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gerryann 09-10-2014 12:26 PM

Latest burglary just posted
 
A break-in in the Village of Fernandina is under investigation by the Sumter County Sheriff’s Office.
Forcible entry was made to a home in the 1100 block of Hollyhock Way between 4 and 9 p.m. Friday.
Once inside, thousands of dollars worth of jewelry was stolen, according to Lt. Nehemiah Wolfe of the sheriff’s office.
The sheriff’s office is seeking the public’s help in the investigation. Anyone with information is encouraged to call the sheriff’s annex at 689-4600.

rubicon 09-10-2014 12:35 PM

Before anyone gets excited I am not going to declare The Villages a high crime area unless and until there is a golf cart hijacking:D

villagetinker 09-10-2014 01:43 PM

Can you please clarify the statement below: it appears the whole system is free....
Our company uses the absolute best equipment available for residential security today. The basic system costs you nothing, the install is free, and we don't charge you any activation fees. Oh, and also we warranty the equipment for LIFE. Our techs are the best in the business, NICET and UL certified, and as such most of our customers get a discount on their home owners insurance.
What is your communication media, I am not interested in cell phone as it is somewhat iffy, I prefer a landline. Does your system handle external hardwired contacts? Do you have the capability for hardwired and / or radio controlled arm/disarm? Do you have the capability to remote monitor? Do you support video recording?

Trish Miller 09-10-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 936005)
Before anyone gets excited I am not going to declare The Villages a high crime area unless and until there is a golf cart hijacking:D

How can you make a joke out of this?
This is serious stuff here!!!

Papa Cuma 09-10-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936033)
This is just the tip of the iceberg. The villages is what most people would consider an "affluent" community with a high percentage of home owners not residing there during the day or even for multiple months at a time. I am partnered with Tom from the villages AV, and have been a contractor in the Villages for the last 3 years. Here is the MO:



Your homes are being scouted, every day, by these non local "contractors" they have figured out your habits, they know who and who is not secured, they can tell if you have a "do it yourself" alarm system, a professional system, or no system at all. The people without systems are the targets. The "do it yourself" security people are targets as well because of how easy that equipment is to defeat. I've done home security for over 10 years, from simple burglary systems to multi-million dollar CCTV, Burg, and fire suppression systems, i know what i'm talking about.



Our company uses the absolute best equipment available for residential security today. The basic system costs you nothing, the install is free, and we don't charge you any activation fees. Oh, and also we warranty the equipment for LIFE. Our techs are the best in the business, NICET and UL certified, and as such most of our customers get a discount on their home owners insurance.



I already have several customers in the villages, and they are all very happy with the custom designed systems we have offered them. You can control everything from your smart phone, or we can just give you a keyfob to make things easier if you don't want to go that route.



AND WE ARE LOCAL, i myself live off 44, 6 minutes from brownwood.



We have an A+ BBB and Angies list rating, that should tell you something about our company right there.



Don't leave your life safety to chance. You have worked your entire lives to get here, give yourself some peace of mind.



here are some links with videos on our company, our system, and actual reviews from our clients.







OUR System: [URL="http://vimeo.com/m/96072430"]



Our company overview: [URL=https://youtube.com/watch?v=0PRbI2HckP0"]



Some videos about our company and systems and some live testemonials:



[URL="https://youtube.com/user/GuardMeSecurity"]



I'm typing this from my Ipad so you might have to copy/paste the links.



Nathan Follis

GuardMe Security INC

720-412-8558


Why should I go with you rather than ADT for example ?

Papa Cuma 09-10-2014 02:05 PM

And who does the monitoring? That is most important.

NECHFalcon68 09-10-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936033)

The "do it yourself" security people are targets as well because of how easy that equipment is to defeat.

Help us understand how they are easy to defeat...especially the systems that use GSM/Cellphone technology.... and why your system is different...otherwise it would appear that your post is simply free advertising...

Miles42 09-10-2014 02:29 PM

Monitoring fees? Ball park figure.

graciegirl 09-10-2014 02:35 PM

When I read about a burglary, I really don't want to read a sales pitch.

