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xkeowner 09-15-2014 01:30 PM

Honest John's Whiskey and Provisions
 
Announced in today's Daily Sun as going into the old TGI Fridays, It will have a "Northern tavern feel." My limited and very dated experience with Northern taverns does not make this sound like a place I would want to patronize. I believe there are a few Northerners in the villages. Can some of them help manage my expectations please?

Bonny 09-15-2014 01:36 PM

I am so looking forward to this restaurant. Mike & Gina, owners of City Fire, have been in the restaurant business for many years as has Gina's family. I think this will be a great place !! I'm a northerner from Michigan. Can't wait for this restaurant to open. I'm excited. :pepper2:

rn1tv 09-15-2014 01:42 PM

Northern tavern atmosphere, to me, is appealing but the menu item they mention is fried chicken and waffles...that's southern where I come from! Would love to see a restaurant with good New England seafood...hope such items are part of their menu.

graciegirl 09-15-2014 01:42 PM

I LOVE the name. VEDDY WITTY!!

Northern is good. Was a northerner for a long time. Now I am a cracker?

gerryann 09-15-2014 01:47 PM

Yup Gracie, I think you're a cracker.....

Chi-Town 09-15-2014 02:00 PM

Atlantic Coast Management out of Winter Park is the owner. They also own City Fire among others. The trademark was just applied for on August 6th, so it doesn't have another location for comparison. As far as northern taverns go they usually have substantial comfort food and a warm atmosphere.

Bonny 09-15-2014 02:14 PM

There is a bar & grill in Detroit Michigan named Honest John's. No relation.

Bonny 09-15-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rn1tv (Post 938713)
Northern tavern atmosphere, to me, is appealing but the menu item they mention is fried chicken and waffles...that's southern where I come from! Would love to see a restaurant with good New England seafood...hope such items are part of their menu.

We were in San Diego California and they have chicken & waffles. Out friends ordered it and loved it. Here is the description. The restaurant was Hash House A Go Go.
Sage Fried Chicken stacked with our famous bacon waffle, hot maple caramel reduction and crowned with fried leeks

under55 09-15-2014 02:26 PM

Post upset people.

Bonny 09-15-2014 02:37 PM

This is a popular tavern in Royal Oak, Michigan. It was always busy and great food.
Dinner

Bogie Shooter 09-15-2014 03:30 PM

Let me get this straight.
Posters come on here and bitch that there are no new/different restaurants, just the same old thing.
Now there is going to be what appears a new and different venue. And posters come here and bitch that the menu is no good. And others bitch that its "not what I think a bar should be" or they don't have clam chowder.
I say wait and see. If it is not for you don't go there.................just don't come on here and bitch about it!

under55 09-15-2014 04:32 PM

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scrapple 09-15-2014 05:38 PM

I wonder if there will be a jar of pickled eggs on the bar. Or darts. Or shuffleboard? Think we can sit and play cards if we want to?
:beer3:

RErmer 09-15-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 938742)
This is a popular tavern in Royal Oak, Michigan. It was always busy and great food.
Dinner

That menu is awesome! Maybe the place here can borrow some ideas. If so, I would definitely eat there.

TNLAKEPANDA 09-15-2014 06:14 PM

At least they did not call it Honest Abe's

Mikeod 09-15-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 938777)
Let me get this straight.
Posters come on here and bitch that there are no new/different restaurants, just the same old thing.
Now there is going to be what appears a new and different venue. And posters come here and bitch that the menu is no good. And others bitch that its "not what I think a bar should be" or they don't have clam chowder.
I say wait and see. If it is not for you don't go there.................just don't come on here and bitch about it!

Yup!

Bonny 09-15-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 938777)
Let me get this straight.
Posters come on here and bitch that there are no new/different restaurants, just the same old thing.
Now there is going to be what appears a new and different venue. And posters come here and bitch that the menu is no good. And others bitch that its "not what I think a bar should be" or they don't have clam chowder.
I say wait and see. If it is not for you don't go there.................just don't come on here and bitch about it!

