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eremite06 07-31-2014 11:48 AM

Drunk and Disorderly at Old Mill Playhouse
 
My wife and 5 relatives were trying to enjoy a movie last night but were bothered by two males in their 20's being loud, disruptive and drunk. My wife approached the asst. mgr. with their behavior and all the mgr could do was tell them to turn off their cell phone. This was after the mgr. agreed that they would be a problem when they entered the theater. They had containers of booze and were dropping their cans on the floor and allowing them to roll down the floor. Some other patrons mentioned they could smell the booze on them as they moved by them to change seats.

These two entered the movie after it started and left before it was over, as though they were there only to disrupt others. They were also using foul language but after my wife told the mgr. about the language she said, "Well, it is an R rated movie." But these two were talking loudly and using obnoxious profanity.

The movie was "Sex Tape." After the second time out to talk to the Mgr., my wife asked for a refund or a ticket for another movie. The mgr. at first was reluctant to offer anything and said if she gave the refund, my wife would have to leave the theater right then and asked for her ticket stub. My wife had thrown her stub away but she asked why she would have to leave and miss the movie while the punks are able to stay. Finally, the mgr. capitulated and offered a ticket for another movie but our 5 relatives got nothing.

Considering all the violence that has occurred in theaters you would hope the mgmt would be more considerate of the patrons and less so to scofflaws.

Bogie Shooter 07-31-2014 11:54 AM

A call to 911 would have solved the problem.

coolkayaker1 07-31-2014 12:00 PM

Society
 
I agree with you, e06.

The episode you describe reflects the moral decay of society in several ways.

--the actions of the young.

--the inaction of the theater manager, who feared retaliation, perhaps violently against the theater, the manager, or the patrons.

--the inability of the justice system to prevent retaliation and repeat action, thus they were not called. That is, if the youths persisted beyond the reproach of the theater manager, police could be summoned, but they are powerless, as are the courts; punishments are lenient, and there is no protection for the victims in today's society.

Sadly, the result is fewer people enjoying the public company of others, furthering the cycle of disrespect for other human beings.

I fear for our grandchildren, and their children.

mfp509 07-31-2014 12:15 PM

Unfortunately so true, coolkayaker1.

Taltarzac725 07-31-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eremite06 (Post 916417)
My wife and 5 relatives were trying to enjoy a movie last night but were bothered by two males in their 20's being loud, disruptive and drunk. My wife approached the asst. mgr. with their behavior and all the mgr could do was tell them to turn off their cell phone. This was after the mgr. agreed that they would be a problem when they entered the theater. They had containers of booze and were dropping their cans on the floor and allowing them to roll down the floor. Some other patrons mentioned they could smell the booze on them as they moved by them to change seats.

These two entered the movie after it started and left before it was over, as though they were there only to disrupt others. They were also using foul language but after my wife told the mgr. about the language she said, "Well, it is an R rated movie." But these two were talking loudly and using obnoxious profanity.

The movie was "Sex Tape." After the second time out to talk to the Mgr., my wife asked for a refund or a ticket for another movie. The mgr. at first was reluctant to offer anything and said if she gave the refund, my wife would have to leave the theater right then and asked for her ticket stub. My wife had thrown her stub away but she asked why she would have to leave and miss the movie while the punks are able to stay. Finally, the mgr. capitulated and offered a ticket for another movie but our 5 relatives got nothing.

Considering all the violence that has occurred in theaters you would hope the mgmt would be more considerate of the patrons and less so to scofflaws.

I hate to have movie experiences like this.

StarbuckSammy 07-31-2014 01:24 PM

Poor management

blyarbrough 07-31-2014 01:25 PM

How does a young person get in without a Village ID?????

buggyone 07-31-2014 01:26 PM

If the two younger people were very loud, drunk, and very disruptive, you should gave gone to the lobby and told the manager if they were not ejected that you would call 911 - and followed through on the action.