I want to know how the people who broke in KNEW someone had thousands of dollars of jewelry. We don't. I know some people do but lots don't.

Who has been in the home that knew what to steal?

ditka41 09-10-2014 02:38 PM

IF there was a break-in, it's a sad commentary that "security providers" would jump on the situation and turn it into a commercial within a few minutes.

Shouldn't the real focus be on who did it, what the sheriff is doing about it, etc, rather than how somebody immediately wants to turn a profit because of it? Very weird!

graciegirl 09-10-2014 02:44 PM

ANd since it was between four and nine, how did the perp know when they would be gone? We keep a calendar on our fridge, many do. Who read it?


You can guard up..sure. But find the trash who did it. We had a rash of burglaries last fall and early this year and law enforcement caught 13 rascals and there was peace and quiet for awhile.... Now we have a similar one, in the very area that the first ones were. Are the same thugs out again?

Be careful who you hire. We don't have anyone to clean our house and I feel safer. Pool people? Grass cutters? They come and go.

NECHFalcon68 09-10-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936089)
Ever hear of a frequency jammer? If the GSM is jammed the central station will know about it but that is highly unlikely. DIY security systems run off 355mhz for their sensors. Jam the sensors they can't communicate with the panel, no communication no zone violation during an invasion. No one knows what happens until you get home. Our system would immediately detect a supervision loss, report to the station, you would be called. If you weren't home we would again attempt communication with our sensors. If supervision of multiple sensors were down we and there was no reason we would Dispatch. Also you aren't getting a discount on your homeowners insurance with DIY unless you are a licensed installer and use a UL listed panel.

Thanks for you explanation...and service.

The system I have detects a loss in supervision, too.

NYGUY 09-10-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936067)
We have a 5 Diamond UL listed government certified monitoring center....

What is the address of your monitoring center (I am guessing it is New Jersey)? I would like to have associates inspect it.

graciegirl 09-10-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936106)
We have multiple monitoring stations located all over the US. in order to be 5 diamond certified you have to have redundancy.


Nathan. You joined this forum Aug 30, about a week ago. When did you move here?

NYGUY 09-10-2014 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936106)
We have multiple monitoring stations located all over the US. in order to be 5 diamond certified you have to have redundancy.

That's good.....just the nearest address to The Villages will be enough then.

BobnBev 09-10-2014 03:10 PM

Nathan thank you for your very informative posts. I will be calling you.
Please don't pay any attention to the naysayers.

NYGUY 09-10-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936125)
The monitoring station is in Dallas Texas.

When I lived in Miami during Hurricane Andrew, the monitoring station was also in Dallas....they didn't know anything about no damn hurricane even though alarms were blasting.....so much for non-local monitoring!!

Flyinglady 09-10-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 936088)
When I read about a burglary, I really don't want to read a sales pitch.

I want to know how the people who broke in KNEW someone had thousands of dollars of jewelry. We don't. I know some people do but lots don't.

Who has been in the home that knew what to steal?

I agree, this thread is not about home security systems.

graciegirl 09-10-2014 03:43 PM

Here's the link. GuardMe Security » Monitored Home Security Alarms NJ

We could start another thread...maybe?

NoMoSno 09-10-2014 03:51 PM

Since no one knows anything about the burglary, other than it happened,
I appreciate the information Nathan is giving.
He is also a paying advertiser to TOTV, and has every right to respond to a thread, that relates to his business.
Thanks for your service!

graciegirl 09-10-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936157)
I'm confused as to what you are trying to accomplish with this post. Catch the perp or prevent it from happening again? are you a police officer? do you have leads? This wouldn't have happened if the customer had an alarm system, period.