Yep, I agree. Everybody complains. It's the same restaurants in every square. I want something different ! Then something different is going in & the complaints begin when they have no clue what the menu is !!!

Bonny 09-15-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RErmer (Post 938839)
That menu is awesome! Maybe the place here can borrow some ideas. If so, I would definitely eat there.

I have seen the menu for the new place. It's great. Lots of good food on it. I'm very excited !!!

karostay 09-16-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scrapple (Post 938836)
I wonder if there will be a jar of pickled eggs on the bar. Or darts. Or shuffleboard? Think we can sit and play cards if we want to?
:beer3:

Don't forget pickled pigs feet :ho:

Ohiogirl 09-16-2014 09:22 AM

Can't wait to try it
 
We spend summers in Ohio, Columbus specifically, which is known nationally, believe it or not, as a "foodie" town. Tremendous number of good restaurants of all types. Due to partly, I think, a recent liquor law change, there are now an amazing number of what I would term "gastropubs." Casual restaurants where you can just go for a beer, glass of wine, or premium cocktail, or pair with appetizers, really good innovative salads, homemade soups or full meals.

Haven't found a bad one yet. Latest one we tried (last night) was called The Market at Italian Village. Combined craft beer or wine, cocktails, pizzas, salads, or full meals with a case of fantastic fresh and smoked meats (like prime steaks, some kind of smoked ham, etc. as well as upscale groceries like you find at Fresh Market.

Would be great if something like one of these would open in The Villages, but am looking forward to the TGIF replacement also. We do get really tired of the same old, same old in The Villages - eat out down there much less than we do up here.

Our favorites in TV are Bonefish Grill and World of Beer, looking forward to this one and also the new Tapas restaurant in Brownwood. Interested in the latest transformation at Havana also.

graciegirl 09-16-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scrapple (Post 938836)
I wonder if there will be a jar of pickled eggs on the bar. Or darts. Or shuffleboard? Think we can sit and play cards if we want to?
:beer3:


THAT sounds nice, but we may have to wait for the card playing until after high season. lol.

the square 09-16-2014 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 938777)
Let me get this straight.
Posters come on here and bitch that there are no new/different restaurants, just the same old thing.
Now there is going to be what appears a new and different venue. And posters come here and bitch that the menu is no good. And others bitch that its "not what I think a bar should be" or they don't have clam chowder.
I say wait and see. If it is not for you don't go there.................just don't come on here and bitch about it!

Bogie, My grandma used to say "some people would cry if they were hung with a new rope"
To me, happy is as happy does..

ahayward65 09-16-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 938704)
Announced in today's Daily Sun as going into the old TGI Fridays, It will have a "Northern tavern feel." My limited and very dated experience with Northern taverns does not make this sound like a place I would want to patronize. I believe there are a few Northerners in the villages. Can some of them help manage my expectations please?

How about letting it open before you form a negative opinion?

CFrance 09-16-2014 11:20 AM

xke, I guess you got your expectations managed!

I'm sure it will have great appeal to many and maybe none to some. Just have to wait and see. Or listen for Bonny to tell us how she likes it. She'll be one of the first ones there, our own TOTV restaurant reviewer.:coolsmiley:

Walter123 09-16-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scrapple (Post 938836)
I wonder if there will be a jar of pickled eggs on the bar. Or darts. Or shuffleboard? Think we can sit and play cards if we want to?
:beer3:

Or one of the bowling machines with the heavy puck and the pins that tilt up!

Chi-Town 09-16-2014 01:21 PM

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This is the tavern I used to go to in Long Grove IL, the Village Tavern. Very rustic and a throwback to a tavern/inn look. The place was always packed.

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rn1tv 09-16-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 938777)
Let me get this straight.
Posters come on here and bitch that there are no new/different restaurants, just the same old thing.
Now there is going to be what appears a new and different venue. And posters come here and bitch that the menu is no good. And others bitch that its "not what I think a bar should be" or they don't have clam chowder.
I say wait and see. If it is not for you don't go there.................just don't come on here and bitch about it!

