeseburger.:rant-rave::swear::shrug:

But you got served faster than I.

:swear:

dirtbanker 07-08-2014 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 904478)
SO.....Then you run thru the closed gate?

Nah, not that crazy...

I was joking, but most of the times I roll up they don't have the gate down (probable due to a few cars waiting in line already, to get in) the gate keeper has a little hand stop sign that he waves at you while giving you a stern look, once you stop he waves you thru...NO, he does not care who you are, or how many crowbars you (or your passengers) are holding...

pooh 07-08-2014 04:27 PM

Well, if you hold up the visitors lane, how soon do you think traffic will be backed up in the roundabouts and then no one moves?

There are times when I use the visitors gate....saves some wear and tear on the driver's side window motor.

The gates are there to help control the flow of traffic and let golf carts cross in relative safety. Yes, there are some who "gun it" when going through the visitors side. It's up to us to stay safe and let those who feel they need to get out there first, go so no one is hurt. Some are just less mature than others. We'll be delayed by only one car...;)

Deseylou 07-08-2014 04:36 PM

Treat it like a 2 way stop
Take turns, be nice
Debbie

marlinguy 07-08-2014 04:40 PM

Whats the name of the guy on 1st base? No Who's on 1st. Ok, who's on 1st? That's Right. Who's on 1st? Yes.,,,yada yada,,,:a20::a20:

Polar Bear 07-08-2014 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phanatic Luvr (Post 904477)
...all of our roads are public roadway...take turns and the gate keepers can control the staggering of vehicles.

Yep.

big guy 07-08-2014 05:10 PM

Let's see, it's pouring rain. Should I (1) drive up to the resident gate, roll the window down and flash my card key while getting soaked or should I (2) drive up to the visitor gate, stay dry, save the motor on my window, and save a little on gas by not standing in line. No contest! The last time I looked there was nothing that said "visitors only, absolutely no residents".

Barefoot 07-08-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigGuy (Post 904466)
This is an on going problem that needs to be addressed again.
Why aren't the gate attendants holding the visitor lane up until the all resident lane traffic has gone through. Whoever is in that lane should not be a resident and have to wait until all residents waiting to go through pass safely.

I don't agree this is a problem that needs to be addressed again. :ohdear:
These are public roads.
Take turns.

Barefoot 07-08-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 904475)
I only got two pickles on my cheeseburger

I think you've started a new TOTV saying. :bigbow:
Like "Boy Howdy", it works in a lot of different situations. :girlneener:

tommy steam 07-08-2014 07:48 PM

I think the gate keepers do a good job.

Bonanza 07-08-2014 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 904517)
I don't agree this is a problem that needs to be addressed again. :ohdear:
These are public roads.
Take turns.

You hit the nail on the head, Bare . . . Our roads are public.

Get rid of the gates.
Get rid of the Keystone Cops.
Make the entrances filter into one lane.

There are many bonuses to doing these things:

We will be saving well over $1,000,000 a year in salaries,
maintenance of the gates and houses, electric, water, etc.

Bottom line -- the gates are a joke. We are not a private community and they're a waste!


DonH57 07-08-2014 08:38 PM

Ha Ha. I got three pickle slices on my cheeseburger.

Bogie Shooter 07-08-2014 08:38 PM

Things are fine the way they are.

SouthOfTheBorder 07-08-2014 08:41 PM

In spite of all the supercilious answers …..

I understand the op's question and frequently experience vehicles coming up (sometimes unexpected) on my left after starting through the residents gate. Often there are backups at the visitor's gate and visiter lane vehicles will "hit the gas" in an effort to get going, not realizing another vehicle may be merging from the right lane. There are NO signs indicating merging lanes when entering some gates that become single lane. So, why do the gate attendants open the visitor's gate when the other gate has a vehicle already started to pass through? When you enter TV using the residents gate and there is a vehicle(s) in the visitor lane, how soon should you expect that vehicle to clear the gate and be next to you?

As a result, when entering gates, we have become sensitive to the potential situation but that doesn't change the bigger safety issue.

Doesn't that seem like a reasonable and valid question?