Or was home.

jannekeb 09-10-2014 04:23 PM

I can speak from the experience of having had Nathan install my security system a few weeks ago. I can honestly say that I got totally personalized service-- including regular text messages afterwards to make sure everything was working well and that I was pleased with the service. When I decided I want a key fob for activation/deactivation, he personally made the arrangements to make sure I got that fob and he even offered to come over to show me how it worked if I needed help. I'm not sure you'd get that kind of personal service from a company like ADT.

gomoho 09-10-2014 04:31 PM

I don't question if Nathan does a good job or not, but I agree with Gracie that hijacking a thread about a burglary isn't the best way to introduce yourself. People would be more interested in the details of the crime rather than a sales pitch. We are pretty savvy on this site and if we need a system we will shop around and find the best one.

asianthree 09-10-2014 08:07 PM

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn: now back to our regular scheduled program..any news on the break in. Do we know how home was entered this time

ditka41 09-10-2014 08:50 PM

We understand the "intent to inform" (advertise). Candidly tossing out your estimate as to the percentage of Villagers not equipped with alarm systems would certainly draw the ire of many organization's headquarters, and not look good on a resume. How could anyone know the number of Villagers NOT buying something?

Villagers are not so dense as to believe the bad guys aren't reading these threads! If a questionable post helps encourage robberies, that is not a service to our community. Please think beyond potential dollars, and also consider the undesirable effects for both a vendor and their target market when making public statements.

ditka41 09-10-2014 09:34 PM

There is way too much chatter about the open gates, public roads, pool crashers, etc., but I don't recall any statements regarding the percentage homes that are not deemed to have adequate protection. When that statement comes from somebody "in the business", most criminals would believe it and only be encouraged.

Fortunately, there is a good percentage of armed, trained and certified citizens who can handle situations quite well if they are home. We must all be thoughtful and wise in making statements that can be used against us by creeps. Good luck to you and hopefully it's a learning experience.

buggyone 09-10-2014 09:53 PM

" Fortunately, there is a good percentage of armed, trained and certified citizens who can handle situations quite well if they are home. We must all be thoughtful and wise in making statements that can be used against us by creeps."

The report said the home was broken into during the period of 4 pm to 9 pm. No one in the neighborhood noticed anything suspicious? Several thousand dollars in jewelry?

I remember one poster on a thread some months ago state he was ready in case of a "home invasion". He answered the door with his loaded pistol behind his back every time the bell rang. Is he one of the armed, trained, and certified citizens or just a paranoid?:loco:

Don't forget that having a gun in a stressful situation is 100% different than shooting your gun on a target range.

Best defense is a home security system that has a very loud alarm horn inside and outside the house. As soon as the perimeter is breached, the alarm horn sounds at 85 dcb or louder inside and outside. No burglar is going to stay and look for anything while that is sounding. The police are also going to be arriving in less than 10 minutes.

Polar Bear 09-10-2014 09:59 PM

Latest burglary just posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 936156)
...He is also a paying advertiser to TOTV, and has every right to respond to a thread, that relates to his business...


Right to respond or not, his first post is a sales scare tactic, pure and simple.

Sophie11 09-10-2014 10:40 PM

When we go to bed at night we have our keys to our vehicle on the night stand and it there seems to be an intruder we will push the panic button on the key fob. Never had to use it but nice to know it is there. Our neighbors have been informed to call 911 if it should go off at any time.

Bubble Gum 09-11-2014 01:32 AM

It seems the word about this burglary didn't get out for approximately 4-5 days. Why did it take so long for it to become common knowledge? Very sad. It is a frightening experience to come home to but better than being there.

OBXNana 09-11-2014 05:33 AM

I wonder how one house out of thousands just happened to have that amount of expensive jewelry and was robbed. You have to wonder if someone working in the house knew the jewelry was there. It isn't right, but wonder if wearing expensive jewelry sets you up to be followed home and then robbed at a later time when the home owner wasn't home.

dirtbanker 09-11-2014 06:05 AM

Anyone remember car alarms?? It was not uncommon to hear an alarm going off when you exited a store. I never called the police when I heard the alarm going off, just assumed it was a "false alarm". Car alarms seem to be a thing of the past.

I can remember one of my neighbors had a home alarm, it would go off when nobody was home...never heard of a break in...did hear some complaints from the other neighbors though. The community instilled a fee for response to the alarm.

