![]() |
Over 100,000 people in Chicago are dealing Heroin.
On NBC News tonight was this segment, I haven't seen the others but this alone was shocking to me, who considers drugs to be the largest of society's problems.
How Heroin Flows Over the Border and Into Suburbia - NBC News Highway 290 going through Chicago is called the Heroin Highway. It is manufactured in Mexico, and it is distributed from El Paso. We are losing more and more young people to this addiction. Why can't we stop the cartels??? There aren't enough jails to hold them. |
Heroin addiction in the suburbs of Chicago has become a much larger problem than it was 10 years ago. Very sad.
|
Quote:
"HOW MEXICO’S CARTELS ARE BEHIND THE BORDER KID CRISIS" How Mexico "Ranchers along the Texas border with Mexico are in fear for their lives and the lives of their families. The Mexican drug cartels are taking over the border." TX Border Rancher: Cartels Are Taking Over Open US Border – Politicians Are Lying (Video) | The Gateway Pundit Inevitable if you do not enforce the law on our borders |
The article said that there are 669,000 heroin users in the U.S. and one city alone has 100,000 gang members making a living off them. Add other cities into the mix and that is one labor intensive business.
|
Quote:
"Most of the heroin bound for Chicago crosses the border in the El Paso area, Riley said, and is then placed into the hands of local gang members for distribution. “In Chicago, we’ve got 100,000 documented street gang members who largely make their living putting Mexican cartel heroin on the street.” |
the recent effort to change laws so that drug pushing is a "victimless crime" and should receive lighter sentences is just another example of our twisted system. on the contrary, i think it should be considered on a parr with murder for all the lives it ruins, and the toughest sentences should keep these people off the streets forever. the film We Ride to DC shows how the drugs flow in despite all the technology we have at the border. some powerful group obviously does not want the border secured!
|
Quote:
"The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, known as SAMHSA, reports a steady increase in heroin abuse nationwide, with an estimated 669,000 American users in 2012." A section of the 290 corridor runs through the west side of Chicago which is a haven for gang bangers. I'm not sure about the 100,000 figure. That could be as high as the users number low. |
Chicago had 532 murdered in 2012. Over July 4, 2014 weekend 82 were shot and 14 killed in Chicago. Unbelievable statistics.
Heroin wars on the streets of Chicago had a lot to do with the shootings. 100,000 gang members fighting for control. And we thought Capone era was bad---today's street gangs make Big Al look like a Disney character. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
A stoner and junkie population is easier to control. Many want it this way--controlled dependents.
"Independence" is not desirable to this crowd. "It’s not exactly free pot for all, but the Berkeley City Council voted unanimously Tuesday night to amend their medical marijuana ordinance to require that dispensaries give 2% of their weed to very low-income residents and the homeless without charge. Dispensaries must distribute 2% of the gross weight of all the marijuana they sell and it can’t be skunk weed. It has to be at least “the same quality on average” as what the paying customers get. That might be a tough one to regulate. It should be easier to determine who qualifies. For now, any individual making less than $32,000 a year or a family of four earning $46,000 qualifies. Councilmember Darryl Moore told CBS Newst, “The city council wants to make sure that low-income, homeless, indigent folks have access to their medical marijuana, their medicine. We think this is the responsible thing to do for those less fortunate in our community.” The council also expanded the number of dispensaries in the city from three to four and authorized the Planning Commission to consider what expanding to six licensed dispensaries would entail. Nearby San Francisco has dozens, Oakland has eight and Richman has three. But other communities in the area have none, including Walnut Creek, Concord and Moraga. While Berkeley is trying to open more dispensaries, the U.S. Attorney’s Office is striving mightily to close them. By Berkeley Medical Cannabis Commission member Charles Pappas’ count, the U.S. attorney has closed 11 dispensaries in San Francisco and threatened a lot more in the Bay Area. The state went after the Berkeley Patients Group (BPG), one of California’s largest dispensaries, in February 2011. The Board of Equalization (BoE) claimed that the group owed more than $6.4 million in back sales tax and interest for years 2004-2007. That figure grew to $7.5 million. The group, which started paying the sales tax in 2007, argued that it didn’t have to pony up because marijuana qualified as non-taxable medicine at a time when the laws were murky. They settled a year ago for $49,500. The drug laws are still murky. Marijuana is illegal under federal law. California voters legalized it in 1996 for medical use and authorized dispensaries in 2004. The U.S. Attorney’s office came after BPG in May 2012. The group was forced to move from its home of 12 years, which was 906 feet from a school (the requirement was 1,000 feet) and relocated to shabbier digs blocks away. They are expected to be back in court later this year, but in the meantime a spokesman told Al Jazeera that the group will continue its own 15-year-old policy of handing out marijuana to the needy. While Berkeley is gravitating toward so-called “weed welfare,” Congress is making noise about going in another direction. Representative Paul Gosar (R-Arizona) has introduced H.R. 4142, the “No Weed for Welfare Act.” It would prohibit marijuana from being bought by people using Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) or the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance (SNAP) programs. The latter is more commonly known as food stamps. His bill would add marijuana to the list of indulgences welfare recipients must avoid, including strip clubs, liquor and casinos. The legislation was introduced March 4 and, according to govtrack, it has 0% chance of being enacted." Controversies - Berkeley Approves |
In reference to Heroin trafficking, I always wondered why the Mexican Government never offered any help on their end- What do you guys think of this man's opinion?