Asking for a refund AND wanting to stay is ridiculous. Either they were SO annoying that you had to leave or you stayed. You stayed and should not get anything.

You cannot eat the steak and then complain it was inedible. (Judge Judy 101)

buggyone 07-31-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blyarbrough (Post 916470)
How does a young person get in without a Village ID?????

The movies are open to anyone.

Stdole 07-31-2014 01:33 PM

Poor Management at Theatre
 
It all falls back on what is permitted now and what is perceived to and will be permitted in the future... as of the ending of this issue, these idiots
will due it again and again as long as we the public permit it to go on without action! They should be removed after a warning from management then 911 should be called and it becomes "disorderly conduct" if occurring in the presence of the Officer..

The Manager must be called to the Front Office and explain their inaction on the complaint.. and consider being replaced..

Management should have a sit down talk with the Sheriff's Dept. how future incidents will be handled.

Business will suffer if something like this is not brought under control immediately.. just look at the coverage this incident received!

Management take notice PLEASE! THESE DISORDERLY PERSONS WILL NOT KEEP THE THEATRE IN BUSINESS... I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE AS I WAS A THEATRE MANAGER.

The next step up the ladder will be taken by us the public...and customer.
This is your warning... Do not just tell us this is an "R" rated movie..
we are quite a bit older than you most likely and know lip service... save
your job and time..

dbanks50 07-31-2014 01:36 PM

We can blame a lot of people for this behavior, but good behavior starts at home. It's not the teacher, police officer, pastor, or even the theater manager's responsibility. But these people must step up and take on the parents' job, risking their own safety I might add.

I'm sure none of our parents would have tolerated this type of behavior. If we got in trouble at school, we were in trouble at home. It does not take a village, it takes parents doing their jobs.

notebook28 07-31-2014 01:59 PM

My wife And I have lived here at The Villages, for almost five years now and it is a really nice place to live. However, I too have three times experience problems with youth too. First, let me say that for some reason the Young here in florida are being taught to detest the elders and most of my neighbors agree. Second, The Villages, which are truly awesome were built in a Third World State. A state which is rated last in the United States in Health Care and Dental Care. Florida is actuarially rated worst than 90 % than SA Third World Countries, look it up. Its no secret. Just the facts. It is a FAILED STATE. If anyone is interest in great and non expensive dental or medical care, please search for MEDICAL TOURISM outside of the US. Just get REFERRALS. There are good and bad everywhere in this world.

coolkayaker1 07-31-2014 02:02 PM

Calling the police on the youths in the theater would have gotten the youths kicked out of the theater with a stern "talking to" and the reporting movie patron a set of four slashed tires on their car.

Deseylou 07-31-2014 02:03 PM

Im tired of bad behavior and rude people getting away with things because people are afraid to act.
Why should anyone follow rules, laws and just have decent behavior if there are no consequences ?
I don't know what the solution is,I just hope that I brought up my children to have better manners
Debbie

Challenger 07-31-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by notebook28 (Post 916498)
My wife And I have lived here at The Villages, for almost five years now and it is a really nice place to live. However, I too have three times experience problems with youth too. First, let me say that for some reason the Young here in florida are being taught to detest the elders and most of my neighbors agree. Second, The Villages, which are truly awesome were built in a Third World State. A state which is rated last in the United States in Health Care and Dental Care. Florida is actuarially rated worst than 90 % than SA Third World Countries, look it up. Its no secret. Just the facts. It is a FAILED STATE. If anyone is interest in great and non expensive dental or medical care, please search for MEDICAL TOURISM outside of the US. Just get REFERRALS. There are good and bad everywhere in this world.

Failed State- What is that about?

A proper critism would cite your references :22yikes:

Bogie Shooter 07-31-2014 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolkayaker1 (Post 916499)
Calling the police on the youths in the theater would have gotten the youths kicked out of the theater with a stern "talking to" and the reporting movie patron a set of four slashed tires on their car.