Oh, I am sure alarms have gotten better as time has gone by...but I doubt bells and whistles are going to identify the person that stole from you.

graciegirl 09-11-2014 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936161)
the system would have been armed in stay mode and the alarm would have sounded a 120DB siren and contacted the police. Never would have happened. home security is too much of a headache for a thief. these DIY systems however, just tell the crook you have valuables, and are a valid target.

How much is your peace of mind worth? i mean seriously.

Many of us have home security systems Nathan. I am sure yours is very good and you are a responsible person.

During the last group of robberies many of us had security systems installed and so we were not challenging you about security systems or the need for peace of mind.

Just concerned again that new low lifes were back and I wanted to talk about it. Some others did too.

Most of us lived a life of hard work and of not missing an opportunity to make an honest living so we respect that in anyone. I think that because you are new that you misinterpreted what some of us were saying. That is why I started a new thread so that you could continue to educate about the need for a home security system.

If we all have them, then the thieves will be slowed down. Unfortunately, not stopped. All outside wires to homes have been cut in the past, which triggered the alarm to the police, but gave the losers a few minutes.

I wish you well Nathan.

lynxville 09-11-2014 07:25 AM

I have had security systems for years, had a bad experience with ADT. The discount I got from home owners insurance was peanuts. I like the idea of a security system but $50 a month seems like a lot. I have enough checks to write out each month now.

Cedwards38 09-11-2014 07:30 AM

Wouldn't it be great if the VHA or the POA, or jointly could do some research on which home security company could provide the most efficient and effective service and then negotiate a deal with them to provide any Villages homeowner with a system at a group rate? The company would do well because it might translate into the installation of thousands of systems in this community. It would be a win-win-win-win for the associations, the service provider, the homeowners, and the community at large, and would send a strong message to the perps to go somewhere else because this community is protected.

Cedwards38 09-11-2014 02:20 PM

I currently use FrontPoint Security and I'm pretty happy with them.

tommy steam 09-11-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBXNana (Post 936473)
I wonder how one house out of thousands just happened to have that amount of expensive jewelry and was robbed. You have to wonder if someone working in the house knew the jewelry was there. It isn't right, but wonder if wearing expensive jewelry sets you up to be followed home and then robbed at a later time when the home owner wasn't home.

Makes me wonder also. We have people coming into our homes to clean them, wash windows, paint, deliver furniture, and any other jobs that have to be done. I am sure the police are working very hard on this , leaving no stone unturned. They will find you!

rubicon 09-11-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trish65 (Post 936051)
How can you make a joke out of this?
This is serious stuff here!!!

Trish: Given the high crime all around the country, it just isn't surprising to me that we have break-ins, especially given so many seasonal residents. Just look at Orlando area now that's a problem. I don't like it either but I don't know how anyone gets through this life without a sense of humor.

If criminals are casing out our homes I do not think anything will deter them from getting in. We have even had burglaries when residents have been home. Certainly we should make our homes as safe as possible but a determined burglar is just like a determined bird

We need more enforcement with more patrolling by police.

I keep nothing of value that criminals can pawn off money, jewelry, etc and mark my property so it can be easily identified. We are an active household and so someone is generally up and the lights on.

I opine other can decide

NIPAS K-9 09-11-2014 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuardMeNathan (Post 936052)
The basic system includes the panel, 3 door sensors and 1 motion detector. Additional sensors cost extra, because we have to pay extra for them, of course. but no matter what you get, the install and activation is free. You will have to pay monitoring, but that is relative to the system we design together. you can either pay higher monitoring and nothing for equipment or for the additional equipment and standard monitoring. Our systems communicate via GSM cell phone towers so no phone line is needed as well.

AHHHHHHHHH Monitoring, that's where the money is.

NIPAS K-9 09-11-2014 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophie11 (Post 936432)
When we go to bed at night we have our keys to our vehicle on the night stand and it there seems to be an intruder we will push the panic button on the key fob. Never had to use it but nice to know it is there. Our neighbors have been informed to call 911 if it should go off at any time.

Excellent idea, thanks for post


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