Anti-Islamic adds coming to NYC transit system
 

Anti-Islamic adds will appear on 100 NYC buses and 2 subway entrances. This will happen in less than a week.

This is bold. There will be pictures of James Foley before he was beheaded, as he stood next to his executioner.

I think this should be big news but was only reported as a News Brief on the bottom of a back page in the Daily sun.

Has anyone heard any talk about it in the news?

My opinion of it? I think it's much needed to wake people up about the threat we face from terrorism.

What do you think?

If the beheadings themselves, the rhetoric shouted, the annihilation of other Muslim tribes isn't enough to scare people, I sincerely doubt that any ad will make a bit of difference.

I think NYC already had their wake up call on 9/11/2001.

But they've gone back to sleep, if you catch my drift.:cus:

Perhaps I should include the following: The ad campaign will supposedly tell the truth about Islam and Jihad that the mainstream media is ignoring.

Two subway entrances isn't a lot but who is paying for this?

Sometimes I feel some of those anti-Islamic ads are being run on TOTV. To generalize a whole religion, race or culture is to stigmatize or be inflammatory. Of course, America has a history of that whether its the Irish, Pollocks, WOPs , chinks, Japs, blacks or Jews.

Would that make a difference?

It's not just two subway entrances, it's 100 busses.

Yes, to me it does make a difference who is paying for it. It's not like are blanketing the city with coverage.

From what I understand, they are not going to generalize, they are going to be specific. This is going to be about terrorists who claim to be doing what they do in the name of religion.

The ads are paid for by the American Freedom Defense Initiative run by anti-Islam blogger Pamela Geller. She started doing it in response to anti-Isreal ads paid for by American Muslims for Palestine, run by Dr. Hatem Bazian, a University of California-Berkeley professor.

Then you will say it's political - thread closed! Can't we just discuss it on it's merits?

Thanks, I knew who it was but I didn't know why she started it.

I don't think this at all. I believe the vast majority of people on TOTV have nothing against Muslims except in the case where extremists threaten their country's and their people's safety. I think most are curious about the Muslim way of life and thinking. I believe most think extremists of any religion are people who cause division not the coming together in peace and hArmony. I think if a regular non violent Muslim lived next door they could easily be a good friend just like anyone else.

I would hope so, but some are very afraid.

I very much agree.

I think that several people are using red herring arguments.

We do need to be very afraid at this time of extreme Islamic groups.

Thank you, IMO this adds credence to the thing. Glad to see it's based on principle and not some group of chit stirrers.

Boy Howdy.

I have never said any topic was political or gone whining to get a thread closed.

Yes, let's discuss the merits, what are they? What if anything does this accomplish?

I have a feeling it is pronounced differently than it looks. Silly girl.

Just look at the title of this thread. It is not an accident, perhaps a Freudian slip. Anti-Islamic Not anti-ISIS or anti-al Queda, rather anti-Islamic. Ms. Geller is well known for her non-dispassionate views. She and others would like all the hundreds of millions of followers of Islam to be seen by Americans as our enemies.

Given the problems Europe is having with their great migration of Muslims and in particular Belgium where they are a majority and demanding Sharia Law. and given the destruction occurring in the Middle East and then given the problems states such as Minnesota are having with Muslims we need a national dialogue on this issue, a dialogue not a witch hunt.

One poster referenced Europeans immigrants coming to America using ethnic slurs which are totally unacceptable and so clearly we have to define what the term Muslim means in connection with our immigration policies. So I agree with the bus campaign and believe it ought to be extended to the start of a national campaign to contain the radical Muslim who would come here under the cover of the First Amendment. In every corner of our nation political correctness has harnessed our ability to have a realistic conversation, perhaps paralysis us is not such a strong term.

Citing, being civil, is one manner in which one may utilize to restrict free speech. Claims of race bigotry,etc can be used to one's advantage as a way to stifle dialogue.

From a broad point of view we have allowed far too many people into this country legally or illegally who do not share America's values We bragged of the great melting pot but it seems it has now diminished to a great smoldering pot and we need to correct it.