In one of your other posts you indicate you are future villager.
Have you visited the Villages?
The kind of violence does not happen that frequently in The villages.

NJblue 07-31-2014 03:03 PM

1) Isn't 911 supposed to be used only for emergencies?

2) My experience with the youth in this state is the opposite. Unlike their northern counterparts, we have been impressed with the manners and respect shown by the vast majority of the youth we have encountered here.

Taltarzac725 07-31-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 916532)
1) Isn't 911 supposed to be used only for emergencies?

2) My experience with the youth in this state is the opposite. Unlike their northern counterparts, we have been impressed with the manners and respect shown by the vast majority of the youth we have encountered here.

Mine too. I have found the kids in the Villages very well behaved for the most part.

And, I have been going to Villages' area movie theaters since around July 2005 and have seldom been bothered by any of the other spectators. There was an e-cigarette smoker that kind of annoyed me about 5 months back at the Old Mill Playhouse. He might have been a smoker was my thought while in the theater but I was not breathing in anything so I did not report it to the management. I was very curious though about what I had actually seen.

There are noisy eaters every once in a while but movie theaters have popcorn and candy eaters.

Once in a while a woman may be wearing way too much perfume or a man way too much cologne.

And, there are those red hat ladies if you get a flock in front of you with their hats blocking some of the screen. I just move when that happens.

rubicon 07-31-2014 03:51 PM

Interesting you can be given a ticket for sitting in your golf cart with an open container at the town square but others can walk in a theater with an open container disturb people and compliant individuals have to take all the grieve ?

Interesting

I'll wager these 20 somethings had more than alcohol in their bloodstream

Bogie Shooter 07-31-2014 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 916532)
1) Isn't 911 supposed to be used only for emergencies?

2) My experience with the youth in this state is the opposite. Unlike their northern counterparts, we have been impressed with the manners and respect shown by the vast majority of the youth we have encountered here.

Drunks raising hell in a public theater is an emergency!

graciegirl 07-31-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 916559)
Drunks raising hell in a public theater is an emergency!


We should all call the theatre and complain. Just ring the phone off the hook. I think that is just awful that two punky kids can spoil everyone else's good time.

boomerbaby 07-31-2014 06:56 PM

Drunk and disorderlt at old mill playhouse
 
My husband and I were at that show 5:10 and saw and heard it all. They were 2 rows behind us and when they walked passed us it smelled like a brewery. I thought one of them was going to fall down the stairs he was so unsteady. They came in that way and I could not believe that they let them in when they ripped their ticket they had to see the way they were and had to smell them. A month ago 2 other young guys came in and as they were going to their seat they were yelling and making a scene I was frightened and did tell the usher he thanked me but nothing was done. One guy actually fell asleep the rest of the movie. Both times it has been the old mill theatre. I thank your wife for complaining because when he came back in I was going to go out and complain if there was anymore nonsense but he must have gotten his friend and they both left and never came back. I am going to stop down there this week and ask to see the manager and make sure she is aware this has happened twice. I am also going to ask her why ushers arent coming in the movie a couple of times and actually walking up the stairs and checking the theatre out. They always do that in ny.

CFrance 07-31-2014 08:22 PM

It almost sounds like the manager was afraid to do anything about it. Or didn't want the hassle. It's not right. I agree with calling the police.

Taltarzac725 07-31-2014 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomerbaby (Post 916646)
My husband and I were at that show 5:10 and saw and heard it all. They were 2 rows behind us and when they walked passed us it smelled like a brewery. I thought one of them was going to fall down the stairs he was so unsteady. They came in that way and I could not believe that they let them in when they ripped their ticket they had to see the way they were and had to smell them. A month ago 2 other young guys came in and as they were going to their seat they were yelling and making a scene I was frightened and did tell the usher he thanked me but nothing was done. One guy actually fell asleep the rest of the movie. Both times it has been the old mill theatre. I thank your wife for complaining because when he came back in I was going to go out and complain if there was anymore nonsense but he must have gotten his friend and they both left and never came back. I am going to stop down there this week and ask to see the manager and make sure she is aware this has happened twice. I am also going to ask her why ushers arent coming in the movie a couple of times and actually walking up the stairs and checking the theatre out. They always do that in ny.