This IS NOT a "residents have priority" issue. And we know these are PUBLIC roads. And this thread has nothing to do with FOOD. And it is not a PUT DOWN to gate attendants. And we know we can SEND an email to…..

However, since many of the TOTV contributors pride themselves on their earned knowledge about TV, some of us start here to first ask our questions.

Is that so wrong?

I would also like to ask (and paraphrase intent of) the OP's question again….anyone know why the gate attendants are not trained to open the visitor gate (the only one they easily control) in such a way that two vehicles are not simultaneously (and for those in the right lane unexpected of a vehicle coming up from the left side) being forced into a single traffic lane?

Don

Bogie Shooter 07-08-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthOfTheBorder (Post 904611)
In spite of all the supercilious answers …..

I understand the op's question and frequently experience vehicles coming up (sometimes unexpected) on my left after starting through the residents gate. Often there are backups at the visitor's gate and visiter lane vehicles will "hit the gas" in an effort to get going, not realizing another vehicle may be merging from the right lane. There are NO signs indicating merging lanes when entering some gates that become single lane. So, why do the gate attendants open the visitor's gate when the other gate has a vehicle already started to pass through? When you enter TV using the residents gate and there is a vehicle(s) in the visitor lane, how soon should you expect that vehicle to clear the gate and be next to you?

As a result, when entering gates, we have become sensitive to the potential situation but that doesn't change the bigger safety issue.

Doesn't that seem like a reasonable and valid question?

This IS NOT a "residents have priority" issue. And we know these are PUBLIC roads. And this thread has nothing to do with FOOD. And it is not a PUT DOWN to gate attendants. And we know we can SEND an email to…..

However, since many of the TOTV contributors pride themselves on their earned knowledge about TV, some of us start here to first ask our questions.

Is that so wrong?

I would also like to ask (and paraphrase intent of) the OP's question again….anyone know why the gate attendants are not trained to open the visitor gate (the only one they easily control) in such a way that two vehicles are not simultaneously (and for those in the right lane unexpected of a vehicle coming up from the left side) being forced into a single traffic lane?

Don

And I ask who better to answer that question than the folks running Community Watch?
How would any poster on TOTV have the real answer?

graciegirl 07-08-2014 08:51 PM

The cheeseburgers here always have exactly the right amount of pickles for me. I like the way they are served. And I am really a fan of the servers.

pooh 07-08-2014 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 904605)
You hit the nail on the head, Bare . . . Our roads are public.

Get rid of the gates.
Get rid of the Keystone Cops.
Make the entrances filter into one lane.

There are many bonuses to doing these things:

We will be saving well over $1,000,000 a year in salaries,
maintenance of the gates and houses, electric, water, etc.

Bottom line -- the gates are a joke. We are not a private community and they're a waste!



Getting rid of the gates might just also "get rid" of some of those pesky Villagers riding around in golf carts. The gates slow down the cars entering various villages....gives the cart drivers a chance to cross the road.

SouthOfTheBorder 07-08-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 904613)
And I ask who better to answer that question than the folks running Community Watch?
How would any poster on TOTV have the real answer?


I understand your suggestion to contact community watch.

However, past lack of "real answers" has not diminished TOTV as a good source for starting to look for possible explanations has it?

We ask questions here just like we would in a social setting face to face.

This thread just seemed to go "over the top" with it's dismissal of a valid question that happen to also be on my mind.

I am hoping that there may be some insight/experience into this question in TOTV land and would hate to see it get squashed.

Thanks for your suggestion. :thumbup:

Don

DougB 07-08-2014 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 904607)
Ha Ha. I got three pickle slices on my cheeseburger.

Your pickle burger had cheese?

Barefoot 07-08-2014 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthOfTheBorder (Post 904611)
In spite of all the supercilious answers ….. Snipped .....
anyone know why the gate attendants are not trained to open the visitor gate in such a way that two vehicles are not simultaneously being forced into a single traffic lane?

I'm sorry you find the responses supercilious.
Since the roads are public, why should residents receive preferential treatment?
Taking turns seems to be a workable concept.