Best Way to Prevent Illegal Immigration from Central America: Stop the Train in Mexico | RedState |
Quote:
Talk about a huge disconnect between intentions and results ... and speaking of the noble Europeans ... their drug problem will be gone in about 100 years when the Muslim birthrate and demographics takes care of that with the introduction of Sharia law but that's another thread |
Quote:
I don't think that would work. There is this little issue of addiction to Heroin. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
However, I wonder why the worrying is so selective. Many more people die each year from doctor prescribed drugs at hospitals and clinics etc.. Many deaths, for example, are due to prescription errors and drug mix-ups at hospitals. Some deaths may be due to patients making errors themselves. Legal drugs are the 3rd. leading cause of death. Adults are teaching kids by example that drugs are the answer to all our problems. |
A populace on drugs is not as likely to oppose increased government controls.
|
The depiction of heroin and cocaine users and dealers by the movie/television industry romanticizes rather than condemns such practices and speaks to how accustom this country has become to this scenario.
I am afraid that our laws need to deal more severely with violators because this is only going to worsen |
Quote:
Odd to me that the ones who continuously preach less government interference and fewer laws are saying just the opposite and are talking of an equal to Sharia law punishment for drug offenders. |
Quote:
No, obviously I am not in favor of Sharia law. My point is that, ironically enough, the “enlightened” Europeans who do not have the death penalty while allowing drug usage to spread, will one day end up living under Sharia. The bigger causal factors are the loss of their Christian faith and yuppie demographics. As I said, this is really a topic for a separate thread. So, back to the topic at hand. Some questions… 1. What would you do to reduce or eliminate drugs in the US? 2. Do you agree that illegal drugs have a devastating impact and ruin millions of lives, especially in the inner city? 3. Do you think it’s really “compassionate” to argue against the death penalty (ie for major drug dealers) as one means of actually eradicating the problem? |
Illegal drugs will not be taken seriously until all the movie stars, lawyers, and college graduates can kick the habit. :22yikes:Just like illegal's entering the country.:22yikes: Taking away the businessman cheap labor nothing will be done about border crossings. Who's businessmen?:$: who own land and need the labor to pick crops, who provides gardening/landscaping, who needs live in maid, who provides roofs repair, who need tables cleared, who needs construction day labor, and the who needs the illegal votes:censored: ECT... the list goes on, but nothing gets done.
|
Quote:
|
To THOSE against REALLY STIFF PUNISHMENT...
WHAT would you do?
I ask.. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?? Deport them? PUT them in a real prison where they can't get drugs? |
Quote:
Would you be comfortable in trading your basic freedoms for the almost perfect crime free nation in the world - Singapore? Of course, it is only 595 square miles but has over 5 million people - and almost all the people obey the letter of their very strict laws. Punishments range from heavy fines for misdemeanors to caning to stiff prison time to execution. No private gun ownership allowed. No drugs allowed. No spitting allowed. No eating durian fruit in public allowed. |
Quote:
Not too many break in your house stab you, steal things because of alcohol and tobacco..... Not that there aren't any, BUT Heroin addiction is a different bag of worms. Most people can stop drinking and smoking but not stop Heroin. AND if you can't work due to being high and thus have no money......the low cost of drugs would still compel people to steal and kill when they needed a fix. |
Legal drugs are NOT the third leading cause of death. This is 2010, much the same as now but this is a better way to show cause of death of all ages.
http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pd...oup_2010-a.pdf |
Quote:
You would have to do a separate search for deaths due to (legal) prescription drugs. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
Regarding Singapore … that’s actually a wonderful place to live. Have you ever been there? I remember back many years ago (early 1970s) I was a young Ensign on Shore Patrol duty with my Singapore military counterpart. We had the night shift. He made a claim … he said he could put a wallet with cash hanging out of it on the street, at night, under the light and no one would touch it. Having come from a big city USA I said “no way.” He did it and the wallet was still there in the morning. He explained to me ‘’’ here, in our country, people KNOW that if they break the law they will be punished.” It’s a parliamentary form of government, very wealthy and pretty much crime free. I could think of worse places to live. Come to think of it, Chicago comes to mind. |
Quote:
Prescription Drug Deaths Increase Dramatically - Scientific American I was surprised and SHOCKED to see that Oxycodone was the second most commonly used drug prescribed by physicians. http://www.livestrong.com/article/11...ription-drugs/ |
Quote:
|
There is no easy simple solution to our massive drug problem. If it was easy to do we would do it. Legalization has been tried in some countries and that hasn't helped either. We will never stop drugs entering the country until we attempt to stop the demand.
Meth is cheap and easy to make, so even if we could stop smuggling, we still have meth. Selling drugs is a cash cow that allows the user to make enough money to use drugs. In the inner city it's the lazy persons access to easy money. I believe that the root of the problems in some cases is the breakdown of the family structure. Single moms on welfare, unsupervised children, bad public schools, lack of opportunity, lack of jobs, filth on Tv, in rap music, trash on the web, and on the big screen. Where are the role models for our children? Our nation sets the bar lower every year and I wonder how rotten it will get in the future. My Dad always said wait and see the children raised by delinquents. |
Hope they all stay up there! You will never stop the drugs.
|
Quote:
|
There would still be incentive to commit crimes unless they were free. Addiction to Heroin kills morals, decency, bonds to family, addicted people would do ANYTHING to get that next fix....
And anyone we have ever taken on as a nation would be like a litter of kittens compared to the drug cartels. Do not underestimate them. They would do anything to get more of them into this country too. ANYTHING. |
100,000 overdoses works for me End of problem
|
Quote:
Sometimes we think along the same lines. |
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by
DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) -
vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.