You can post your complaint on the Old Mill Playhouse Facebook page. That will make them really notice. Too bad that this happened. https://www.facebook.com/OldMillPlayhouse

Lauren Sweeny 07-31-2014 09:04 PM

Courtesy ,respect,responsibility, all were sadly lacking in the 2 young people you wrote about. Actually..... even the movie show manager did not show theses traits either! I assume there are rules for theater patrons listed somewhere. ( besides turning off your cell and no texting)
If there are such patron rules they should be posted on theater property and referred to in a complaint to the manager. If I recall, most times this post states the manager has the right to refuse or remove individuals.

Taltarzac725 07-31-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lauren Sweeny (Post 916705)
Courtesy ,respect,responsibility, all were sadly lacking in the 2 young people you wrote about. Actually..... even the movie show manager did not show theses traits either! I assume there are rules for theater patrons listed somewhere. ( besides turning off your cell and no texting)
If there are such patron rules they should be posted on theater property and referred to in a complaint to the manager. If I recall, most times this post states the manager has the right to refuse or remove individuals.


It says something on the back of the ticket stub as with this one for George Clooney's The American. I put one showing the front of Dinner for Schmucks. These are both for the Old Mill Playhouse.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ps26503db8.jpg

Count'n the days 08-01-2014 06:01 AM

A loud rude drunk at any age is obnoxious and annoying. My son and his girlfriend (in their 20's) came back from Brownwood describing an incident they had with an older guy at Las Tapas last week. Nothing to the degree described at the theater, but still an example of inappropriate behavior. The common factor being the alcohol.

graciegirl 08-01-2014 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 916691)
You can post your complaint on the Old Mill Playhouse Facebook page. That will make them really notice. Too bad that this happened. https://www.facebook.com/OldMillPlayhouse

I did. I tried to post the link to this thread but it wouldn't allow me. If we all make a stink, maybe management will get a little steam to take care of this.

Happinow 08-01-2014 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 916532)
1) Isn't 911 supposed to be used only for emergencies?

2) My experience with the youth in this state is the opposite. Unlike their northern counterparts, we have been impressed with the manners and respect shown by the vast majority of the youth we have encountered here.

There is a number to call for non emergencies. I have 352-569-1600. However, behavior such as the OP describes could have quickly escalated into an emergency. There's no telling what intoxicated people would do. The manager should have issued a verbal warning. The second time these drunks should have been thrown out. If the manager was uncomfortable doing so, the he should have called the police for assistance. If I were the OP, I would either have called the police myself after the manager failed to or I would have asked for a refund and gone outside to search for a policeman myself. I believe the police have a station right there near the theater. This kind of behavior should not be tolerated. And to think one of these two drunks were probably operating a vehicle!

CFrance 08-01-2014 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 916782)
There is a number to call for non emergencies. I have 352-569-1600. However, behavior such as the OP describes could have quickly escalated into an emergency. There's no telling what intoxicated people would do. The manager should have issued a verbal warning. The second time these drunks should have been thrown out. If the manager was uncomfortable doing so, the he should have called the police for assistance. If I were the OP, I would either have called the police myself after the manager failed to or I would have asked for a refund and gone outside to search for a policeman myself. I believe the police have a station right there near the theater. This kind of behavior should not be tolerated. And to think one of these two drunks were probably operating a vehicle!

I agree with you about calling 911. I had relatives in Pittsburgh who were police officers, and they were dispatched to drunk and disorderlies all the time. It was not considered inappropriate to call 911 for that.

And it very well could have escalated.