BigGuy 07-09-2014 02:07 AM

This was a safety issue never preferential treatment. A suggestion was made since there are two designated lanes. Before you know it we're talking pickles.
Maybe I'm old school....."be polite and wait your turn".

MikeV 07-09-2014 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthOfTheBorder (Post 904611)
In spite of all the supercilious answers …..

I understand the op's question and frequently experience vehicles coming up (sometimes unexpected) on my left after starting through the residents gate. Often there are backups at the visitor's gate and visiter lane vehicles will "hit the gas" in an effort to get going, not realizing another vehicle may be merging from the right lane. There are NO signs indicating merging lanes when entering some gates that become single lane. So, why do the gate attendants open the visitor's gate when the other gate has a vehicle already started to pass through? When you enter TV using the residents gate and there is a vehicle(s) in the visitor lane, how soon should you expect that vehicle to clear the gate and be next to you?

As a result, when entering gates, we have become sensitive to the potential situation but that doesn't change the bigger safety issue.

Doesn't that seem like a reasonable and valid question?

This IS NOT a "residents have priority" issue. And we know these are PUBLIC roads. And this thread has nothing to do with FOOD. And it is not a PUT DOWN to gate attendants. And we know we can SEND an email to…..

However, since many of the TOTV contributors pride themselves on their earned knowledge about TV, some of us start here to first ask our questions.

Is that so wrong?

I would also like to ask (and paraphrase intent of) the OP's question again….anyone know why the gate attendants are not trained to open the visitor gate (the only one they easily control) in such a way that two vehicles are not simultaneously (and for those in the right lane unexpected of a vehicle coming up from the left side) being forced into a single traffic lane?

Don


I was gonna say all that. :bowdown:

kittygilchrist 07-09-2014 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigGuy (Post 904466)
This is an on going problem that needs to be addressed again.
Went through resident gate when a truck in visitor lane stepped on it and nearly clipped me.
Why aren't the gate attendants holding the visitor lane up until the all resident lane traffic has gone through. Whoever is in that lane should not be a resident and have to wait until all residents waiting to go through pass safely.
This will also stop residents going in visitor lane trying to beat the resident line.
It's very frustrating being third one in line and having commercial truck or a resident car come along in visitor lane and go ahead everyone.
The attendants are very polite and friendly but need make it a little safer at these entry gates.


After stopping at the gate, both lanes are merging. When merging, the lane that is straighter and on the left usually has the right-of-way. That would be the visitor gate.

I prefer going through the visitor gate for several reasons. It is faster even when no one is waiting in line, especially faster when residents are waiting in line, and much safer when exiting a traffic circle because it is the inside lane away from incoming traffic.

It would be a mistake for me to go through a gate assuming that I should be first, regardless of which gate I have entered. The status of my being a resident means nothing as to traffic law and visitors should expect equal status, which is their right.

graciegirl 07-09-2014 06:11 AM

Be very careful. Watch all around you. If you are entering at the same time, pause long enough so the other car can go ahead of you and the one behind you can honk.

Bogie Shooter 07-09-2014 06:39 AM

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Steve9930 07-09-2014 10:21 AM

Be aware, be polite, exercise caution, Just normal rules that enhance the flow of traffic. The driver of the vehicle is the ultimate person responsible for the safe operation of the vehicle. Remember while driving you can be dead right. We are all retired there is no rush.

dewilson58 07-09-2014 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 904769)
Be aware, be polite, exercise caution, Just normal rules that enhance the flow of traffic. The driver of the vehicle is the ultimate person responsible for the safe operation of the vehicle. Remember while driving you can be dead right. We are all retired there is no rush.

No Rush, unless you are late for Happy Hour.
(Still haven't figured out when Happy Hour starts)

:beer3:

DougB 07-09-2014 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 904651)
I'm sorry you find the responses supercilious.
Since the roads are public, why should residents receive preferential treatment?
Taking turns seems to be a workable concept.

Maybe he meant supersillious?

Steve9930 07-09-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 904777)
No Rush, unless you are late for Happy Hour.
(Still haven't figured out when Happy Hour starts)

:beer3:

When you get there and they take your drink order!


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