Bogie Shooter, I believe your comment about the clam chowder refers to my post. I simply said that, with the northern tavern feel, it would be nice to see New England seafood on the menu. Not bitching, as you put it, just making a statement. I am extremely pleased to see a new restaurant in the area.:doh:

Bogie Shooter 09-16-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rn1tv (Post 939237)
Bogie Shooter, I believe your comment about the clam chowder refers to my post. I simply said that, with the northern tavern feel, it would be nice to see New England seafood on the menu. Not bitching, as you put it, just making a statement. I am extremely pleased to see a new restaurant in the area.:doh:

No comment.

Laurie2 09-16-2014 02:06 PM

This is good news. Not only is it something different as a restaurant, it also will be a nice addition to Sumter Landing.

I do not like seeing empty commercial space.

I wish them well.

goingtothevillages 09-16-2014 02:17 PM

Wouldn't it be nice if they had a huge outdoor covered bar - City Fire has done so well with theirs and since they are owned by the same people, maybe that's in the plans.

jimmemac 09-16-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 938742)
This is a popular tavern in Royal Oak, Michigan. It was always busy and great food.
Dinner

Are you saying this is what the menu will look like, since you have seen the menu, or are you just guessing?

asianthree 09-16-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 938704)
Announced in today's Daily Sun as going into the old TGI Fridays, It will have a "Northern tavern feel." My limited and very dated experience with Northern taverns does not make this sound like a place I would want to patronize. I believe there are a few Northerners in the villages. Can some of them help manage my expectations please?

Soon as it opens be happy to give you my thoughts. As for your expectations I think you can manage them on your own.

Bonny 09-17-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 939262)
Are you saying this is what the menu will look like, since you have seen the menu, or are you just guessing?

I only put that up for the OP as an example of tavern food.
He said "My limited and very dated experience with Northern taverns does not make this sound like a place I would want to patronize."
I thought this would give a better look at this type of restaurant.

Cedwards38 09-17-2014 07:15 AM

I'm not sure what "northern tavern" means either. Does that mean they keep the air conditioning set to the 30's? Will they put ice on the floor? When you order do they say "fuhgedaboudit?" Do they have special places where you "pawk your cah?"

OK, these are lame attempts at humor, but really, what distinguishes a northern tavern?

Bonny 09-17-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 939533)
I'm not sure what "northern tavern" means either. Does that mean they keep the air conditioning set to the 30's? Will they put ice on the floor? When you order do they say "fuhgedaboudit?" Do they have special places where you "pawk your cah?"

OK, these are lame attempts at humor, but really, what distinguishes a northern tavern?

I'm not sure. My guess is taverns are more popular in northern states or maybe different from southern states.
Mike from City Fire is from Ohio.

jimmemac 09-17-2014 07:38 AM

A tavern is a place of business where people gather to drink alcoholic beverages and be served food, and in some cases, where travelers receive lodging. Usually small rather quaint places with good food for a reasonable price-but that is just my experience coming from the north.


asianthree 09-17-2014 07:43 AM

So maybe whiskey will be involved and beef jerky as the provisions and you can trade them with pelts

TheVillageChicken 09-17-2014 08:26 AM

Theme restaurants rarely have great food.

zonerboy 09-17-2014 09:09 AM

I guess there's a difference between a "northern tavern" and a "northern bar". In my experience, northern bar=strong smell of cigarettes and stale beer with just a hint of vomit.
Glad it's going to be a "Tavern"!

Chi-Town 09-17-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 939587)
I guess there's a difference between a "northern tavern" and a "northern bar". In my experience, northern bar=strong smell of cigarettes and stale beer with just a hint of vomit.
Glad it's going to be a "Tavern"!

And dont forget the distinct odor of chemicals and urine as you headed to the restrooms.


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