Taltarzac725 08-01-2014 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 916782)
There is a number to call for non emergencies. I have 352-569-1600. However, behavior such as the OP describes could have quickly escalated into an emergency. There's no telling what intoxicated people would do. The manager should have issued a verbal warning. The second time these drunks should have been thrown out. If the manager was uncomfortable doing so, the he should have called the police for assistance. If I were the OP, I would either have called the police myself after the manager failed to or I would have asked for a refund and gone outside to search for a policeman myself. I believe the police have a station right there near the theater. This kind of behavior should not be tolerated. And to think one of these two drunks were probably operating a vehicle!

The police station next door is at Brownwood next to the Barnstorm Theater.

Taltarzac725 08-01-2014 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 916780)
I did. I tried to post the link to this thread but it wouldn't allow me. If we all make a stink, maybe management will get a little steam to take care of this.

Thanks, Graciegirl. https://www.facebook.com/OldMillPlayhouse

I just added my voice too. I go there almost weekly and have since King Kong opened around 12-14-2005. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0360717/

Bobcuse 08-01-2014 08:30 AM

It is particularly disturbing to me that the manager did nothing after being made aware of this problem. If one or more male patrons had confronted these obnoxious morons this could have gotten violent quickly. This manager should be replaced before someone gets hurt. I will join the others in registering my concern for this inaction.

justjim 08-01-2014 09:09 AM

The manager is not trained properly on how to handle this type of situation. It's his/her job to make sure a "proper" and safe environment is provided for patrons in his/her theatre.

So far they have been lucky---maybe not next time!

buggyone 08-01-2014 09:14 AM

Just curious - does the movie theater have a posted notice about no weapons being allowed?

We would not want to see a repeat of the shooting like in Wesley Chapel - and from previous threads there are large numbers of Villagers who carry their pistol whenever they go out in public.

Taltarzac725 08-01-2014 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 916819)
The manager is not trained properly on how to handle this type of situation. It's his/her job to make sure a "proper" and safe environment is provided for patrons in his/her theatre.

So far they have been lucky---maybe not next time!

I doubt if these Villages' theaters get a lot of problem patrons. Maybe, someone snoring too loudly, but not much else. I have probably been to these theaters now about 450 times and the audiences have been usually no problem at all. That's since we moved here in July of 2005. The Rialto was the only movie theater open yet, I believe but am not sure.

I never go to evening showings however so there may be more problem audience members then.

eremite06 08-01-2014 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 916471)
If the two younger people were very loud, drunk, and very disruptive, you should gave gone to the lobby and told the manager if they were not ejected that you would call 911 - and followed through on the action.

Asking for a refund AND wanting to stay is ridiculous. Either they were SO annoying that you had to leave or you stayed. You stayed and should not get anything.

You cannot eat the steak and then complain it was inedible. (Judge Judy 101)

If I was there, that is what I would have done. And my wife missed 40 minutes of the movie trying to get the mgr. to do something. Could you really concentrate on a movie after putting up with this hassle?

I don't like Judge Judy.

eremite06 08-01-2014 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 916822)
Just curious - does the movie theater have a posted notice about no weapons being allowed?

We would not want to see a repeat of the shooting like in Wesley Chapel - and from previous threads there are large numbers of Villagers who carry their pistol whenever they go out in public.

Usually my BIL and me are in attendance with our wives. He's always armed being FHP. I don't carry because I know he does.

Barefoot 08-01-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blyarbrough (Post 916470)
How does a young person get in without a Village ID?????

The Town Squares are open to the public, as are the shops, restaurants, and movie theaters.
Roads are public and not owned or maintained by The Villages.
For those who thought we were buying in a Bubble, it's not true.
But for the most part, we are lucky to enjoy a very safe environment.

steamdogman 08-01-2014 03:05 PM

fortunately, these are probably rare incidents here but I think Management on high should address future problems before they occur. Perhaps a training session for he employees on how to handle this type of situation if it occurs again.


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