Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 914938)

Let's try this again using Albright's statement on CBS instead of my calling it "gone to hell in a handbasket"...

What do you think of current world affairs, and if you can say it without political sides taken, what can we personally do or espouse as a nation?

For new posters, you may not promote your party or bash the other party. If you do, the thread will be closed.

Originally Posted by Tennisnut (Post 914949)

This will be fun to follow. The negativity should be overwhelming otherwise there will probably not be much to be said.

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 914951)

Was that supposed to be positive?:loco:
Fun=negative?

Originally Posted by gamby (Post 914970)

Several days before Jesus was impaled, the disciples came to him and asked him about the future. They were interested in knowing about the establishment of God’s Kingdom, of which Jesus had so often spoken. They also wanted to know about “the conclusion of the system of things,” or as some translations render that expression, “the end of the world.”—Matthew 24:3, American Standard Version; King James Version.
, Jesus foretold that there would be large-scale wars, famines, pestilences, and great earthquakes. He also said that lawlessness would increase, false religious teachers would mislead many, and true Christians would be hated and persecuted. —Matthew 24:4-13; Luke 21:11.
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2 Timothy 3: 1-5

But know this, that in the last days+ critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful,
haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power;+ and from these turn
away.

Originally Posted by DougB (Post 914971)

How does this relate to 2014?

Originally Posted by gamby (Post 914970)

Several days before Jesus was impaled, the disciples came to him and asked him about the future. They were interested in knowing about the establishment of God’s Kingdom, of which Jesus had so often spoken. They also wanted to know about “the conclusion of the system of things,” or as some translations render that expression, “the end of the world.”—Matthew 24:3, American Standard Version; King James Version.
, Jesus foretold that there would be large-scale wars, famines, pestilences, and great earthquakes. He also said that lawlessness would increase, false religious teachers would mislead many, and true Christians would be hated and persecuted. —Matthew 24:4-13; Luke 21:11.
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2 Timothy 3: 1-5

But know this, that in the last days+ critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power;+ and from these turn away.

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 915017)

I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 915017)

I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 915031)

So I guess it was a "perceived affront" when 3,000 innocent civilians were murdered (in the name of a hijacked world religion) in NYC, our nation's capital, and the scorched hole in a PA field on 9/11/01, and we should have done nothing in response. (?!?!?!?!?)

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 915039)

Nope, that was not a perceived affront, but rather that was a violation of international law and the perpetrators should be tracked down and punished for it, which is exactly what we did.

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 915017)

I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 915031)

So I guess it was a "perceived affront" when 3,000 innocent civilians were murdered (in the name of a hijacked world religion) in NYC, our nation's capital, and the scorched hole in a PA field on 9/11/01, and we should have done nothing in response. (?!?!?!?!?)

Originally Posted by OBXNana (Post 914999)

I can remember my mother telling me stories of people knocking on their door during the depression, for food and a warm place to sleep. My grandmother would make them a sandwich (whatever), allow them to sleep in the barn, and tell them to pick some vegetables or fruit to take with them. In exchange, they would milk the cows or split fire wood. That day is long gone.

I cringe when I hear the problem is too big for any individual. It has to start with the individual and not depend on the government. Just a few simple things that come to mind:
When tissues are on sale, donate them to a head start program
When there's a bogo on laundry detergent, donate one to a animal rescue
When you find you don't like the case of black beans you purchased at Costco, donate
to a food bank.

Right now we're down sizing. The baby stuff we had for our grandchildren when they slept over will be going to a young couple starting out. We've asked when they are done with the items to donate to a shelter for abused woman with children. What you may see as junk, would make a tremendous difference to someone else.

The mess of the world begins with us.

Originally Posted by tucson (Post 915047)

ONLY Jesus can and will change this world...

Originally Posted by gamby (Post 914970)

Several days before Jesus was impaled, the disciples came to him and asked him about the future. They were interested in knowing about the establishment of God’s Kingdom, of which Jesus had so often spoken. They also wanted to know about “the conclusion of the system of things,” or as some translations render that expression, “the end of the world.”—Matthew 24:3, American Standard Version; King James Version.
, Jesus foretold that there would be large-scale wars, famines, pestilences, and great earthquakes. He also said that lawlessness would increase, false religious teachers would mislead many, and true Christians would be hated and persecuted. —Matthew 24:4-13; Luke 21:11.
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2 Timothy 3: 1-5

But know this, that in the last days+ critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power;+ and from these turn away.

Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 915056)

I'm thinking sometimes he needs a little help.

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 915017)

I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by tucson (Post 915062)

Patty, God knows what He is doing and what He has planned for the world. Prayer is a mighty force that can move mountains, and God will not be mocked.

Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 915101)

Y'know, all this God stuff on this thread is getting out of hand. I do believe in the power of prayer, but I believe it to be more of an internal thing.

I think sometimes God needs a helping hand, so... I believe in the USMC, the SEALS, a good education and hard work.

Originally Posted by tucson (Post 915035)

Everyone needs to read what the Lord Jesus Christ says about this issue....https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew24

Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 915101)

Y'know, all this God stuff on this thread is getting out of hand. I do believe in the power of prayer, but I believe it to be more of an internal thing.

I think sometimes God needs a helping hand, so... I believe in the USMC, the SEALS, a good education and hard work.

Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 915110)

I doubt the world is any bigger mess but two things have changed. Instant communication lets us know more and the weapons we have available can harm a lot more people.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 915108)

Me too. If you read some of the Gospels too it seems more about sincere belief in God in private rather than ostentatious pageantry in public.

Originally Posted by tucson (Post 915117)

We must preach the gospel to the whole world :-) Praise His Holy Name.

Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 915101)

Y'know, all this God stuff on this thread is getting out of hand. I do believe in the power of prayer, but I believe it to be more of an internal thing.

I think sometimes God needs a helping hand, so... I believe in the USMC, the SEALS, a good education and hard work.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 915051)

They got Osama Bib Laden who was supposedly the master mind behind this attack. I do think we should stop monsters like Bin Laden, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot,. etc with whatever means possible. The United Nations, though, should have the real force.

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 915176)

Patty, in an earlier post, you asked for the lighter side.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wneCa_yIuzg

Click above...

Me Buffett singing fruitcakes. Guaranteed to lift the mood.

Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 915159)

The reality is the primary force for peace and stability, since the end of WWII, has been American military power. You can look around and see the results of what happens when that power is withdrawn (eg Iraq). Nature abhors a vacuum and there are lots of bad actors (eg ISIL) who will fill it.

Also, given that the UN is largely a collection of 3rd world socialist or authoritarian states, giving them the "real force" is not a good idea. America would be the loser on that deal IHMO.