My daughter lives in the NYC area and once told me that when the Twin Towers came down there was dancing in the streets in the Muslim communities not far from this tragedy.

As an example when I lived in Minneapolis there were a number of families from the Middle East. My neighbors across the street were Egyptians their family were all well educated doctors etc. They shared the American dream and understood the necessity to embrace their new culture In that same city we were confronted by radical Somali who intentionally provoked local authorities. Those activist made it clear they hated America.

So the bus campaign gets my vote and I hope it begins a national conversation before we end up like Europe....

What exactly are you defending? When we were at war with the German State, Germans living here fell under suspicion. When we were at war with Japan, the same thing happened.

My German born grandfather had two American born sons who fought Hitler in Germany. He hated Hitler and was vocal about it. My uncle was witness to the atrocities against Jews and he never went to church again.

That is all I know. Shadows will be cast. That is how life is.

I has come to the fact that ISIS claiming to be Muslim is causing all Muslims to be generalized into being terrorists. Sorry but wouldn't trust any of them. Just my opinion. They are trying to destroy what all of us has worked hard for. That to is a fact. Ask any one from Detroit see what they say.

I live by the WORD of GOD as most Christians...
 

Do the muslims live what is in their book? Has anyone heard one say that they do not believe their book? All one has to do is google quran infidels to see why it bothers me. This is not hate speech as it is the truth.

You may want to check this statement regarding Belgium. 6% is pretty far from the majority.

http://www.muslimpopulation.com/Europe/

It makes the public more aware. Even the governor of N.Y. is coming on board saying, "It has been 13 years and you can get lulled into a false sense of security." I'm quoting from today's Daily Sun column - "New York's never-ending battle against terror threats"

The heading of the thread: Anti-Islamic ads coming to NYC transit system was copied from the article heading in the newspaper. Either the reporter or the editor could have come up with that heading. I'm just saying don't go by that alone because we don't know for sure who wrote it.

Actually, NYC has gone back to sleep IMHO. Mayor D disbanded the Anti Muslim CT group. I imagine the next wakeup call will be a much larger explosion. Too bad we seem to always have to learn it the hard way.

Here's an article with a little background on Pamela Geller, who is responsible for the ads. Form your own opinion.


To Fight Pam Geller, Join Our Comedy Jihad at the MTA - The Daily Beast

I am really not interested in a radical anti Muslim person. I am interested in radical Muslims who plotted an "imminent attack" on the United States. Did you hear what President Obama said ?????

:bigbow::bigbow:

I will say this again. If you don't stand against wrong. It will overtake you.

You would think we would have learned --- I am not changing the subject but-- was Vietnam a threat to us - were we endanger of being attacked -NO --why did we go there -- we did not like communism ? -- thousands of North Vietnam people died for what they believed in and thousands of Americans died trying to do what ?? ---sometimes i think wars are started and ended for economic reasons -- economy - oil - there are millions of African dying -- oh sorry -- no oil -- no American companies with interests there- where are all of the brave reporters - reporting on the ebola virus- too dangerous ??? Sorry just venting

I have not seen these so called "Anti-Islamic" ads.
But I will say this: facts are neither anti- nor pro- anything. The truth is simply the truth. The picture of James Foley with his executioner is real. The be headings actually happened.
Draw your own conclusions.

For once I agree with you. Especially the wars/economics issue.

Watching the Roosevelt series brought insight that I had not had before about war and the national economy..

I don't have the stomach for war, but they did, and we are still here. What would have happened if Hitler would have continued unopposed?

I think that this country will fail because of a lack of gumption and because we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, or pay the bills.

There is nothing wrong with paying the bills.

Wars are lost and won and fought because of things like oil. That is reality.

And staying in the black eonomically is something we must do to survive as a country.

Of course oil and energy is important. Let the pipeline come through and level the playing field.

For now. But what we should be doing is finding a viable alternative energy source and eliminate the playing field altogether.

I agree. We need to have the hot dogs ready so we don't starve and work hard for the roast beef.

Excellent metaphor, GG.